Is it correct that the golders green attacker had earlier attacked a Muslim man?

[tofumad]

If so is it mental health and not anti semitism? That would be much better for the Jewish community, I think, not to have had an anti semitic attack. However I'm not sure of the facts. But if true it should be advertised to enhance feeling of safety in the community.

There’s already a thread on this that might be worth reading.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5524418-met-police-are-erasing-the-third-victim-of-the-golders-green-stabbing?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

When you say 'advertised' I presume you mean 'reported'. It has been. Many times.
Once again I refer the honourable member to the old saying that begins 'Better to remain silent and be thought a fool...'

I'm going to be using that a lot today.

Yes, it is true that he attacked a Muslim man first and it is also true that he had mental health problems.

I don't think that cancels out the fact that the attack was clearly antisemitic. The Muslim man was known to the attacker. The two Jewish victims were chosen at random because they were Jewish.

The fact that the guy had mental health problems doesn't mean that he was not heavily influenced by antisemitic rhetoric. It merely explains why he was more vulnerable to that rhetoric.

It’s interesting how many people online (on here, twitter, Bluesky etc) want to use the fact the attacker also stabbed a Muslim man to claim it can’t be seen as a terrorist attack, just a mental health breakdown. Which if he’d stabbed the man he knew then gone outside and randomly stabbed two people passing who happened to be Jewish, might be a reasonable explanation. But he travelled from South east London, passing multiple other people along the way, and only attacked again once he’d reached a predominately Jewish area the other side of London and found obviously Jewish victims.

It may be some time before we find out what his motivation for stabbing his first victim was, but it’s a pretty safe bet his motivation for stabbing the two strangers was because they were Jewish. If he just wanted to kill anyone random, why cross London to do it?

I don't feel in any way foolish, I asked a question. That's pretty harmless.

Thank you. I will go read that now

No of course it was antisemitic. He deliberately went to a Jewish area he'd no connection to, and attacked strangers because they were wearing Jewish identifying clothing.

The first one was his flatmate I believe. You can be a maniac who stabs your flatmate and an anti-Semite simultaneously.

Yes, this is true.

You could Google it, of course. Amazing thing, the internet.

@tofumadthe first stabbing was a domestic issue between two people who knew each and by itself would have been a minor news item at best, if at all. This has no impact on the national threat level.

The second and third stabbings were anti-Semitic terror attacks targeting Jews in a Jewish area and have caused the Uk to raise the national threat level to severe. I hope that distinction is clear to you.

The motivation for the attack matters. He specifically targeted a defined group of people for the second attack.

FFS 🤔💩

Asking a question is the reverse of foolish.

There's asking a question, and there's making an entire thread about a contentious issue of which there already multiple threads.

As PP pointed out, if the poster simply wanted to know if it was true that there was another victim it would have taken about ten seconds to google.

The Campaign Against AntiSemitism have reported that this man was known to them. he apparently had a strong record of going to vigils held for the hostages kidnapped by Hamas and verbally and physically attacking those who attended. He had been reported to the police on several occasions and had been referred to Prevent.

As others have said- we don't yet know what the motivation was for the attack on his room-mate. But the attack in Golders Green was purely about the fact the victims were Jewish and he was looking for Jewish people to harm and kill.

I presume for the hard of thinking, there were 2 victims that day, the flatmate and the terrorist.

These Jewish members of the public having the audacity to walk around in their own neighbourhood on the other hand, mere collateral damage for free free palestine

Yes, but I find that on a chat board you get a different kind of insight than googling.

I had no idea that there were other threads at the time I posted. And have been perfectly polite and open in my responses.

Also, I do think that someone who attacks an acquaintance/friend/family (I didn't know which) and then carries out another attack probably had a mental health issue. And that's a little different than straightforward racism, xenophobia, or anti semitism. In my view

Why?

Yes. And he had been released from a mental hospital a few days before.

Great, you've cracked the case! The police can stand down, no need for a trial, tofumad has decided it was a mental health issue so what are Jewish people even worried about?

Wow. I don't see the need for this response.

So you think it's nothing to do with anti semitism OP? Just m/h?

I do. You should read it again. And then again after that.