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Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 17:10

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:09

To be fair if you can’t have a nuanced conversation about how terrorism is bad but police brutality is also bad, I think think you’re not as intelligent as you like to think.

Why are you discussing police brutality, it certainly didn’t occur here. Or are you suggesting another way the officers could have saved lives

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:11

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 17:09

When someone uses emojis as a form of argument you are very much assured that person has no reasonable arguments to make. Thank you for confirming that your points are baseless.

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HeadHands · 30/04/2026 17:11

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 15:24

All these posts stating the police did that wrong or this wrong, is just a really underhand way of saying "I don't like Jews."

Most wont be brave enough to admit it.

You have one agenda. Unless people agree exactly with what you say, you tar everyone with the antisemitic brush. On this and other threads you have started. Are you normally this black and white in your thinking?

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 17:11

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 17:10

Why are you discussing police brutality, it certainly didn’t occur here. Or are you suggesting another way the officers could have saved lives

Kicking someone in the head is pretty brutal from where I’m sitting.

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 17:12

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 17:08

Please tell me why you think it’s stupid. I abhor all violence.

I couldn't care less if Axel Rudakubana for example was attacked in Jail.

Most normal/decent people wouldn't.

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PropertyD · 30/04/2026 17:12

God some people!! He wasnt restrained - he was hiding his knife and refused to give it up.

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 17:12

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:08

He was on the floor and restrained. Kicking him in the head was not necessary and I never will think it is. Why oh why would the police open themselves up to potential claims like this?

I think you might need to revisit the time time of events - pay special attention to when he was retained - it helps to go to source rather than listen to terrorist apologists

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:13

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 17:12

I couldn't care less if Axel Rudakubana for example was attacked in Jail.

Most normal/decent people wouldn't.

What if Lucy Letby is maimed and killed then found not guilty?

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:14

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 17:10

Why are you discussing police brutality, it certainly didn’t occur here. Or are you suggesting another way the officers could have saved lives

He was on the floor and the threat was neutralised. Why are you attempting to justify excessive force? We should never, ever stand for it. Especially not from our police. The best thing about our police forces are that after every incident of discharging a firearm it’s reviewed by an independent panel - to keep them in check. Kicking them in the head was just unnecessary and not what I want to see from our police at all. You can praise them for stopping the attack and also say “actually mate kicking someone in the head isn’t right”.

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 17:14

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:13

What if Lucy Letby is maimed and killed then found not guilty?

That’s a false comparison though

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:14

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 17:14

That’s a false comparison though

Why?

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 17:15

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:04

Using excessive violence is not something we should ever celebrate. Do you want a police force like in the USA?

It wasn’t excessive violence though. It was enough to get the job done.

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 17:15

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:13

What if Lucy Letby is maimed and killed then found not guilty?

I mean if it transpired she was not guilty it would be sad wouldn't it.

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tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:15

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 17:12

I couldn't care less if Axel Rudakubana for example was attacked in Jail.

Most normal/decent people wouldn't.

This isn’t really relevant to the conversation at hand, is it?

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 17:16

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:14

He was on the floor and the threat was neutralised. Why are you attempting to justify excessive force? We should never, ever stand for it. Especially not from our police. The best thing about our police forces are that after every incident of discharging a firearm it’s reviewed by an independent panel - to keep them in check. Kicking them in the head was just unnecessary and not what I want to see from our police at all. You can praise them for stopping the attack and also say “actually mate kicking someone in the head isn’t right”.

You don’t know what he had in his hands, a device etc.

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:16

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 30/04/2026 17:15

It wasn’t excessive violence though. It was enough to get the job done.

And what, in your mind, is “the job”? Injuring him? Possibly bringing about a lawsuit against the police for excessive force?

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 17:16

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:14

He was on the floor and the threat was neutralised. Why are you attempting to justify excessive force? We should never, ever stand for it. Especially not from our police. The best thing about our police forces are that after every incident of discharging a firearm it’s reviewed by an independent panel - to keep them in check. Kicking them in the head was just unnecessary and not what I want to see from our police at all. You can praise them for stopping the attack and also say “actually mate kicking someone in the head isn’t right”.

How was the threat “neutralised he was holding onto his knife, you know the one he had just attempted to kill two Jewish people with.

The force wasn’t “excessive” at all. Why are you refusing to acknowledge what actually happened and spreading false information - have you viewed the video?

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:16

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 17:16

You don’t know what he had in his hands, a device etc.

None of that makes kicking someone in the head okay.

coulditbeme2323 · 30/04/2026 17:16

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:15

This isn’t really relevant to the conversation at hand, is it?

It is.

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Therescathairinmybath · 30/04/2026 17:16

BIossomtoes · 30/04/2026 17:11

Kicking someone in the head is pretty brutal from where I’m sitting.

More brutal than stabbing 2 innocent strangers and attempting to stab a policeman? They used proportional force to stop him.

nomas · 30/04/2026 17:17

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 17:16

You don’t know what he had in his hands, a device etc.

So surely incapacitating his upper body and arms is more efffctive than kicking him in the head?

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 17:17

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:16

None of that makes kicking someone in the head okay.

So if he did have an explosive device and you couldn’t see his hands what would you do?

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:17

EasternStandard · 30/04/2026 17:17

So if he did have an explosive device and you couldn’t see his hands what would you do?

Not kick him in the fucking head?

Whysnothingsimple · 30/04/2026 17:18

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:16

And what, in your mind, is “the job”? Injuring him? Possibly bringing about a lawsuit against the police for excessive force?

Why do you keep harping on about excessive force? Can you clearly state you legal argument (including witness statements) of why this was “excessive” if you can’t maybe move on

Bunnyofhope · 30/04/2026 17:18

tilyougetenough · 30/04/2026 17:16

None of that makes kicking someone in the head okay.

It absolutely does.

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