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To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

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Whatdoyouthinktothis · 03/05/2026 10:37

I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

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TopPocketFind · 04/05/2026 14:28

Private schools are a privilege, a choice and not accessible to the majority of UK children.

Uhdf · 04/05/2026 14:29

As of May 2026, the revenue raised from VAT on private school fees accounts for approximately 0.13% of the total UK government budget for the 2025/26 financial year.

Goldenbear · 04/05/2026 14:31

Uhdf · 04/05/2026 14:17

Fixing the UK economy will take 10+ years of a strong vision, investment, changing of planning laws and genuine investment into public services. Austerity has hurt the economy. You can't fix it all in one term, especially with political factors in play.

Had we done Keynesian stimulus before cutting post 2010-GE we'd have been in a better shape.

I agree.

Why are people remembering the austerity years of the Conservatives as those halcyon days!

Even worse, misremembering the Brexit campaign and Farage's UKIP campaign and the Boris bus!

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 14:33

randomchap · 04/05/2026 14:28

No, a difference in the description, one is accurate and one inaccurate. Why are you against accuracy in debate?

Can you explain? Private education means non state funded education, if you pay a fee for children’s education then you pay 20% tax on it. 20% on 0 is 0. The policy itself is called the ‘education and vocational training’ vat notice, maybe take it up with HMRC if the name make you uncomfortable.

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 14:36

Uhdf · 04/05/2026 14:29

As of May 2026, the revenue raised from VAT on private school fees accounts for approximately 0.13% of the total UK government budget for the 2025/26 financial year.

Is that before or after taking into account the shift to state school at £8.5k per pupil per year, direct and indirect job losses and investment.

TopPocketFind · 04/05/2026 14:38

Uhdf · 04/05/2026 14:29

As of May 2026, the revenue raised from VAT on private school fees accounts for approximately 0.13% of the total UK government budget for the 2025/26 financial year.

Raising approx £1.8b annually by 2029/30

This revenue supports a £1.7 billion increase to state school funding in 2026/27, raising the total core school budget to £67 billion

cardibach · 04/05/2026 14:40

Uhdf · 04/05/2026 14:23

A negative impact on crime. Unfortunately they attack women.

Something needs to change and we can't have them here anymore.

Violent crime is falling though. Immigration hasn’t caused a massive spike. All crime is bad and any group of people will contain wrong ‘uns, but I don’t think you can make that correlation.
‘Can’t have them here anymore’? Them who? Any asylum seekers? That’s just impossible (and undesirable anyway).

EasternStandard · 04/05/2026 14:42

cardibach · 04/05/2026 14:40

Violent crime is falling though. Immigration hasn’t caused a massive spike. All crime is bad and any group of people will contain wrong ‘uns, but I don’t think you can make that correlation.
‘Can’t have them here anymore’? Them who? Any asylum seekers? That’s just impossible (and undesirable anyway).

I’m not sure why women are this deprioritised.

cardibach · 04/05/2026 14:43

EasternStandard · 04/05/2026 14:27

Not really. Labour gaslight see one in one out and all the spin on being more humane when they’re not.

The Greens can’t answer a single question on a limit, and both berate anyone for pointing that out.

Edited

There’s no gaslighting about one in one out. The figures are easily available. Small actual numbers but with that and some other recent agreements we are seeing a drop in boat numbers. Like I said, I’m not really commenting on Greens.

TopPocketFind · 04/05/2026 14:43

Uhdf · 04/05/2026 14:23

A negative impact on crime. Unfortunately they attack women.

Something needs to change and we can't have them here anymore.

Do you include women and children in 'we can't have them here anymore'?

Do you think the majority of asylum seekers commit crimes?

cardibach · 04/05/2026 14:44

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 14:28

They’re not free, they are funded by tax payers.

The post says ‘accessible for free’. Honestly the ‘it’s not free it’s funded by tax payers’ line about welfare state institutions is utter nonsense. We all know we mean free at the point of use. Nobody thinks they are created by magic.

EasternStandard · 04/05/2026 14:44

cardibach · 04/05/2026 14:43

There’s no gaslighting about one in one out. The figures are easily available. Small actual numbers but with that and some other recent agreements we are seeing a drop in boat numbers. Like I said, I’m not really commenting on Greens.

Are you backing Labour’s asylum approach?

Uhdf · 04/05/2026 14:45

TopPocketFind · 04/05/2026 14:38

Raising approx £1.8b annually by 2029/30

This revenue supports a £1.7 billion increase to state school funding in 2026/27, raising the total core school budget to £67 billion

Ok?

randomchap · 04/05/2026 14:46

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 14:33

Can you explain? Private education means non state funded education, if you pay a fee for children’s education then you pay 20% tax on it. 20% on 0 is 0. The policy itself is called the ‘education and vocational training’ vat notice, maybe take it up with HMRC if the name make you uncomfortable.

The tax is on private education, a subset of education, it's not on education generally.

I fail to see how I can explain it clearer. Are you deliberately misunderstanding me?

TopPocketFind · 04/05/2026 14:47

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 14:28

They’re not free, they are funded by tax payers.

Accessible for free

Granted some ask for voluntary contributions that don't seem very voluntary.

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 14:47

TopPocketFind · 04/05/2026 14:38

Raising approx £1.8b annually by 2029/30

This revenue supports a £1.7 billion increase to state school funding in 2026/27, raising the total core school budget to £67 billion

I guess technically a net tax loss can ‘contribute’ to a 1.7 billion increase in state school funding. https://www.scis.org.uk/assets/Economic-Impact-of-SCIS-Schools-in-Scotland-2024-25.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

This argument always ends the same way, we all
know why some people support taxing children’s education. Why the flimsy excuses that make no sense? I just don’t know why people don’t have the guts to say why they support it, I for one would have more respect for Labour supporters if they were more honest. It’s just annoying when they pretend it’s for new teachers or whatever

https://www.scis.org.uk/assets/Economic-Impact-of-SCIS-Schools-in-Scotland-2024-25.pdf

cardibach · 04/05/2026 14:48

Winteriscoming80 · 04/05/2026 14:28

Reform might win the local elections this time but restore will win the GE,guaranteed

Absolutely not a chance. Reform do well because Farage is good at media and the media likes him. Not true of Restore. Plus do you know how many people with credible chance of being effective MPs need recruiting? Reform are finding it difficult even for local posts and those they do find are having to be ditched sharpish far too often. Or just resigning when they find work is involved. Another party fishing in the same pool makes it even harder. There’s credible evidence that some of the Reform council candidates are ‘paper candidates’ ie they don’t really exist/i tend to take up a post. They are there to make up numbers.

Uhdf · 04/05/2026 14:49

TopPocketFind · 04/05/2026 14:43

Do you include women and children in 'we can't have them here anymore'?

Do you think the majority of asylum seekers commit crimes?

Yes.

A lot of them certainly do.

TopPocketFind · 04/05/2026 14:50

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 14:47

I guess technically a net tax loss can ‘contribute’ to a 1.7 billion increase in state school funding. https://www.scis.org.uk/assets/Economic-Impact-of-SCIS-Schools-in-Scotland-2024-25.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com

This argument always ends the same way, we all
know why some people support taxing children’s education. Why the flimsy excuses that make no sense? I just don’t know why people don’t have the guts to say why they support it, I for one would have more respect for Labour supporters if they were more honest. It’s just annoying when they pretend it’s for new teachers or whatever

It was in Labour's manifesto and was hugely supported.

Children's education is not taxed, state schools are accessible for free

Why not admit you don't like it for personal reasons? Be honest about it.

cardibach · 04/05/2026 14:50

TopPocketFind · 04/05/2026 14:38

Raising approx £1.8b annually by 2029/30

This revenue supports a £1.7 billion increase to state school funding in 2026/27, raising the total core school budget to £67 billion

It’s interesting isn’t it? 0.13% of the budget is being pushed here as teeny tiny and insignificant. Refugees make up less than 1% of the population and they are a huge issue, impacting our way of life and making everyone unsafe.

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 14:52

randomchap · 04/05/2026 14:46

The tax is on private education, a subset of education, it's not on education generally.

I fail to see how I can explain it clearer. Are you deliberately misunderstanding me?

Like I say, the difference is the funding and 20% of 0 fee is 0. Take it up with HMRC if the name really gets to you, maybe they’ll rename it to posh girl tax or something. It will still be a tax on children’s education though.

cardibach · 04/05/2026 14:52

EasternStandard · 04/05/2026 14:42

I’m not sure why women are this deprioritised.

I’m not at all sure what you mean. Recognising that violent crime is falling isn’t deprioritising women. Unless you’ve got some evidence that violent crime against men has dropped off a cliff and many more crimes are being committed against women and all by asylum seekers, of course.

TopPocketFind · 04/05/2026 14:53

Uhdf · 04/05/2026 14:49

Yes.

A lot of them certainly do.

A lot? So not the majority. But you would deport them all regardless.

Children and women included.

cardibach · 04/05/2026 14:54

EasternStandard · 04/05/2026 14:44

Are you backing Labour’s asylum approach?

I’ve said repeatedly I don’t like all their asylum policies. I like the international agreement bits because as I’ve said, again repeatedly, I think the only solution is international agreement.
Are you backing Reform’s?

randomchap · 04/05/2026 14:55

IRodeIn · 04/05/2026 14:52

Like I say, the difference is the funding and 20% of 0 fee is 0. Take it up with HMRC if the name really gets to you, maybe they’ll rename it to posh girl tax or something. It will still be a tax on children’s education though.

Not a tax on children's education. A tax on private education.

It's not the name I have an issue with, it's the repeated misinformation.

Why are you repeating the lie? Why won't you describe it accurately?