To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

[Whatdoyouthinktothis]

I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

I am quite content that the definition of ‘concentration camp’ or Konzentrationslager, to use its German origin, shares no similarity with Reform’s planned ‘detention centres’, or any ‘detention centre’ outlined by Labour, or others.

Hugely disrespectful and in poor taste, tbh.

Oh my life the parents pay the fees, that includes enough to cover the tax, the schools pay the tax.

The schools are subject to the vat tax, individuals do not pay vat.

Your ‘argument’ (if you can call it that) of just repeating that people should read the policy, which you seem to want to wilfully misrepresent is ridiculous.

Yes you are in a loop, because you also seem to be one of the very few people who cares, it’s not harmful, kids can go to state school.

I have no idea what Reform will be like but Labour has been terrible (as I predicted). They are clueless and have groups of people they don't like (farmers, anyone running a business, anyone successful who can stand on their feet, people who want to educate their children privately) and make up policies to punish them that actually end up costing the country more money (see NI increases, VAT on education etc). Most people don't realise how badly this country is doing, we are now poorer than the poorest US state and about 25th GDP per capita worth Poland about to overtake us so really need to get the economy going and stop wasting money. Reform will hopefully address that as at least have business people and people who have worked in the private sector involved unlike Labour.

The original term does. I am not comparing them to Nazi concentrations camps as I explained in my first post to you.

If you feel it is disrespectful, better not vote Reform or defend their detention centre policy

Again. We detain criminals in something called prisons don't we?

Did you vote for Labour who uses detention centres?

We do

Asylum seekers are not criminals.

Are you voting Reform?

They've entered the country illegally. They have no right to stay here. We can detain and remove.

I’m pretty obvious about who I’ll vote for on other threads.

But those who voted Labour backed a party who also promote and use detention centres.

For the last time
They were extermination camps.
The people taken to them believed they were going to a ‘concentration’ camp, which are settlements of people who are together for the sake of mass sustainment.

Is it?

Your defence of Reform would suggest otherwise

I got bored wading through the VAT on children's education spat and likewise the centre vs camp debate. So apologies if anyone has flagged this up earlier.
On the Rest is Politics podcast Alistair Campbell mentioned a new book 'What if Reform Wins'. It's a scenario book that an experienced political journalist has written. It's based around interviews and research with both politicians, commentators and academics and plenty of Reform's proclamations. Presented as a diary it takes the read through the day to day machinations of Farage as PM. And as Campbell said without giving away the end the book only covers a year and only needs to
We have a lot of problems here and I really don't see that Reform actually have any solutions. Oh and our local MP is 'Stupid' and even her party agree on that one.

You’ve got it wrong then. And I could say the same about your defence of Labour’s detention centres, as you voted for that.

Is Campbell planning on penning a sequel, titled ‘What happens if Labour remain in government’?

What detention centres do Labour use?

Are you talking about places where asylum seekers are housed instead of hotels?

You are wrong there too

What detention centres are Labour using?

Britain’s Labour government is pressing ahead with draconian attacks on asylum seekers.

New measures, sadistically targeting families and children, mark a significant escalation in Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood’s immigration regime, prompting widespread opposition from charities, policy groups, and refugee organisations.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/04/tqgh-m04.html

I assume this is sufficiently left wing for you.

I have already stated many times that I don't agree with Labour's immigration policies.

Do keep up

There's nothing wrong with detaining people who are here illegally in a detention centre (so they cannot abscond into the wider community).

Treat them humanely in the centre and then send them back to their country of origin.

Here

https://www.asylum-welcome.org/labour-campsfield/

Thank you.

So how do you perceive the differences, in practical/operational terms, between Labour’s current policy, and Reform’s manifesto?

What is the issue here? What you’re saying doesn’t even make any sense? How would a school pay tax on the education services it uses? It doesn’t use any. It provides education services, which it now has to collect 20% tax on the fees it charges the children.

The school is responsible for collecting the tax to pass to HMRC, it is paid for by the child (fee payer). Again it’s clearly described by HMRC in the education and vocational tax description at this link https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-on-education-and-vocational-training-notice-70130#overview

I’m beginning to understand how Labour mange to pull all their nonsense policies off.

And what if you cannot send them back to their country of origin because of non-refoulement?

Ignoring that is not illegal to claim asylum.

Would you happily welcome one into your home?