To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

[Whatdoyouthinktothis]

I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

They don't want to live there yes. But that doesn't mean that they are culturally compatible with the west and don't have backwards views.

Well, at least Labour are lifting 550k children out of poverty by 2030.

Not sure what that actually means but OK.

You've misunderstood my point which is you aren't a victim if you are one of the 7% who use private schools. Equally, it's certainly not 7% who can't afford the VAT, it's a much small percentage. This was in response to why people probably don't care either way.

Yes it looks like many think that.

No, I get that, thanks - some posters have deployed an argument against private schooling which would easily apply to private health, and yet they don’t mention it.

Note that PH is taxed as a BIK of course, if an employee benefit.

So if a few British women die or get SAed, it's okay and we should just accept it?

This sounds like a genuine post 🙄

Sigh… as many people have already responded I don’t really know why I’m bothering but seems you’re still stuck in a loop on this.

But yes, paid by the private education providers, if they’ve got the funds maybe they’ll pay the extra, I doubt many will do so yes they’ve passed on the increase to the parents/guardians who are paying the private school fees that are now subject to vat.

Individual parents aren’t receiving a personal vat bill for the increase, the providers are, how they fund that is up to them.

It’s not compulsory to send your kids to private school.

State funded education options are available, so if anyone doesn’t want to pay for private school they’ve always had that option.

In the grand scheme of things that will be of interest to voters this is impacting a very small % of the population.

They/you are of course entitled to vote on this issue but I’ve never irl even heard anyone mention it, only ever on MN is it even brought up.

‘But yes, paid by the private education providers’

OMG. No, it’s paid by the child or fee payer on* their *behalf. I may be stuck on a loop on this because there is such ignorance around this harmful policy. It is a tax on education and vocational training services provided specifically to children. There’s no ambiguity, that is who is paying this tax. Here is the link https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-on-education-and-vocational-training-notice-70130#overview
for the love of god please read it and have basic understanding before arguing one way or the other for it,.

It’s usually relative poverty, so if they push unemployment up by say 1 million people with 2 children each then that’s a reduction in relative poverty. It works even better when high tax payers leave the country on mass, huge reduction in relative poverty.

Benefits to feed kids 1&2 aren't enough. So they need more to feed kid 3.

I mean in theory X amount of children should now actually be out of poverty because of child benefit but do we actually feel that? Nope

Nah, you are still describing the detention centres Reform are promoting

And it will more bigger, greater crashes with much less acknowledgment of the people they are supposed to serve. Disasters on steroids.

If the UK votes them in then we deserve it.

I don’t think you mean concentration camps, I think you mean Hitler’s extermination camps. Two very different things.

Only one way to find out, we already know what Labour will continue to do.

@Whatdoyouthinktothis Any chance of contributing to your thread?

Absolutely.

If Reform will be as terrible as some posters predict, and they are voted in - what does that say about Labour?

No, absolutely not.

Is it possible that you have made another error?

Nothing wrong with humanely detaining illegal migrants. ICE in the states has had detention facilities for years.

Given how stupid the British public are, it wouldn’t be a surprise. People who vote Reform aren’t intelligent enough to have worked out they can say what they like but have never had to actually prove themselves.

I’m hoping they win a lot of councils and fuck them up badly.

Gotta admit, that sounds more applicable to the Greens…

No

You have given the description of detention camps aka concentration camps.

Maybe read your post again?

Concentration camps were inhumane and killed people.

It's not the same as detain illegal entrants pending removal to their country of origin.

Do you admire ICE in their current form? Alligator Alcatraz?

Killing protestors, arresting people withour due process?

Is that what you want in the UK?

That is what Reform seems to be basing their policies on.

Farage is a Trump fan.