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To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

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Whatdoyouthinktothis · 03/05/2026 10:37

I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

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JHound · 04/05/2026 16:15

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 16:14

A true Labour supporter.

I’m a Labour supporter?

This is news to me!!

Goldenbear · 04/05/2026 16:17

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 15:48

I want the Labour harmful policies reversed, I believe Reform will do so and think conservatives might help rein them in a bit on some policies. It’s my highest priority as a voter now that Labour are removed and most if not all of their policies are reversed.

I am asking specifically about why you want two parties in power that have inflicted the most damage on children via austerity and Brexit, within a generation? This is hard a far greater on child welfare, including educational investment and provisions for SEND than the private school VAT policy has- why is that ok?

cardibach · 04/05/2026 16:18

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 16:04

7% of families with school age children is almost 2 million people.
At what percentage of families or groups should we begin to care ? 10%?

If the country was otherwise a utopia I could get interested. As it is I think the greater good is better served by policies to do with workers and renters rights and with the NHS. a minority issue that does even impact everyone it affects negatively (many have just paid as they have the cash) isn’t going to shift my vote one way or t(e other at this point. I don’t disagree with the policy as I don’t think you should be able to buy educational privilege, but if it hadn’t been there it wouldn’t have changed my vote and if next time a party I agree with on bigger issues says they’ll rescind it it won’t stop me voting for them. It’s not a major issue.

Goldenbear · 04/05/2026 16:19

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 16:04

7% of families with school age children is almost 2 million people.
At what percentage of families or groups should we begin to care ? 10%?

But there is a state option, like most of us use.

EasternStandard · 04/05/2026 16:27

Goldenbear · 04/05/2026 16:19

But there is a state option, like most of us use.

VAT policy won’t help state schools. It’s a nonsense that will just damage some schooling for dc.

Hoanna · 04/05/2026 16:33

cardibach · 04/05/2026 15:20

I wouldn’t hold your breath. They aren’t keen on immigrants of any sort. They may start with asylum seekers but I doubt that’s where it’ll end. In fact they’ve already said they’ll remove Indefinite Leave to Remain.

I don't know. All in God's hands. I am just putting my opinion here. I am very pro-English and all that. If they come, my life won't be any different. I have absolutely the same life under Coservatives, Labour etc. Yes, COL was something but it was not just us...so all in all, whoever comes, I don't care. But if people vote Green, that will be on them. I got my own morals and all that, will be fine. But imagine the millions ruined families with prostitution and drugs legalised

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 16:34

JHound · 04/05/2026 16:15

The VAT is on the fees but it is up to the school how they wish to manage that (via a direct pass on or restructuring the fees charged or a combination of both. Like with any provider of goods and services.)

Yes with the service in question being children’s education.

Goldenbear · 04/05/2026 16:35

EasternStandard · 04/05/2026 16:27

VAT policy won’t help state schools. It’s a nonsense that will just damage some schooling for dc.

That's not the point though the value or lack of value of the policy doesn't mean there isn't a state option for the 7%, there isn't no option and it is one that most of us have no choice about.

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 16:35

Goldenbear · 04/05/2026 16:19

But there is a state option, like most of us use.

That’s is true, my view is the more children’s education options the better ..not fewer.

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 16:37

cardibach · 04/05/2026 16:18

If the country was otherwise a utopia I could get interested. As it is I think the greater good is better served by policies to do with workers and renters rights and with the NHS. a minority issue that does even impact everyone it affects negatively (many have just paid as they have the cash) isn’t going to shift my vote one way or t(e other at this point. I don’t disagree with the policy as I don’t think you should be able to buy educational privilege, but if it hadn’t been there it wouldn’t have changed my vote and if next time a party I agree with on bigger issues says they’ll rescind it it won’t stop me voting for them. It’s not a major issue.

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So 12% of families?

cardibach · 04/05/2026 16:46

Hoanna · 04/05/2026 16:33

I don't know. All in God's hands. I am just putting my opinion here. I am very pro-English and all that. If they come, my life won't be any different. I have absolutely the same life under Coservatives, Labour etc. Yes, COL was something but it was not just us...so all in all, whoever comes, I don't care. But if people vote Green, that will be on them. I got my own morals and all that, will be fine. But imagine the millions ruined families with prostitution and drugs legalised

Your life will absolutely be different under Reform. As it is post Brexit. And the government will be for the U.K., not England.

Hallowedturf · 04/05/2026 16:46

cardibach · 04/05/2026 15:02

No. I was responding to you saying I’d assumed you supported reform or their immigration policies. Since immigration was the topic of the discussion I thought it was pretty obvious that was the bit I was answering about.
Though I don’t support any of Reform’s policies (not that most are policies so much as wish statements and soundbites) so it’s certainly possible to have a global response.

OK, I would recommend not making assumptions concerning posters perceived voting habits.

It’s entirely possible to support entire policies, or elements, without necessarily supporting or voting for that party.

cardibach · 04/05/2026 16:47

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 16:37

So 12% of families?

Eh? Where do you get 12% from? And 12% of families what?

Hoanna · 04/05/2026 16:47

cardibach · 04/05/2026 16:46

Your life will absolutely be different under Reform. As it is post Brexit. And the government will be for the U.K., not England.

It has never been different in the 20 years I have been here so far.

Hallowedturf · 04/05/2026 16:47

Goldenbear · 04/05/2026 16:19

But there is a state option, like most of us use.

How would you like to see private health care treated?

cardibach · 04/05/2026 16:48

Hallowedturf · 04/05/2026 16:46

OK, I would recommend not making assumptions concerning posters perceived voting habits.

It’s entirely possible to support entire policies, or elements, without necessarily supporting or voting for that party.

Do you support Reform’s immigration policy or not then? (Not that it’s a policy. More of a soundbite).

cardibach · 04/05/2026 16:48

Hoanna · 04/05/2026 16:47

It has never been different in the 20 years I have been here so far.

That’s simply not true. Brexit changed a lot of things for the worse.

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 16:49

Goldenbear · 04/05/2026 16:17

I am asking specifically about why you want two parties in power that have inflicted the most damage on children via austerity and Brexit, within a generation? This is hard a far greater on child welfare, including educational investment and provisions for SEND than the private school VAT policy has- why is that ok?

I don’t know about okay, but it’s sensible because reversing harmful labour policies will improve the country. Before you even get to the unemployment or breaking the social contract with tax payers, allowing a government that has introduced such things as a children education tax remain in government is unthinkable to me.

Hallowedturf · 04/05/2026 16:49

cardibach · 04/05/2026 16:48

Do you support Reform’s immigration policy or not then? (Not that it’s a policy. More of a soundbite).

Let me put it this way.

I support a more robust immigration policy.

Note Mahmood’s policy reforms and rhetoric - why do you suppose this is?

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 16:52

cardibach · 04/05/2026 16:47

Eh? Where do you get 12% from? And 12% of families what?

What percentage of families a policy affects before it should matter, 7% is too low as you’ve said but would 12% deserve some thought?

ilovesooty · 04/05/2026 16:52

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 15:22

Some people don’t just vote on what affects them, they look at how policies affect others and for the greater good. Lots of people are quite against policies designed to be cruel to children,

I don't just vote on what affects me either. I'm concerned about addressing child poverty which I imagine affects more children than VAT on private school fees.

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 16:54

ilovesooty · 04/05/2026 16:52

I don't just vote on what affects me either. I'm concerned about addressing child poverty which I imagine affects more children than VAT on private school fees.

Are the two mutually exclusive?

frozendaisy · 04/05/2026 16:56

Reform will spend all their time infighting, sacking people, accepting dodgy donations, rolling out policies which will tank the economy attempting to buy votes, or accept hefty donations. Contracts for donors, public service strikes left right and centre.

It will be car crash after car crash.

Think partygate on loop.

It will be led by greedy donkeys.

But a few people will cheer when they can smoke again in pubs and be openly racist and sexist and sack pregnant women.

So much damage can be done in 5 years.

But it will only be 5 years if it happens.

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 17:01

frozendaisy · 04/05/2026 16:56

Reform will spend all their time infighting, sacking people, accepting dodgy donations, rolling out policies which will tank the economy attempting to buy votes, or accept hefty donations. Contracts for donors, public service strikes left right and centre.

It will be car crash after car crash.

Think partygate on loop.

It will be led by greedy donkeys.

But a few people will cheer when they can smoke again in pubs and be openly racist and sexist and sack pregnant women.

So much damage can be done in 5 years.

But it will only be 5 years if it happens.

That has described the last two years of Labour perfectly.

Hallowedturf · 04/05/2026 17:02

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 17:01

That has described the last two years of Labour perfectly.

You beat me to it….