To think that alcohol should also be banned for anyone born after 2008?

[OonaStubbs]

Alcohol causes just as much, if not more harm to society as tobacco does. IMO it should be banned as well. Any possibly junk food as well?

Smoking mainly harms the smoker (passive smoking aside) so it makes sense to have this aged based cut off ban, where those not yet addicted don’t become so.

The alcohol related consequences that make it harmful affect others as much as the drinker - violence etc - so there’s no sense in making it an age cut off. If you’re going to ban it, ban it to everyone.

Tbh why should someone living with children - or someone living with anyone more vulnerable or weaker than themselves - be allowed to pour a mood altering substance, that can lead them to become abusive and violent, down their necks?

I like a drink as much as most people, but it’s a fair point.

This is why it needs to be banned. I can have a beer and it affects no-one.

It stays between me and my liver.

You can't ban anything that's as easily created as leaving your fruit juice too long before you drink it.

Oh, now we want to use the excuse of cancer to ban alcohol.

Well, in that case, ban:
Mobile phones/bluetooth
microwaves
Tefal
black utensils
The sun
sunscreen
diet soda
real soda
sugar
deodorant
polyester
vegetables because of pesticide
seed oils
aging
having a family in case there is a 'history'
tap water

.........................and on, and on, and on, and on

Spot the fun sponge!

I agree. I can see the pluses of the smoking ban but it still doesn't sit comfortably with me.

Also, why haven't vapes been "banned' if cigarettes have?

Prohibition?

Didn't America try that 🤣😂🤣 ?

Do you expect the NHS to continue to operate once you remove £16bn of tax generation from the economy?

Alcohol is a class 1 carcinogen, the same as tobacco smoke. It increases the risk of various cancers, including breast cancer. It’s estimated that 8% of female breast cancer cases in the UK are linked to alcohol consumption. I am a fun sponge when cancer is involved.

Didn’t you watch train spotting. Poor Tommy

Aside from cases where someone get violent or drives under the influence of alcohol, both of which are already illegal and often result in jail time, drinking alcohol only harms the person choosing to drink it, unlike tobacco smoke.

And birds kill worms. As many as 20 per hour per bird in the case of American robins.

How would you know who was the patient and who was the bystander? And how would you know who had and hadn't had a drink?

Why does it have to be responsibly? Occasionally getting wankered with your mates is great too.

This is the same person who made the teacher with fake boobs post.

Friday tomorrow isn't it? I'm thinking bag of chips, 20 B&H, a good few glasses of whatever, a greasy doner and back home for 3 and maybe a bunk-up.

A couple of paracetamol and ibuprofen and I should be good for parkrun...(Trust me, it's great with numb legs, hada pb like that one time 🤣)

Who's in?

With respect, people's experiences do differ.
I've known a lot of people over the years who use weed almost daily - not huge amounts, just frequently. Have a smoke in the evening, type thing, where someone else might have a glass of wine. An addiction of sorts but a very mild/limited one. And not slipping into daily cocaine use.

The overwhelming majority of those I know who have used other drugs have done so occasionally to enhance an experience. Eg. Going to a gig, having a bit of ecstasy. Perhaps the anti drugs education worked as there seems to be an awareness that it's an occasional thing and the risk of addiction if done too often!

In that sense, drugs are similar to alcohol. It's just as a society we've accepted alcohol. In all cases, it seems there are some people who can't just have a little bit now and then but quickly increase amounts and become dependent/addicted.

yabu

not because I disagree with you but because bootleg and other legitimate alcohol (cleaning products) is incredibly dangerous.

plus, unlike smoking, alcohol is naturally occuring in fermentation processes (pickles, vinegar...) and used as solvent in medicines.

I haven’t been affected by people smoking. I have been affected by people drinking. Alcoholic abusive parent. Then I went straight to an alcoholic abusive partner. Probably because I was messed up by said parent! Although I did leave him fairly quickly.

The harm from second hand smoke is practically non existent for the vast majority of people now smoking is banned in so many places. Your not going to drop dead on the spot because someone smokes a cigarette beside you but a drunk driver could kill you instantly.

That said, I don’t agree with any ban, including the new smoking one. I wouldn’t be surprised if it got over turned somewhere down the line. We’re too close to too many other countries that don’t have a ban. Cigarettes will still be sold in vast quantities to the people that want them. It might have worked in New Zealand who originally came up with the idea, as they’re so remote. But even they dropped it. It’s ridiculous to think it can ever really be enforced to any degree.

Banning adults from things older adults will be ineffective in preventing younger adults from using those things wether thats cigarettes,alcohol or food..
An adult born say in 1995(aged 31yrs) can buy all those things legally let say this person fills up the fridge with Wine and Pizza.
An adult in that family born in 2008 (18 yrs) is banned from the wine and Pizza.
I dont think thats feasible.
And will become more difficult as the yrs go by.
Eventually we will have a situation where some adults can legally drink alcohol and eat junk food and other adults can not. I don't think that will fly..

For some reason the people I hear complaining about the smoking ban are also not happy with the idea of decriminalising drugs. Why is that?

I do judge people who do drugs harder than weed.

You can get alcohol free version of those. The alcohol burns off in the cooking anyway

Totally agree on both.
I can’t believe that ham is still the go to sandwich filling for kids parties and lunchboxes when out and about, when the link to cancer has been proven!

Have you had cancer? Well take it from someone who does it’s not much fun and yes all the things that have been shown to cause cancer should indeed be widely damned, if not banned!