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tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:39

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 17:36

It was enough to enable the police to secure his arms which rendered him incapable of causing further harm.

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They could have done that without kicking him in the head.

I guess some people are happy with an increasingly violent police force. I am not, and I will always maintain that view.

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coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 17:40

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:39

They could have done that without kicking him in the head.

I guess some people are happy with an increasingly violent police force. I am not, and I will always maintain that view.

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Poor little terrorist.

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tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:40

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OrangeAxolotyl · 30/04/2026 17:41

Anyahyacinth · 30/04/2026 17:37

I presume you can't believe it, because it isn't true?

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You misunderstand.
My disbelief is about how the party has changed so much. I have previously voted for them because I was concerned about the environment.
It's policies have radically changed.
I find it strange and perplexing, so that is why I framed it as "disbelief".

olivepicanto · 30/04/2026 17:41

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:38

How did kicking his head secure his arms?

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Someone already explained that the brain will instinctively raise the hands to protect the head.

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 17:41

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CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 17:42

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:19

And my answer is I wouldn’t have kicked him in the head.

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No, that’s saying what you wouldn’t have done.

You were asked what you would have done, it requires an entirely different answer.

How would you have stopped him from stabbing or slashing you while he was on the ground and you were trying to grab his hands to cuff him?

Anyahyacinth · 30/04/2026 17:42

1dayatatime · 30/04/2026 17:33

So let's get this straight, he was still holding a knife and lying face down on the ground. The hand holding the knife was tucked under his body. The police were trying to get both of his hands behind his back so they could handcuff him.

Except one of the hands was still holding the knife. To avoid the policeman being stabbed whilst trying to get the hand (holding the knife)
behind his back the police shouted for him to "drop the f'ing knife". In order to incapacitate him the policeman kicked the terrorist in the head twice.

Now what intrigues me is what are your motives in seeking to make out a man who has just stabbed two British Jews as a victim?

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His MH issues may influence his status and the status of this crime. An investigation still needs to happen.

Just out of interest how do you drop a knife if you are bodily on top of it?

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:44

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I don’t think it’s worth continuing this conversation as I don’t think you started this thread in good faith, nor do you have the requisite intelligence to discuss the actual issue at hand.

HeadHands · 30/04/2026 17:44

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What do you mean specifically by a ‘culture of murder’.

Forthesteps · 30/04/2026 17:44

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And some of us have experience of the Police acting like little Hitlers.

And no, we were the victim of crime not the perps.I will never trust them again. Never. And you'll just have to deal.

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 17:45

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:39

They could have done that without kicking him in the head.

I guess some people are happy with an increasingly violent police force. I am not, and I will always maintain that view.

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As you will never be in the position of trying to restrain a would- be murderer armed with a knife and not knowing if he has a suicide belt, then you can't say what you would do. As for me, I would kick him.

Forthesteps · 30/04/2026 17:45

HeadHands · 30/04/2026 17:44

What do you mean specifically by a ‘culture of murder’.

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They mean brown people/Muslims, but they're not racists🤔

Anyahyacinth · 30/04/2026 17:46

OrangeAxolotyl · 30/04/2026 17:41

You misunderstand.
My disbelief is about how the party has changed so much. I have previously voted for them because I was concerned about the environment.
It's policies have radically changed.
I find it strange and perplexing, so that is why I framed it as "disbelief".

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I think you stated policies that they don't espouse.. the Greens have always had radical policies...the environment is not separate from things like economic justice, climate caused migration and more

OrangeAxolotyl · 30/04/2026 17:46

Anyahyacinth · 30/04/2026 17:42

His MH issues may influence his status and the status of this crime. An investigation still needs to happen.

Just out of interest how do you drop a knife if you are bodily on top of it?

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I think you can't "drop" it in that situation.
The wisest thing to do would be to push it away from you so that it would indicate that you're giving up.

HarrietPierce · 30/04/2026 17:46

HeadHands · Today 17:44
"What do you mean specifically by a ‘culture of murder"

Yes, what do you mean?

OrangeAxolotyl · 30/04/2026 17:47

Anyahyacinth · 30/04/2026 17:46

I think you stated policies that they don't espouse.. the Greens have always had radical policies...the environment is not separate from things like economic justice, climate caused migration and more

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I never said it was separate from those things?
I think you may have the wrong poster.

Underthinker · 30/04/2026 17:47

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 17:42

No, that’s saying what you wouldn’t have done.

You were asked what you would have done, it requires an entirely different answer.

How would you have stopped him from stabbing or slashing you while he was on the ground and you were trying to grab his hands to cuff him?

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Did they try reminding him about having "kind hands"?

JHound · 30/04/2026 17:48

I don’t think it’s “evil” to be opposed to police brutality no matter who it’s against. I think if that’s your value you hold it consistently.

I would have simply remained silent if I were him. But once they have him restrained then the additional violence is unnecessary.

Hoardasurass · 30/04/2026 17:48

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:14

He was on the floor and the threat was neutralised. Why are you attempting to justify excessive force? We should never, ever stand for it. Especially not from our police. The best thing about our police forces are that after every incident of discharging a firearm it’s reviewed by an independent panel - to keep them in check. Kicking them in the head was just unnecessary and not what I want to see from our police at all. You can praise them for stopping the attack and also say “actually mate kicking someone in the head isn’t right”.

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He was not neutralise he was still armed and resisting arrest.
There was NO excessive force used
Kicking him in the head is a recognised tactic and was nesscary
Why are you willfully misrepresenting the facts to defend a terrorist?

HarrietPierce · 30/04/2026 17:48

That question was for coulditbeme2323 not HeadHands ·

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coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 17:48

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:44

I don’t think it’s worth continuing this conversation as I don’t think you started this thread in good faith, nor do you have the requisite intelligence to discuss the actual issue at hand.

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Bye then.

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Winter2020 · 30/04/2026 17:48

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:22

if he could, the police had evidently failed at neutralising the situation and further violence wouldn’t do anything to the situation.

I’ve not actually mentioned the perpetrator at all, as I think he’s disgusting and not worth the energy it would take for me to think of him. What I have done is say I do not want a police force that feels increasingly comfortable with using excessive force. That’s how you end up with a police force like the one in America, where they have police officers who feel comfortable shooting people at a traffic stop.

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The police force is America are trigger happy because the criminals are trigger happy. Wouldn't you be a bit twitchy stopping someone in America where so many people carry guns. Everything is heightened in that situation.

JHound · 30/04/2026 17:49

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What is a culture of murder? Where is this?

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coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 17:49

HeadHands · 30/04/2026 17:44

What do you mean specifically by a ‘culture of murder’.

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What don't you understand?

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