To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

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I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

I have read it, it clearly states in the overview this tax is for private schools, which is a personal choice, it’s not a tax on all children’s education and I see no reason why businesses shouldn’t be taxed.

Since 1 January 2025, all education services and vocational training provided by private schools in the UK for a charge have been subject to VAT at the standard rate of 20%. This also applies to boarding services provided by private schools.

Pretty close to agreement but I think you’d have a managed system plus the more chaotic and risky crossings on top.

The only way you could ensure no one would try is to offer asylum to everyone who would want it and meets the criteria. Polanski won’t answer any questions on this but the issue will be the demand.

Either everyone who meets the criteria gets to do the managed system or you’ll limit it and get boats on top. So the number of people who would want to do it and who meet the criteria will be incredibly high in reality.

Sorry, but you cannot look at that number in isolation.

From the same ‘Full Fact’ link.

‘This definition means that progress towards the government’s target will not only depend on the number of new teachers joining the workforce, but also on the number leaving the workforce.’

Let’s have those numbers too, please.

Yes ,either boat crossings or back of lorries.

People are deperate to find refuge, I can't see that ever changing.

I find it sad that so many people demonise them for that and use them as scape goats. Another thing will never change.

And populist parties like Reform hone in on that sentiment. And now we are the point that detention camps and mass deportations are actively being promoted.

Edit: benefit of doubt given.

Detention camps is the term Reform UK is using.

For the benefit of doubt

We are FUCKED if they do.

I doubt very much any of us would be happy to go back to being routinely paid less than men.

And women were the majority victims of zero hour contracts.

No pay first day of illness etc.

Huge cuts to benefits & the NHS.

These are the things they ROUTINELY vote in favour of (check their voting records) and the things they hope to change.

Reform have got social media right. They're whipping up fear left, right and centre with blatant lies and dodgy stats and unfortunately their stance is attractive to the racist twunts amongst us, obviously.

That said, they are not proving to be competent council leaders and I 100% doubt their ability to lead the country.

They would have no more freedom to get other countries to accept illegals back than the current government. France are highly unlikely to want to play ball with Farage & Tice.

Unless you're happy to see your taxes go to flags and pictures of the king in school receptions and ICE style officers/detention centres then I very much doubt any of us would be better off under that absolute shower of shite.

OK, I have only seen ‘detention centres’ used by them, and others.

Where does it mention ‘camp’?

Grateful if you could please correct, thanks.

Even Reform’s manifesto uses ‘centre’.

Labour seem to use the same. The Labour government, as of mid-2026, is continuing the expansion of UK immigration detention facilities, including the reopening of sites like Campsfield House in Oxfordshire and Haslar in Hampshire. This policy aims to increase deportation rates, despite calls for reform from human rights groups.

Exactly, it’s a running programme - I’m not personally involved in it 😂 but saying it was only for GE clout isn’t true, based on what’s currently available it is happening and working towards an end of parliament target.

Unless they said what stats they’d announce as it goes along they don’t need to - much as I understand wanting to know, they’re not actually doing anything wrong here.

Yes any non state education for children. It is not a tax on private schools in anyway. You keep providing quotes to things that clearly state it’s a tax on children’s education and vocational training services whilst maintaining its a tax on schools. I think it’s worth taking the time to understand this policy before commenting on it, don’t rely on Labour soundbites.

This is just one policy where it’s imperative that Labour have to go, but you also have farmer taxes, employer taxes, pension taxes, landlord taxes, employee legislation, rental legislation and stealth income taxes. All of which have are ideological rather than practical. If you want to understand why people are voting reform then you have to understand that for some people it’s about reversing Labours malign damaging policies.

Okay, they use centres.

Those detention centres meet the definition of concentration camps. Guess I mixed the two up.

(Term in historical sense, not the Nazi era)

Heaven forbid! Surely the British public have a few more braincells than to vote in that bunch of complete scumbags!

You seem incapable of comprehending even the opening quote of the policy which clearly includes the words ‘private schools’, it’s for education providers that run as a business, which doesn’t effect over 90% of children.

If you chose to sets your children to private school, you pay tax like you would for any business service.

3. Education providers
3.1 Educational institutions that are in business
These establishments require payment for the education they provide, so their education is a business activity:

• private schools, including non-maintained special schools
• universities
• commercial providers teaching English as a foreign language

In November last year, in response to a Parliamentary question by Lord Lexden, Baroness Smith of Malvern, the education minister, refused to say how many additional teachers had been employed in the state sector.

Lord Lexden had asked: “What is the total sum raised so far by the introduction of VAT on independent school fees, and how many extra teachers have been recruited as a result?”

Baroness Smith’s answer, pointedly failed to address the second part of his question.

Starmer himself has meanwhile stated that, one of Labour’s housing pledges was possible “because” of VAT being levied on school fees.

The above is all in the public domain.

Thank you.

So what is your hallowed turf if you don't mind me asking?

I mind you asking, thanks.

Ok, just curious as a sports fan.

I have seen posts claiming that Labour have deported more people than last gov as if it’s a plus, and they’re using more detention centres.

Labour get positive spin on the same thing.

When an asylum claim is not granted, a government is right to deport those people.

Reform is not suggesting to only deport failed asylum seekers, they go beyond that.

What the actual fuck