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Allisnotlost1 · 01/05/2026 08:14

DrinkPupKitDrink · 01/05/2026 07:21

Alas you me and many others do not fit into these blinkered, botty posters' petty pre-conceptions. It's kind of bemusing.

What is not bemusing is that Zack Polanski stirred up racial tensions for political advantage. Of course it's not only Greens that will benefit from the divisive rhetoric he amplified but also Reform.

The leader of a main party is using populist and divisive communication strategies that do not promote peace and wellbeing for local communities but stir up hatred and spread harmful misinformation. All this on the back of the recent London terror attacks, which were basically misappropriated to further political ambitions. It's immoral and we need to all see it for what it is and talk about it in rl.

Please do consider getting actively involved in local politics even if for a short while, it's not for everyone but voting strategically can help keep Green and Reform away from actual power in our communities. I would be so displeased to see any Green or Reform politicians influencing life in my community.

It’s a shame that ZP decided to take this route, I was hoping that the popularity of the Greens would act as a course correct for the centre. Unfortunately that’s not been the case and he’s now making things worse. I am involved in local politics and it’s a weird battleground between reform and greens here!

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 01/05/2026 08:15

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but she said she's seen how discriminatory the NHS is in allowing Jewish communal organisations to have input while refusing to deal with black church pastors

Funnily enough, hospital staff tend to take the input from medically trained personnel more seriously than a church pastor when looking at patients.

When my GP sent DD to A & E, she called ahead and we went straight in. It’s mind blowing casually you smear the whole NHS as racist.

Another is Jewish only housing associations - funded with state money - that are legally allowed to prioritise Jews over non-Jewish in allocating housing:

It’s legal though. Is it only Jews and poor people you have a problem with receiving public funds? No other religious groups?

There are many other examples of Jewish communal assertiveness in London. One is the coronor's service. Essentially, Jewish people wanted bodies processed by the coronor more quickly as they wanted to bury them quickly for religious reasons.

Jews are not the only religion to benefit from this and are the far smaller group. You seem to only have an issue with Jews though. Why is that?

And there have been a number of unfortunate cases where Jewish communal leaders in London have punched down on other ethnic and religious minorities. About a decade ago

So now you are scrabbling around for ‘bad stuff Jews did’ and had to go back 10 years. Ok.

OrangeAxolotyl · 01/05/2026 08:19

Allisnotlost1 · 01/05/2026 08:14

It’s a shame that ZP decided to take this route, I was hoping that the popularity of the Greens would act as a course correct for the centre. Unfortunately that’s not been the case and he’s now making things worse. I am involved in local politics and it’s a weird battleground between reform and greens here!

I agree with you, it's a real shame that it's gone this way, I was hoping for something different for the Greens! I don't think ZP is evil, but he's taken a wrong turn.
It must be a strange time in local politics. It's probably quite febrile at times. Good luck with it, though 👍

OrangeAxolotyl · 01/05/2026 08:22

@CornishDaughteroftheDawn - you're doing well challenging that poster's points, your rebuttals are spot on, but I don't think they're going to pay attention. I think they're too much in a certain mindset.

Whatifitallgoesright · 01/05/2026 08:37

Mark Rowley has written to Zack Polanski

Dear Zack,
I was disappointed to have seen your recent post on X amplifying a post that Met officers were "repeatedly and violently kicking a mentally ill man in the head when he was already incapacitated by taser".
I am disappointed because it is this kind of inaccurate and misinformed commentary – with its associated casual disregard for the incredibly challenging and dangerous work police officers do to protect the public – that is contributing to the rising tensions we are seeing in society and undermines officer confidence to act.
It is entirely possible the author of the post you retweeted had direct experience from the scene, or has years of experience handling complex, violent situation. Yet I suspect the more likely scenario is that they another armchair critic, who thinks they could do the job, possibly more effectively than the brave officers who successfully detained that individual.
Those officers are nothing short of extraordinary. They were on the scene within a few minutes, and their actions undoubtedly prevented further injury and saved lives. As I said yesterday the officers confronted a dangerous man, they believed to be a terrorist, who refused to show his hands, who was violent, and who continued to pose a clear threat. They were not armed officers, and they feared he was concealing an explosive device.
Using only their training, equipment and a substantial level of bravery and courage, they detained him while he continued to try and attack and stab them. Without their efforts to stop him I dread to think what the outcome could have been.
Apprehending violent and dangerous criminals is a full contact and messy task which may appear shocking to observers with little experience of policing in the real world.
London’s Jewish communities are scared. They have experienced a series of targeted attacks on the community, and they expect out officers to act, protect them. That is exactly what our officers did yesterday. Your decision to criticise these officers, using your public profile and reach will have a chilling effect.
Officers need to know that when they act to protect Londoners decisively, they will be supported. Officers know they must be accountable for their use of force and there areprocesses for this to happen. Your use of your public profile to call their actions into question, hours after a terrorist incident is not the appropriate route.
Free speech is an important facet of a democratic society. We both agree on that. But against a backdrop of global instability and heightened tensions, the right approach in this situation is to show compassion, lower tensions and not inflame them further by amplifying more ‘us and them’ rhetoric.
We have significantly stepped up our activity across the capital in recent weeks, and in the hours and days following the attack in Golders Green three weeks ago we have seen communities come together to reject hatred and violence.
That solidarity matters, and at this moment we need politicians and community leaders to be at the forefront of it, not only condemning the horrific attacks but by taking leadership in confronting antisemitism and permissive rhetoric, lowering tensions and backing those who are willing to step in to protect the public and reassure the public.

beethecrackon24995 · 01/05/2026 08:42

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To add insult to injury the same people not only don't think they are being antisemetic, but they don't think there is any antisemitism. Oh the irony.

OrangeAxolotyl · 01/05/2026 08:47

@Whatifitallgoesright thanks for posting that. I hope helps people understand what policing is like.

EasternStandard · 01/05/2026 08:48

OrangeAxolotyl · 01/05/2026 08:47

@Whatifitallgoesright thanks for posting that. I hope helps people understand what policing is like.

Same.

HarrietPierce · 01/05/2026 08:49

Dear Zack,
I was disappointed to have seen your recent post on X amplifying a post that Met officers were "repeatedly and violently kicking a mentally ill man in the head when he was already incapacitated by taser"

I mean they were, and the perpetrator had recently left left a psychiatric hospital run by South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust in recent days. Earlier that morning he tried to stab someone in South East London but we are not hearing much about that.

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Bertiebiscuit · 01/05/2026 08:58

Frankly if there is a murderous lunatic man trying to stab and kill others on our streets the police can kick him anywhere they like, more power to them. Polanski is a pathetic wet wokey bro who just likes causing trouble. Personally i can't believe anyone takes hypnotits seriously, he's a clown.

Gloriia · 01/05/2026 11:35

TemperanceWest · 01/05/2026 08:11

Delurking to say I completely agree. Hopefully that poster will be banned.

Lots of deletions. Well done mnhq, showing anti semitism will not stand even if wrapped up in long winded sentences and 'I'm posh me' announcements.

ThatCyanCat · 01/05/2026 11:53

It was absolutely shite writing. I can't stand "bloviated word salad mean me clever" text. Antisemitism, ignorance and misinformation are worse, but they're definitely aggravated when you're made to suffer twice by terrible prose.

I hope the poster is actually banned.

OrangeAxolotyl · 01/05/2026 11:54

ThatCyanCat · 01/05/2026 11:53

It was absolutely shite writing. I can't stand "bloviated word salad mean me clever" text. Antisemitism, ignorance and misinformation are worse, but they're definitely aggravated when you're made to suffer twice by terrible prose.

I hope the poster is actually banned.

😂too true!

DrinkPupKitDrink · 01/05/2026 11:55

Whatifitallgoesright · 01/05/2026 08:37

Mark Rowley has written to Zack Polanski

Dear Zack,
I was disappointed to have seen your recent post on X amplifying a post that Met officers were "repeatedly and violently kicking a mentally ill man in the head when he was already incapacitated by taser".
I am disappointed because it is this kind of inaccurate and misinformed commentary – with its associated casual disregard for the incredibly challenging and dangerous work police officers do to protect the public – that is contributing to the rising tensions we are seeing in society and undermines officer confidence to act.
It is entirely possible the author of the post you retweeted had direct experience from the scene, or has years of experience handling complex, violent situation. Yet I suspect the more likely scenario is that they another armchair critic, who thinks they could do the job, possibly more effectively than the brave officers who successfully detained that individual.
Those officers are nothing short of extraordinary. They were on the scene within a few minutes, and their actions undoubtedly prevented further injury and saved lives. As I said yesterday the officers confronted a dangerous man, they believed to be a terrorist, who refused to show his hands, who was violent, and who continued to pose a clear threat. They were not armed officers, and they feared he was concealing an explosive device.
Using only their training, equipment and a substantial level of bravery and courage, they detained him while he continued to try and attack and stab them. Without their efforts to stop him I dread to think what the outcome could have been.
Apprehending violent and dangerous criminals is a full contact and messy task which may appear shocking to observers with little experience of policing in the real world.
London’s Jewish communities are scared. They have experienced a series of targeted attacks on the community, and they expect out officers to act, protect them. That is exactly what our officers did yesterday. Your decision to criticise these officers, using your public profile and reach will have a chilling effect.
Officers need to know that when they act to protect Londoners decisively, they will be supported. Officers know they must be accountable for their use of force and there areprocesses for this to happen. Your use of your public profile to call their actions into question, hours after a terrorist incident is not the appropriate route.
Free speech is an important facet of a democratic society. We both agree on that. But against a backdrop of global instability and heightened tensions, the right approach in this situation is to show compassion, lower tensions and not inflame them further by amplifying more ‘us and them’ rhetoric.
We have significantly stepped up our activity across the capital in recent weeks, and in the hours and days following the attack in Golders Green three weeks ago we have seen communities come together to reject hatred and violence.
That solidarity matters, and at this moment we need politicians and community leaders to be at the forefront of it, not only condemning the horrific attacks but by taking leadership in confronting antisemitism and permissive rhetoric, lowering tensions and backing those who are willing to step in to protect the public and reassure the public.

👏Excellent letter, and not populist bullshit ZP and cronies are happy to disseminate 👏

Lalgarh · 01/05/2026 12:10

The Welsh greens rep (though green party covers England and Wales) has also (mildly) criticised him. Also the other deputy leader Rachel Millward has distanced herself from it and the "abhorrent" comments from candidates

https://nitter.net/treesey/status/2049935910507057588#m.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v96yy6l4ro

Polanski is very online and very thin skinned about critiques. This came out mid week and by the afternoon he was already seething about it on twitter and Bluesky

https://www.economist.com/britain/2026/04/28/zack-polanski-is-britains-first-digital-native-party-leader

Zack Polanski looking to the side wearing a white shirt and black blazer with white backdrop

Wales Greens Slaughter chides Polanski for Golders Green repost

The Wales Greens leader criticises Zack Polanski for sharing a post which condemned the police's handling of the Golders Green attack.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7v96yy6l4ro

ThatCyanCat · 01/05/2026 12:22

Not enough to do a bit of throat clearing over it. They need to kick these people out and make strong statements against it - none of this slimy "perception" of unsafety stuff (that aged well, didn't it, Dave?) - and then act with it.

But they won't. Mothin Ali is now urging people to sue the party over the suspensions. What priorities does that show?

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 01/05/2026 12:30

OrangeAxolotyl · 01/05/2026 08:22

@CornishDaughteroftheDawn - you're doing well challenging that poster's points, your rebuttals are spot on, but I don't think they're going to pay attention. I think they're too much in a certain mindset.

Thank you, that’s very kind. I think we’re all rather shocked at the blatant anti semitism with an attempt to mask it by being nasty about many other swathes of society. Quite scary to think that people with such firmly held views walk among us.

inamarina · 01/05/2026 12:41

Noodledog · 30/04/2026 20:20

Btw, I really hope @ClaireByrne1987 's post doesn't get deleted, because it sets out quite clearly how some people think, but always deny. Good to see the truth and not some mealy-mouthed "oh I'm an anti Zionist, not anti- semitic!"

I see it’s been deleted now, but I agree with you.
What a strange post that was, blatantly spreading misinformation.
And yet it’s exactly that kind of made up nonsense some people base their opinions on.

inamarina · 01/05/2026 12:48

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 20:29

"Shomrim and Hatzola serve the general community, they're like St John's Ambulance"

It depends on what you mean by "the general community". You mean "the general community" in those parts of London which have a significant Jewish population? So those parts get extra NHS funded ambulances that are taken away from the London ambulance service that serves all of London?

Why do you keep saying the Hatzola ambulances are NHS funded?

inamarina · 01/05/2026 12:50

ClaireByrne1987 · 30/04/2026 20:30

"The Hatzola are a Jewish charity that BOUGHT their own ambulances and fund the cost of running the service themselves and they serve the local population regardless of their faith."

Untrue. https://www.londonambulance.nhs.uk/2026/03/25/london-ambulance-service-loans-ambulances-to-jewish-community-following-devastating-arson-attack/

“London Ambulance Service loans ambulances to Jewish community following devastating arson attack

Did you miss that last bit?

ThatCyanCat · 01/05/2026 12:52

inamarina · 01/05/2026 12:48

Why do you keep saying the Hatzola ambulances are NHS funded?

Because Claire is obsessed with spreading an antisemitic trope (a lie, in other words) that Jews control money and services and get better care than other people, even very rich and clever middle class Londoners who hate "native British specimens". It's like listening to a shit and racist David Attenborough.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 01/05/2026 13:04

OrangeAxolotyl · 01/05/2026 08:06

Yes, I agree. I thought he was very clear and he said that he doesn't usually do this with politicians, but how crucial it was to challenge Polanski's accusations. It's very true that many people don't understand what policing involves.
I think there are probably some well intentioned people on here who were shocked at the police action, but MR did clarify.

Yes, I think he can see that their are some people who are so blinkered and hard of thinking that they soak up ZPs pronouncements as if they were fair and true.

inamarina · 01/05/2026 13:10

ThatCyanCat · 30/04/2026 21:30

Hmm, something isn't ringing quite right. The antisemitism is genuine, as is the paranoia, but without wishing to reveal too much about myself, I know quite a lot of affluent middle class Londoners and don't get me wrong, they're definitely capable of being pompous and wonky, but they're not usually this... performative? I mean, they don't generally have to tell you how rich and middle class and London they are? They're more... self assured, in that way of people who just are what they are? Often don't even realise their privilege because it's their normal.

Anyway, still seeking suggestions for a povvo provincial charity to honour the charmer. TIA.

I know what you mean. Starting their first (?) post on this thread with 'many people on here can’t afford to live in London' was somewhat bizarre, to say the least.

Alittlefrustrated · 01/05/2026 13:12

Blimms · 30/04/2026 12:33

It’s bad because normalising kicking a suspect in the head is dangerous for us all.

Agree 100%. It's nothing to do with sympathy for the terrorist (zero here).
Police need to be in control and their responses appropriate to the level of threat. It takes a certain type of peron to kick someone in the head. A stamp to the wrist, for example, would seem more appropriate if trying to disarm.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 01/05/2026 13:13

ThatCyanCat · 01/05/2026 12:52

Because Claire is obsessed with spreading an antisemitic trope (a lie, in other words) that Jews control money and services and get better care than other people, even very rich and clever middle class Londoners who hate "native British specimens". It's like listening to a shit and racist David Attenborough.

native British specimens

That tickled me. As a Cornishwoman with a long list of Cornish ancestors, I may well be a genuine ‘native British specimen’ but it is an odd way to refer to an actual human being.

We are generally pretty easy going and welcoming though, contrary to that PPs claims. It is generally only uppity and entitled people from elsewhere who treat Cornwall like their personal playground, while sneering at the locals that we get a bit tetchy about. And even then it’s often more of a wind up than hostility from proper locals. Some settled incomers can be a bit more defensive I guess.

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