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HoiityToity · Yesterday 07:05

TheChicDreamer · Yesterday 07:01

I really hope the owners of this house don’t find this thread 😕. It’s one of the most judgemental and snobbish things I’ve read. And that’s quite a feat on Mumsnet.

Quite.

And it’s AI photos anyway, so it’s not even real. But posting a link to someone’s house and asking people what social class they come from is insane.

TheChicDreamer · Yesterday 07:08

HoiityToity · Yesterday 07:05

Quite.

And it’s AI photos anyway, so it’s not even real. But posting a link to someone’s house and asking people what social class they come from is insane.

Ah ok. Well I really hope it isn’t real. But there will be lots of people with that style of house and interior who probably feel quite shit now. I hope they are proud of what they’ve got and ignore because it is a lovely house.

ThisOldThang · Yesterday 07:12

IckyIck · Yesterday 00:16

Don't bother talking to me, I'm only a baronet.

Edited

And yet you're so brave just carrying on. That's the spirit - chin up and best foot forward.

ThatPeachPoet · Yesterday 07:15

It's your bog standard new build estate house. They're 10 a penny. They all look so similar in style and decor.

Every era had the them. The 90s new build estate houses all have the same look too.

It's neither middle class or working class.

ThisOldThang · Yesterday 07:15

TheChicDreamer · Yesterday 07:08

Ah ok. Well I really hope it isn’t real. But there will be lots of people with that style of house and interior who probably feel quite shit now. I hope they are proud of what they’ve got and ignore because it is a lovely house.

As the Italians say, when it comes to matters of personal taste, there are no right or wrongs.

billandtedsexcellentadventure · Yesterday 07:16

That is not middle class!

BiteSizedLife · Yesterday 07:16

Inburess · 30/04/2026 21:13

@canklesmctacotits yes that’s a good point!

Yeah I would say it is Middle-Middle

Upper-Middle
Middle-Middle
Lower-Middle

TheChicDreamer · Yesterday 07:21

ThisOldThang · Yesterday 07:15

As the Italians say, when it comes to matters of personal taste, there are no right or wrongs.

True. It’s not to my taste FWIW, but the sneery attitude on here is somewhat wrong.

wearemorethanourboots · Yesterday 07:26

This is such a weird question. We used to live in a similar Redrow, but I'd say us and most of our neighbours were working class people who happened to have done reasonably well for ourselves. Not sure having a big house can actually make you middle class?

Where we live now I would definitely say most of our neighbours are middle class - old houses, older cars, spaniels and labradors as pets, posh accents, pianos and shelves full of books. We bring down the tone a bit!

LostTheGoodScissors · Yesterday 07:38

This thread seems to set an unrealistically narrow standard for what counts as “middle class.” Obviously it’s more complex than one factor, but if a home is worth around £650,000, it’s hard to argue that doesn’t usually place someone somewhere in the middle-class bracket, unless it’s in a particularly deprived area or the person that owns it has other factors (job, background, behaviour etc) that excludes them.
I know people living in expensive homes who have worse decor, but they are definitely not working class. Reducing “middle class” to things like labradors, inherited wealth, or period properties is a stereotype.
If those are the criteria, then we’re basically saying the vast majority of Britain is working class, which doesn’t really hold up.

circusrunaways · Yesterday 07:41

This thread seems to set an unrealistically narrow standard for what counts as “middle class

Mns always conflates UMC with MC

Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 07:43

The fact that it’s £650k and has 4 bedrooms tells you the house is middle class. Inside is a different matter. The decor is working class.

Plum02 · Yesterday 07:46

Initially I was going to say no because that house would be well over £1m where I live (in Manchester, not the SE)! But after seeing the price then I’d say yes, it is a middle class house.

LaburnumAnagyroides · Yesterday 07:47

SixtySomething · Yesterday 00:11

Yes, but also, what is 'arguable aristocracy'? It sounds a bit flimsy to me. I only talk to solid aristocracy, the titled ones, dukes and that sort of thing. I don't think I could talk to someone who wanted to argue about whether they were aristocracy or not. What if it turned out they were just middle class after all? So ill-bred!

My mother and brothers are listed in the peerage. I am not because... girl from maternal line.

So, yes, arguable. I am no less 'aristocracy' than my brothers. I don't actually give a shit about it and only mentioned it in the context of snobbery about hot tubs.

paint101 · Yesterday 07:47

I wouldn’t think anything about the owner’s class, just think that they wanted / needed a big house and have taken the compromise of living in the middle of nowhere to achieve it.

circusrunaways · Yesterday 07:50

The decor is working class

what is middle class decor?

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/174009908#/?channel=RES_BUY

can't see a book here either!

asdbaybeeee · Yesterday 07:55

I’d say the top end of middle class. It’s lovely too.

BlackCatThinking · Yesterday 08:02

ItsJustMeMyself · Yesterday 05:39

I would think you overpaid substantially for that house if you pay asking price.

The house itself is fairly standard sized, IMO.

Are you for real? Or is your estate so large you don’t bother to leave it often as the drive to the gate takes James the chauffeur too long?

Anyone with eyes in their head can see that this is not an average size house. Upthread someone posted the square footage of this and by comparison the average square footage of a house in the UK. This is significantly bigger.

four bed detached like this or smaller used to be sold as ‘executive homes’ in the 80s. Executive meaning higher than average in terms of rooms, value etc.

what I will say about property in the UK is that there are a range of factors that can blur the relationship between class and who lives where/size of house. I work for a large multinational where very senior leaders on triple my salary live in smaller houses. It’s a mixture of things; they may be younger, they may have had numerous career moves meaning they rented and didn’t buy, they may have lost funds on properties they have moved round for work as relocation packages aren’t what they used to be. Meanwhile, quite junior staff might have had good inheritances, stayed in one area with more control
over when to make a move.

With property I always say that you can’t buy what isn’t there. I moved from a city with very old, housing stock to a house like this in a
village. City friends were staggered we could
afford something so large. We could afford it as homes like that are more common in the area I live and it drives the price down. Even where I live though, this is still a big house.

Lucia573 · Yesterday 08:08

No. It looks a bit bland and tasteless. No books, prints, proper paintings, inherited furniture, things from travels etc. Everything looks too new. But, it is a nice, spacious, house. Lovely to raise a family in, I should think. Why does the class of the vendors matter?

SixtySomething · Yesterday 08:10

LaburnumAnagyroides · Yesterday 07:47

My mother and brothers are listed in the peerage. I am not because... girl from maternal line.

So, yes, arguable. I am no less 'aristocracy' than my brothers. I don't actually give a shit about it and only mentioned it in the context of snobbery about hot tubs.

Well, I don’t think I would want to be introduced to you all the same. I don’t really do female lines , I find them a bit ordinary. I wouldn’t mind meeting some of your titled relations however, so would be obliged if you could just provide contact details and I’ll take it from there. I’ll say I’m a friend of yours. 🤣

SixtySomething · Yesterday 08:11

HoiityToity · Yesterday 07:05

Quite.

And it’s AI photos anyway, so it’s not even real. But posting a link to someone’s house and asking people what social class they come from is insane.

It’s also meaningless because the inside has been altered by AI

TeaBiscuitsNaptime · Yesterday 08:12

Not middle class to me. It's a decent size

bohemianwrapsody · Yesterday 08:13

pinck · Yesterday 01:54

My god, are you stupid or what?!? This home is obviously staged. No one selling a house leaves all their personal possessions out for strangers on the internet to dissect. The goal is a neutral, uncluttered space, not showcasing their hobbies for your approval. The absence of books doesn’t mean they don’t read — it means they understand how to market a property, which is more than can be said for this bonehead comment. You've clearly never sold a house before, or if you have and your realtor let you keep all your shit out then they clearly weren't very good at their job.

So when they uncluttered their house, did that involve replacing all their real plants with plastic ones? And taking down any interesting art or prints and replacing them with shit from the Range? Why didn't they unclutter the room with all the computer monitors and plastic crates?

I think usage of "realtor" rather than estate agent tells us all we need to know about who's stupid here. I imagine I've touched a nerve because you have no books in your house. Books aren't clutter and don't need to be removed for marketing photos 😂

LBFseBrom · Yesterday 08:13

Lucia573 · Yesterday 08:08

No. It looks a bit bland and tasteless. No books, prints, proper paintings, inherited furniture, things from travels etc. Everything looks too new. But, it is a nice, spacious, house. Lovely to raise a family in, I should think. Why does the class of the vendors matter?

Edited

Someone new could add those things, Lucia, I wouldn't be bothered about that if I wanted a house of that size. I could fill it with my books and bric a brac, no problem. It would become a mess in no time as well, knowing me, 'lived in'.

coyploytoyannoy · Yesterday 08:19

Inburess · 30/04/2026 21:29

I’m looking at a similar house (in a slightly different area) and I suppose wanted to know what people would think of me if I lived somewhere like that! I know it’s shallow!

Sounds like you lack in confidence? Are you competing with someone? Your sibling or a close friend? Why would anyone care what others think of your house? Just choose what you like.

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