Zach Polanski is evil

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/38973908/fury-zack-polanski-cops-terrorist-antisemitic-rampage/Zack

It’s a shame you start threads with such a tone of hate.

We should all be on the side of innocent people. Watching that video of the man in orthodox attire running away from the perpetrator brought tears to my eyes. I felt so so sorry for him. The poor innocent men just wanting to get on with their lives. I live in the area and have many friends and colleagues affected by this and fear for their safety.

Plenty of people of all backgrounds and races condemn the attack. Only an antisemitic minority would support innocent Jewish people being stabbed. There is an unpleasant and divisive tone to your comments which feels disingenuous and about branding everyone who doesn’t agree with you about the exact police strategy here, an antisemite. It’s surely not that simple.

Anyway, the current situation is unacceptable and I want my Jewish friends and neighbours to feel safe. We should all want that.

No ...the people including plenty of Jewish people on the marches hate unnecessary deaths in their tens of thousands, billions trillions spent on the arms industry

How do you know the blows to the head didn't enable them to "secure his arms"?

And would you have bet your life on it?

I really despair with MN sometimes. Do you understand that it's possible for two things to be true at the same time? It's possible to both be against police brutality AND think what he did was awful.

Not sarcastic at all, eh?
I was actually being sincere because I truly hope that he doesn't experience such an awful thing. However, he may need to perhaps develop empathy; what if it was his family or boyfriend? Sometimes leaders need to think beyond that which is easy to say.
I hope that he has pause to reflect. 🙏

Not unable. Unwilling, because they would give themselves away.
No need. We see you.

This is from a poster last year who described herself as "visibly Jewish" who was at a pro Palestine march

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5409720-my-son-has-gone-on-the-march?reply=147112294&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

"I’m visibly Jewish. Imagine how I must feel every time I walk past a pro Palestine protest. The latest horrific thing I encountered was a group of women hissing as I went past. I was unsure about what it meant so I asked them.. They were unable to talk to me initially because one of them said to the others; don’t talk to a zio-Nazi, she’s a child killer. But I stayed and waited and asked again. They continued with their hissing until a passerby (also Jewish though not as visibly) took me away and explained that it was meant to be the sound of the gas chambers.
So I understand how you must feel and I’m genuinely sorry and appalled that you feel threatened by this march. That’s wrong and upsetting on so many levels. I also hope that you can see that other protests make other people feel threatened. And that any kind of intimidation, racism or hate has no place on our streets, no matter what principles you stand for. The only way to preserve humanity and values is to listen and accept other views, and embrace differences with understanding and peaceful discourse. Again, I’m so sorry that you feel this way."

I think Polanski has come to this somewhat unaware. He's not an MP, he's an actor and hypnotist (I think). Sometimes people need to pause before just saying something to get in the headlines.
I think he's a man who needs to pause and reflect more.

People just don't think it's an example of police brutality. And I think that choosing to move the focus away from the victims of a anti-semitic terrorist attack in this way is......a strange thing to do. And he's not even bothered to wait a bit- just straight into worrying about the terrorist.

Of course its possible. The debate is really about whether the use of force was justified, and therefore would not constitute brutality. It's very easy for someone watching from the comfort of their own home and not grappling a murderous man with a knife to say they could have done it differently.

Kicking someone in the head is not reasonable force. Had a taser, hadn't used it at that point. He's not evil, he's very sensible.

Ok I'll explain this like im talking to a child and maybe you will understand.

When you are dealing with a violent person who has atleast 1 weapon in their hand and possibly a suicide vest and you kick them in the head instinct kicks in and the person being kicked drop what they are holding to protect their head and its really difficult to concentrate on doing anything when someone is kicking you in the head.
I have already explained why they kick instead of using a baton repeatedly but I'll do it again for you
To get close enough to hit someone with a baton who is on the ground you have to get close enough to be attacked with a knife and because you are bent over your vital organs are within striking distance whereas when you kick only your foot and leg are. Also when bent over your own weapons/equipment can be grabed by the assailent.
Hope that helps you understand why you are talking nonsense

Oh dear. You haven’t really been paying attention have you.

I think plenty of people on this thread have said they do think it's police brutality. And I don't think he's worried about the terrorist, I think he's worried about policing in general. He's generally in favour of police and prison reform so to him this will be an example. Opportunistic, yes.

Have they? I've seen a few people say it repeatedly.

Yes, I was being sarcastic because it’s plain as day you weren’t being sincere at all. It goes without saying (for most of us) that we hope nobody - whether we like their comments or not - is the victim of a terror attack. You can disagree with him without stooping so low. Or maybe you can’t, I don’t know.

It was a disgusting implication and you know it. ‘Ooh, hope this Jewish man I don’t like doesn’t get hurt’. And doubling down suggesting it may teach him empathy. Disgusting.

And you can’t even spell axolotl. Unforgivable.

The police thought he may have a bomb attached to himself so wanted to see his hands. For all they know he was trying to pull the cord attached to an explosive device.

So I don’t blame that officer for kicking him in the head, he was incredibly brave as was those others surrounding him. Though I would not call Zack Evil, I’ll retain that for the knife man.

Meanwhile 2 Green Party candidates have been arrested for stirring up racial hatred after online antisemitic comments.
I hope Polanski speaks up about this.

Absolutely. He had already stabbed two people. What on earth do we expect the police to do - ask him nicely? He was refusing to hand over the knife. I do not expect any police officer to unnecessarily put her/himself at risk by trying to grab the knife from under him. I can’t see how that will work without the officer being slashed or stabbed.

How many times do you need it explained to you it wasn't excessive force.
Given that there was NO excessive force your entire argument falls at the 1st hurdle.
All you are doing is making a fool of yourself and spreading false news in defence of a terrorist. Have you stopped to think why you are doing this?

I'm a bit confused. You asked why people couldn't be both against police brutality and think what the terrorist did was awful. My answer is simple: most people do care about police brutality, they disagree that this is an example of it. I hope that's simple enough.

You have to be joking? This man previously attacked a police officer who was out of work for 5 months.
It wouldn’t be excessive had he been shot straight between the eyes, never mind a kick.
He was definitely still in fight mode when kicked, I thought the Police were very brave, especially in today’s society when sympathy lies with the attacker. Good for them.
I would imagine the police in his native country take no bull shit.

Maybe this post, from someone who clearly knows what she is talking about, should just be reposted again and again until the naive (hopefully) fools actually understand it.

I posted because OP has said that condemning both the police and the terrorist is stupid, and that anyone criticising the police here really just hates Jews.

I disagree with you insisting that no one thinks this was an example of police brutality when many on this thread have said they think they used unnecessary force. I've been watching the thread on and off all day and plenty have said that.

I don’t doubt there are anti-semites in attendance.

But that does not answer my question: how is protesting the actions of a government a “culture of murder”?