To think that alcohol should also be banned for anyone born after 2008?

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Alcohol causes just as much, if not more harm to society as tobacco does. IMO it should be banned as well. Any possibly junk food as well?

The difference is that it's perfectly possible to consume alcohol safely. It isn't possible to smoke tobacco safely.

Also, it's very easy to make alcohol yourself - inmates of prisons do it all the time - so it wouldn't stop people drinking. They'd just drink homebrew that was significantly more dangerous than any alcohol you can buy in the shops.

You might want to research the Prohibition period in the USA if you want to see how badly banning alcohol works out for societies in which alcohol is culturally ingrained (spoiler alert: it doesn't).

Banning 'junk food' makes no sense. Plenty of home-cooked meals made from scratch are also very bad for you. A homemade doughnut isn't any healthier than a bought one. A ready-meal pizza isn't any worse for you than a homemade one. A McDonalds burger isn't more fattening than a homemade fry-up. Plenty of 'junk' food is perfectly innocuous. The term 'junk food' is largely meaningless.

Being alive causes cancer - if you cut out everything that “might” cause cancer, you’re in for a very boring life!

Where do you draw the line with controlling peoples lives here! Do you ban alcohol then move on to all UPF and so called junk food. Next step compulsory exercise classes and weigh ins? Fines for being over weight??
I am a very occasional drinker (and grew up with a functioning alcoholic!) and I do not agree with banning it! Personally I do not want to live in an Orwellian society!

I think OPs post is way too puritanical. But I was thinking I wouldn't mind banning alcohol for pregnant people.

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If my catty were bigger or I were smaller I'd deffo be toast!

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Pregnant 'people' - there's something I could get behind banning.

And definitely don't think the "drinking at home from 5" should be legal

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Actually now you come to mention it...

Makes me think of the Pink Panther films.

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I did read that if alcohol was discovered / invented today it would be banned as it's so addictive and harmful. As a heavy drinker I would love to seem more rules on drinking - like why is alcohol available at petrol stations? Why are pubs allowed to open at 5am in airports?

Alcohol is a KNOWN carcinogen, it’s not a “might”. It’s in the same category as tobacco smoke, asbestos and processed meat. I didn’t say we should ban alcohol but that we should be warning about it more - it’s not like I think glass of rose every other weekend is going to kill me 🙄 but cancer rates are only increasing and if you can easily reduce the risk, why wouldn’t you? I am 32 years old and I’ve lost 3 people in my life to cancer, it’s not fun.

They shouldn’t be banning anything that is sold legally from a certain section of society.
It’s a stupid idea to ban smoking or drinking, neither are healthy but adults should have the choice as long as they’re sold legally.
It’s a waste of money.

Banning drugs has worked very well so why not add alcohol to that 🙄

Actually Dollymylove, based on the OP’s theory we would still be able to buy those items aged 26 as we would have been born in 2000. I am confident it is the 18 year olds in question.

Tbh, I understand why you think that, as my (adopted) DD1 (17) has FASD. The consequences of alcohol through pregnancy can be very tragic.

But how would it ever be enforced? And also, so many women don’t know they’re pregnant in the early stages.

If as an adult, you feel "pressured" to do anything, are you really an adult?

Should you even be driving a car on your own? What if someone "pressures" you in traffic?

Should you have children? What if someone "pressures" you to do something, or not, with your child and you just can't even say no because of "pressure"

If you can't say no to drinking because of societal "pressure" maybe we need to rethink what it means to be an adult.

This thread is pissing me off with all of the crazy things I'm reading.

No accountability and nanny state advocates where it suits their fear or control issues.

Well done OP, rage bait activated and successful.

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We are a nation that does drink. And has done since goodness knows when. Counties have trade dependent to some extent on it. Use of our apples makes cider. It supports trade. Whisky in Scotland is worth much to the nation in exports. As a Christian country wine is also part of our heritage.

Not drinking is alien to our being, our heritage, our history.
There have always been those who do not. But low in number.

It can bring problems. Learning how to drink matters.

Banning it, no.

No. I think fewer people do drink alcohol now - in particular young people.

If you really want to save your health and prevent cancers then cutting out eating meat and other animal products would be very helpful.

Well in fairness if it hadn't been for the smack addiction and contracting AIDS the toxoplasmosis wouldn't likely have been fatal.

My sympathies were with the poor wee kitten.

I agree and am very opposed to knowingly doing things detrimental to a developing baby, as the consequences are so unfair. That said, for some women, it really isn't as simple as we'd like to think, especially if their experience of alleged supportive systems has been anything but.

But as you say, the policing or enforcing of such a thing would be a minefield and a slippery slope issue. I vaguely remember some public facing official making suggestions about how women of child bearing age should modify pretty much all their life choices on the off chance that they get pregnant for the thirty odd years that they might be fertile. Not men of course, just women. It didn't go down well as I recall. However, the echoes of "Handmaids Tale" rang out very loudly ....

I started the thread at 2am. I've been asleep.

No. I do not.

Where would it end?

Do we ban fast food places like McDonald's?

Do we ban haribo sweets and other pure sugar, zero nutrition foods?

Fizzy drinks?

Do we ban humans from being happy?