To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

[Whatdoyouthinktothis]

I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

I am glad you agree, the statistics are easy to find.

And if you are struggling with private education tax, there are state schools available.

That it’s a minority issue isn’t the only reason. I’ve said that at least 3 times now. That multiplies its lack of importance. But I don’t think it’s important that some people pay a tax because they’ve chosen a particular luxury version of education. I don’t care. It’s not important to me as an issue never mind how many it involved.
But this is a silly argument anyway. It’s a small number because only a small number coukd afford it in the first place. There is no scenario where a high percentage of people can afford independent education. It’s a hypothetical you are using to try to suggest I’m biased or uncaring or something when actually it’s just that I don’t find this issue important. You do. I get that. But I don’t.

What statistics am I looking for?

Yes you’re right, it’s worth noting that this education tax only applies to non tax payer funded children’s education options.

Well it’s 7% of children, what percentage of children wouldn’t be considered a small number? It’s pretty straight forward question. It’s a number

7% of school aged children. And how many times and ways can I say that isn’t the only reason I’m not interested. Why are you fixated on that? It is 7%. That’s a fact. So hypotheticals are irrelevant.

It's the same with the reluctance to add 'private' to their education tax.

You can fill a thread with it, going round in circles.

Because you keep saying it’s a minority issue and a small amount children, I just want to know at what percentage point of children affected by a policy it’s worth taking note. I don’t know why you’re struggling so much, it’s less than 1% for me.

I had no say in the name of the policy, I think most people would understand that 20% of 0 is 0.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-on-education-and-vocational-training-notice-70130

Talking about damage to kids, remember this?

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-school-catch-up-tsar-quits-after-wanting-billions-more-in-funding-for-pandemic-recovery-package-12323335

Here from the overview alone

Since 1 January 2025, all education services and vocational training provided by private schools in the UK for a charge have been subject to VAT at the standard rate of 20%. This also applies to boarding services provided by private schools.

I completely get what you’re saying, it’s obvious from that article that a children’s education tax was needed urgently.

Yes, it’s only on non tax payer funded children’s education and vocational training options. 20% of 0 is 0.

There isn’t a percentage because I’m not interested in hypotheticals.

Oh I know. I understand the mentality, as do the electorate judging by polls,

What mentality?
The fact is 7% of school chikdren go private. It’s a minority issue. It’s never going to be materially more than that, so banging on and on about ‘what if it was 10/20/50%’ is nonsense. We’d be in a totally different world if that was the case.

If it doesn’t bring in funding as in pp what’s the point of it anyway. Make some people feel good that dc have to leave friends and some schools close. Sounds like negatives.

You don’t have to keep trying to justify yourself , I understand why you can’t answer the question and your mentality.

To those bashing Reform, you don’t need to worry about Reform. You need to worry about what comes after Reform if Reform fail.

I’m not ‘justifying’ anything. That’s nonsense and you know it.
Again, what mentality? If you understand it so well, please explain it to me as I have absolutely no idea what you mean.

To clean up Reform's mess?

Teal is Reform's colour isn't it?

LOL of course you don’t. It’s ok, you don’t have to explain yourself anymore.

But you do, please. Saying something about ‘my mentality’ without describing what you mean is pretty unpleasant. Bit personal. I’d like an explanation.

forced to leave because their parents couldn't afford the fees or because the schools were poorly managed, falling numbers, fees rising + vat?

I know what a school is.

But incurring that cost is completely down to choice. There is a completely free alternative.

Withdrawn bursaries.