To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

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I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

As Campbell was only discussing the book with Rory Stewart it's clear you haven't read it. And you and the other PP are missing the point - jibes about AC are irrelevant to this discussion.

The book considers what might be the outcome of a Farage government who implements all they have promised and the inevitable chaos, wide spread protest and unrest that would ensue.

“The other pp” it still stands AC couldn’t see his own party’s demise and his role in it, his views aren’t that worthwhile.

I want migrants returned but for me that’s part of a ‘we are a small and far too overpopulated country’ thing rather than a ‘I want to return to the 1950s thing’, whereas
for many Reformers they’re inclined to the latter and this means not JUST stopping with migrants, but rolling back a lot of things that make our country civilised and we benefit from on a daily basis without even realising it.

Thanks for the book recommendation @Laughingravy. I’ve just ordered it.

Hmmm

There’s different approaches to making things better, then there’s not making anything better but using policy to target a group of children. It’s got nothing to do with Iran or making anything better for anyone, it’s purely a group of misfits who have individual grudges against a group of children and their parents.

It’s just one example of the worrying world view underlying the Labour Party of ideology and spite before practicality. They have to go, simple as that. When I read online comments from people supporting policies such as children’s education tax and warning not to vote for Reform, it’s another tick in the box for Reform.

Yes. It’s on,y 7% of families so not high up the priorit6 list. When you pushed a bit 8 realised that, at the moment, it wouldn’t be very high up however many families it was. I haven’t prejudged the families - for what? - I just think we have much more important issues to worry about currently. It’s irrelevant at both personal and national levels and would be however many it affected since they all have the option of an education that doesn’t attract VAT.

Yes very strange it was so high up the Governments priority list, it had to be implemented half way through the academic year at the worst possible time for the children because it was that urgent.

You’ve been clear 7% of families is too low for you to care, but my question is at what percentage of families would you begin to care? Just roughly…10, 20, 50%?
Or is it something about these particular families you don’t think is worth a thought about ?

It was in the manifesto, people can't claim they weren't told. Schools could have mitigated the VAT but they are businesses and people will pay, just like they paid for the yearly fees increase.

Private school education is a choice, a luxury.

I never thought about it like that, really convincing analysis. Now I’ve read your arguments, it’s actually amazing that taxing children’s education hasn’t caught on anywhere else really.

Brexit helped with VAT

You can access free education, it is called State School

I know you pay to get away from that but it is there if you need it.

Some more great analysis, I really think you should get yourself out door to door for Labour.

Asked and answered. Repeatedly.

IKR?

Even though, in the UK, a state school place costs approx GBP 7-8k per annum. Other countries provide a tax rebate…

Go figure.

Yoi could always take in some ironing

Nope not once has it been answered. Perhaps you could indulge me and just answer now in a clear way ? I wouldn’t want you to cone off as prejudice against a group of children.

Instead of educating children? Yes I think that’s worth exploring, I really don’t know why I ever questioned Labour’s logic previously. It’s clever stuff.

I care about 100% of children. Most people do.

Curious, given the damage inflicted on some children who have been forced to leave private education.

What damage?

Lovely, thanks for letting me know.

If it helps offset the VAT, it's worth comsidering?

You could go canvassing for Reform but I think that is volunteering

Or you could look back at what the previous government did with the education budget and the increasing gap between state and private.

Oh I see, to earn money to pay for education taxes. Great idea.

I thought it might be the Tories fault, you’re absolutely right

Once more because I can’t be bothered scrolling back.
The issue of VAT on independent school fees is of no importance to me, mostly because it’s a minority issue (understatement) but also because it’s really not important in the grand scheme of things. We have far, far more important issues to address.
I have no idea what you mean abput being prejudiced against groups of chikdren. I’ve taught in both state and independent schools. The kids are pretty much the same. I don’t dislike them, or their parents. It’s not envy or spite. I simply don’t think it’s an important issue. Ok?

No not really, the question was what percentage of children would mean it’s not a minority (or understatement of minority) issue? 10, 15%?