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CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 17:30

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:14

He was on the floor and the threat was neutralised. Why are you attempting to justify excessive force? We should never, ever stand for it. Especially not from our police. The best thing about our police forces are that after every incident of discharging a firearm it’s reviewed by an independent panel - to keep them in check. Kicking them in the head was just unnecessary and not what I want to see from our police at all. You can praise them for stopping the attack and also say “actually mate kicking someone in the head isn’t right”.

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He wasn’t remotely neutralised - he was still armed and fighting.

As he had previous convictions for violent attacks he is probably fairly used to fighting. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

What you would like the police to do if he was coming for you? Have a nice chat with him and ask him nicely not to murder anyone?

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:31

KatiePricesKnickers · 30/04/2026 16:31

The terrorist was lucky it wasn’t the armed police who showed up first.

Or another mentally ill BAME man failed by the system. He was known to the authorities.

Forthesteps · 30/04/2026 17:31

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 12:37

I can, and I did.

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And people haven't taken you seriously.
Polanski is naif and shortsighted but that's silly, hyperbolic and harms whatever argument you were aiming for.

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:31

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 17:30

He wasn’t remotely neutralised - he was still armed and fighting.

As he had previous convictions for violent attacks he is probably fairly used to fighting. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

What you would like the police to do if he was coming for you? Have a nice chat with him and ask him nicely not to murder anyone?

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And what did kicking him in the head achieve? Other than a potential fatality, which would then prevent the victims and their families getting justice?

Again, I think some people are genuinely unable to have a nuanced conversation about this because they just can’t comprehend what is being said.

Anyahyacinth · 30/04/2026 17:33

CaptainMyCaptain · 30/04/2026 12:52

Someone I know was seriously beaten by Police walking home from his night shift as a firefighter in the late 80s - he looked suspicious obviously because he was black. He sustained injuries which put him on light duties (ie not saving people in fires) and eventually got compensation. More recently a Sikh woman was raped and subject to horrific abuse because the attacker though she was Muslim.

I'm not in any way excusing the attack yesterday but nobody should be subject to violence or abuse because of their religion or ethnicity. Imagine being Jewish and going about your day in good old England and being killed for belonging to a faith and or ethnic group. Imagine being anybody that happened to.

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Yes you could argue calling Zack P "evil" is antisemitic

1dayatatime · 30/04/2026 17:33

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:19

He was unable to use it.

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So let's get this straight, he was still holding a knife and lying face down on the ground. The hand holding the knife was tucked under his body. The police were trying to get both of his hands behind his back so they could handcuff him.

Except one of the hands was still holding the knife. To avoid the policeman being stabbed whilst trying to get the hand (holding the knife)
behind his back the police shouted for him to "drop the f'ing knife". In order to incapacitate him the policeman kicked the terrorist in the head twice.

Now what intrigues me is what are your motives in seeking to make out a man who has just stabbed two British Jews as a victim?

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coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 17:33

Forthesteps · 30/04/2026 17:31

And people haven't taken you seriously.
Polanski is naif and shortsighted but that's silly, hyperbolic and harms whatever argument you were aiming for.

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I mean lots have, you are free to disagree, but lots have.

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EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 17:34

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:29

I think you’re unable to have more than a surface level conversation about this.

The issue isn’t that the police stopped a terrorist. The issue is that they used excessive force once he was stopped.

If we live in a country where police are being encouraged to use potentially lethal levels of force (kicking someone in the head can quite easily kill them), and it’s normalised and celebrated, we will have a society where that level of force is normalised within the police force. If you get called evil, an anti semite, a “terrorist sympathiser” for pointing out that perhaps some of their actions were not the best, it plays into the hands of those officers who do want to use their position and abuse it.

We have seen multiple times that there are plenty of bad eggs in the police force (and I am not saying that these officers are “bad eggs”, before someone says that I am). If we normalise this, where does it end? A police officer pulling you out of your car and kicking you in the head because they can’t see your hands at a traffic stop? Police officers using their positions to abuse women, as has happened before?

This is a debate with layers to it but some people seem entirely unable to have that conversation.

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It’s not ‘surface level’. I haven’t seen an answer on how you’d tackle the person. Just repeating you’d not do something rather than how you’d deal with all possible threats on a crowded street.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 17:34

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:16

And what, in your mind, is “the job”? Injuring him? Possibly bringing about a lawsuit against the police for excessive force?

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‘The job’ was stopping a terrorist from harming the public. 🤷‍♀️. Which they did.

Honestly until you have been in a high stress life or death situation like that I don’t think you should criticise. It’s all so simple from your armchair but reality is vastly different. These officers risked their lives for others and you just criticise them.

Upstartled · 30/04/2026 17:34

1dayatatime · 30/04/2026 17:33

So let's get this straight, he was still holding a knife and lying face down on the ground. The hand holding the knife was tucked under his body. The police were trying to get both of his hands behind his back so they could handcuff him.

Except one of the hands was still holding the knife. To avoid the policeman being stabbed whilst trying to get the hand (holding the knife)
behind his back the police shouted for him to "drop the f'ing knife". In order to incapacitate him the policeman kicked the terrorist in the head twice.

Now what intrigues me is what are your motives in seeking to make out a man who has just stabbed two British Jews as a victim?

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Agreed.

MulberryBrandy · 30/04/2026 17:34

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:31

And what did kicking him in the head achieve? Other than a potential fatality, which would then prevent the victims and their families getting justice?

Again, I think some people are genuinely unable to have a nuanced conversation about this because they just can’t comprehend what is being said.

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I'm very sorry it is uncomfortable to see any violence. I do suggest you look at the BBC video of the incident on the news page. I do not think excessive force was used - only completely necessary to get the knife out of his hand. Once they had got the knife they stopped kicking and secured his upper body.

Please everyone support the police in this. We do not want to be divisive.

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:34

1dayatatime · 30/04/2026 17:33

So let's get this straight, he was still holding a knife and lying face down on the ground. The hand holding the knife was tucked under his body. The police were trying to get both of his hands behind his back so they could handcuff him.

Except one of the hands was still holding the knife. To avoid the policeman being stabbed whilst trying to get the hand (holding the knife)
behind his back the police shouted for him to "drop the f'ing knife". In order to incapacitate him the policeman kicked the terrorist in the head twice.

Now what intrigues me is what are your motives in seeking to make out a man who has just stabbed two British Jews as a victim?

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Again, I have never once made him out to be a victim. I have focused on the actions of the police. How did kicking him in the head achieve their aim?

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:35

MulberryBrandy · 30/04/2026 17:34

I'm very sorry it is uncomfortable to see any violence. I do suggest you look at the BBC video of the incident on the news page. I do not think excessive force was used - only completely necessary to get the knife out of his hand. Once they had got the knife they stopped kicking and secured his upper body.

Please everyone support the police in this. We do not want to be divisive.

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I’m sorry but who do you think you are to demand people think a certain way?

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:35

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 17:34

It’s not ‘surface level’. I haven’t seen an answer on how you’d tackle the person. Just repeating you’d not do something rather than how you’d deal with all possible threats on a crowded street.

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And I’ve not seen you do anything but throw accusations at people and derail conversations.

HarrietPierce · 30/04/2026 17:36

Marble10 · Today 1r7:23
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"ZP is a terrorist supporter"

Don't be so bloody ridiculous

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 17:36

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:17

So surely incapacitating his upper body and arms is more efffctive than kicking him in the head?

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And how were they supposed to try and do that without risking him slashing their ankles?

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 17:36

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:34

Again, I have never once made him out to be a victim. I have focused on the actions of the police. How did kicking him in the head achieve their aim?

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It was enough to enable the police to secure his arms which rendered him incapable of causing further harm.

Anyahyacinth · 30/04/2026 17:37

OrangeAxolotyl · 30/04/2026 15:55

I can't believe they've gone from an ecology party, concerned with climate change and renewable energy, to some sort of rump of a Corbynite party, antisemitic, anti police, anti women, and ready to cancel the Home Office and border security.

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I presume you can't believe it, because it isn't true?

MulberryBrandy · 30/04/2026 17:37

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:35

I’m sorry but who do you think you are to demand people think a certain way?

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Please do not speak to me like that. It comes over as aggressive and divisive. I am merely someone who has carefully looked at the facts.

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:37

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 17:36

And how were they supposed to try and do that without risking him slashing their ankles?

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But that is how they did it. The other officer moved his arms in the end.

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:37

MulberryBrandy · 30/04/2026 17:37

Please do not speak to me like that. It comes over as aggressive and divisive. I am merely someone who has carefully looked at the facts.

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I asked a question.

northernspanishlass · 30/04/2026 17:38

Polanski is an idiot, a useful idiot for the terrorists.
Not evil but hus views are a danger to women and girls

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:38

loislovesstewie · 30/04/2026 17:36

It was enough to enable the police to secure his arms which rendered him incapable of causing further harm.

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How did kicking his head secure his arms?

Hoardasurass · 30/04/2026 17:38

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:08

He was on the floor and restrained. Kicking him in the head was not necessary and I never will think it is. Why oh why would the police open themselves up to potential claims like this?

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He was not restrained he still had his weapon when he was kicked.
Honestly have you even watched the full video? If please do before you make a bigger fool of yourself and if you have may I suggest you rewatch it as you clearly missed him eventually being disarmed after the kicks

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 17:39

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 17:18

It’s not a competition. Both are brutal. And it wasn’t proportionate, he could easily have died and the kicker would be facing a murder charge.

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You could see they were not kicking him hard enough to kill him. Try watching the video and remembering that he made his decisions to kill that day. That there were not armed police ‘neutralising’ him was his lucky day.