To start to think reform will be voted in next time, and they will be running the country

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I’ve been a life long labour voter, but I’m starting to think reform will be elected next time
mainly just due to so many criminals that want to harm us being allowed in and allowed to stay
and uncontrolled immigration

I think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

what do you all think ?
Will reform be running the country soon ?
if they are are the capable of running things in other areas ?
if they take over how do you see that actually panning out ?

Not if you cannot deport people.

Unless you really think we should send Iranian women back to Iran and Aghan women to Afghanistan

Reform did once propose paying the Taliban and IRGC to take refugees back

Is there a reason you can post here but not type it into search?

The Rwanda scheme would have worked had it not been for the ECHR but that won’t be a problem under a reform government will it?

We do.

You are happy to see concentration camps in the UK, got it

They don’t have to come here illegally 🤷‍♀️

You only think you need to feed and house asylum seekers for years on end because that’s what the Tories enacted to allow them to blame everything on immigration. If you process efficiently it doesn’t need to be long at all. And for occasions when it takes a bit longer -letting them work would reduce the spend.

In most cases they do as there are no legal safe routes.

Braverman was once asked how a 16-year-old orphan from an "East African country" escaping a war zone with a sibling in the UK could get to the UK safely and legally.

She could not answer this question.

It was for a few hundred and was reciprocal - we’d agreed to take a similar number of the most vulnerable refugees from Rwanda. It wasn’t any kind of solution.

Labour are in now and their policies have made it even harder for women and girls. Almost impossible, plus higher risk hence the recent crush.

I’m not sure what you mean. Immigration is down. Boat crossings are down.

You have just started to think that?

My predictions are:

a) They will win
b) They will be a car crash
c) The people who voted for them will deny any accountability and blame Labour (and a smaller number - The Tories) for their decision.

It will be Brexit 2.0.

think they are going to win it on this reason alone
every single day there’s a news story usually more than one someone’s been raped by one of these criminals one the other day even said he didn’t understand what rape is and he thought rape was just sex

When was this? I also doubt the man genuinely thought that. I doubt rape is legal in his country (marital rape being the sole exception that is still legal in many places.)

It’s like a mantra. Did you miss the recent deaths in the Channel? Labour have ended family reunification therefore more women and girls will try by boat. They are overcrowded, they were crushed, it’s riskier due to Labour’s polices.

This is unfortunately true. All parts of the media are also complicit in this sadly. Not just the traditional parts you expect this from.

So you think it was wrong to stop family reunification?

Figures are difficult and complicated but some from Govt sites include
£4bn to 2029 to Serco and such for hotels
£5.6m a day for feeding and servicing illegal immigrants
£2bn for Afghan resettlement
Then I suppose add on Border Force, Prisons, Courts, education, NHS etc where does it stop and please don’t shoot the messenger and feel free to add or subtract it was just a brief Google and as the Govt doesn’t know exactly how many are here it’s a difficult one.

It’s the truth, not a mantra. FWIW I disagree with the policy against family reunification (and other policies too amazingly). It’s possible to think a party is the best option without agreeing with them on every point. And also to think a party would be a disaster bit see sense in some things they say - for eg I agree with Rupert Lowe that partisan policy making like the Reform ‘camps in Green areas’ is a gimmick that won’t work.
Incredible really. Why don’t you try it?

Excellent point and well done for highlighting it because not nearly enough people know and understand this. It is beyond frustrating that only a few journalists mentioned the fact that the Rwanda deal was reciprocal AND the Rwanda Government categorically stated that it would terminate the agreement if the UK exited from the ECHR. Therefore the Rwanda plan was purely performative and never a workable solution.

It is a disgrace that Suella Braverman wasn’t, and continues to not be, taken to task over this by the mainstream media.

They do because most legal routes are closed.

Labour have pretty much made asylum the preserve of men. Women and girls are suffering far more in many places. The whole system is so disastrously focused on granting male asylum a Sudanese woman and girl were crushed on an overcrowded boat.

The system needs to be redone so women and girls are prioritised both to get here and to benefit women here. There’s a good thread running at 96% atm on a similar question, on a female dominated forum only a few think the current system is ok.

I've said it before but what I will do if Reform wins is withdraw my resources as far as possible. I will stop working in the public sector and move to the charity sector. I will look for every opportunity to legally avoid tax . I will do what I should be doing anyway and avoid buying new, avoid any corporation that supports Reform (Amazon etc), shop local/grow my own. I will donate the savings to charities that matter to me.

My skills are marketable in Ireland, my husbands are highly sought after in Canada. But I don't want to leave the country.

How is this Labour? Their legislation came in in December 2025 and they're still working through a backlog.

So you are in favour of legal and safe routes.

I don't agree with Labour's immigration policies but both Reform and Conservatives are proposing to go at lot further.