To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

[Whatdoyouthinktothis]

I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

It seems to me you make excuses and accuse others of cynicism.

What excuses? That the majority of asylum seekers do not commit crimes against women and girls?

We can. Just say. No you can't come and that's it. The gov exists to protect its citizens first.

You understand asylum seekers are leaving because they disagree with the regimes in those countries? They aren’t all woman haters.

Any on these threads, take your pick.

Exactly.

A few weeks ago there were threads about young men being executed by the IRGC. Should they not be allowed to seek refuge?

Trust me from past experience, it’s never up for discussion with HMRC. If you think it’s misleading then take it up with them, I think they’re pretty clear though when they say it’s an education and vocational training tax on people aged between 5 and 18 . Good luck, let me know how you get on.

I thought you were better than that.

Will you vote for Reform's immigration policies? Mass deportation and detention centres?

And I thought you were better than this.

You are using women and girls’ safety as a political tool. That upsets me. You are suddenly upset about dangers in the channel but you don’t want to enact anything that would make it less likely women and children would be there. You have probably (assumption, apologies if I’m wrong on this but others with your views have) wondered why it’s mostly young men in the boats.
Yes, some asylum seekers commit crimes, some of which are against women and girls. Nobody is excusing that or deprioritising women or any of the things you suggest. It’s wrong. But it’s not a reason to deny help to vulnerable people. The international community has a responsibility and we have a part to play in that.

Most asylum seekers I see at our local hotel seem to avoid staying out of trouble. Some get illegal work as delivery drivers. You see them occasionally in the local park or shops and sometimes they play football with their families. I can’t deny them enjoying a semblance of a life.

What about all the crime committed daily by people who are not immigrants? Aware that you are being manipulated by the media OP?

Have a look at some of the paedophile hunting sites you will be horrified at what is going on with home grown men and men who have landed on these shores one way or another !

Most people don’t give a stuff about VAT on school fees. Doesn’t affect them. Never will. Won’t sway their vote in either direction.

I feel the same. The posts that come back with what you do upset me. You are dismissing women and girls.

I feel slightly heartened that a recent thread had 96% agreeing on a similar issue. At least on a female dominated forum many can see the issue without these accusations.

If you’re fleeing from a country which is intolerable as an asylum seeker then of course you should come to the nearest safe country.

I wouldn’t hold your breath. They aren’t keen on immigrants of any sort. They may start with asylum seekers but I doubt that’s where it’ll end. In fact they’ve already said they’ll remove Indefinite Leave to Remain.

Every European country has private schools, even Finland which is the one everyone says doesn’t for some reason. Almost half of European countries offer tax incentives to encourage children to go to independent schools..thus reducing state financial pressure.
You see being sensible rather ideological has better outcomes.

Show me an excuse I’ve made.
I’ve said all crime is a tragedy.
I’ve said men are the risk.
I’ve said the law should protect women (and children, and men).
I’ve said s9me asylum seekers (as with any group) will be dangerous.

At private school.

Not all children of that age.

Misinformation

Why are you pushing misinformation? What's wrong with being accurate?

Hence including and other stuff. Just conned generally.

I wouldn’t be happy living somewhere that wouldn’t help vulnerable people I’m afraid. It would shame me.

Some people don’t just vote on what affects them, they look at how policies affect others and for the greater good. Lots of people are quite against policies designed to be cruel to children,

It’s a direct link to HMRC, I don’t know what you expect me to do about this?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-on-education-and-vocational-training-notice-70130

I am not dismissing women and girls. Show me something I’ve said which you believe dismisses women and girls, or VAWAG.