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Son wouldn’t let me use his loo !

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zoovo · Today 09:05

I visited my 23 yr old Son over the weekend. I live 2.5hrs from him. Parked on his driveway and we headed straight out to lunch, shops etc. At the end of my visit I said I will use your loo before I leave and he said I couldn’t. Apparently his GF was in his home and she wasn’t ready to meet me due to anxiety. I said I only need a wee, I actually thought he was joking but he wasn’t. I left close to tears that he would do this to me. So I just left. I found a garden centre 25min into my journey home to stop off at. I’m still in disbelief that he treated me this way. I’m really hurt by this. I do have some medical issues at times which mean sometimes I really do need the loo urgently and he knows this. On this occasion it wasn’t to urgent but he didn’t know that. I don’t know how to move forward from this. Am I being unreasonable to feel so upset by this?

OP posts:
KeepPumping · Today 16:42

Purpletable · Today 13:44

It is at my door (my child) and I obviously will support them always. I would advise my other children not to stay with a girlfriend/boyfriend with serious mental health issues though, to get out if they can. It is no way to live.

I knew it would be someone close to you, but that can"t be generalised across a benefits culture that has sprung up around "anxiety" and "not being able to work because I feel a bit anxious in crowds" etc. I don"t deny that gaming, phones, weed etc. has caused an increase in ME issues among the young, but there is also an army of people taking the piss unfortunately and due to mass immigration no one really cared that they were on the scrapheap and stuck to the government teat (how many vote Labour just to keep the benefits flowing?)

Cakeandcardio · Today 16:51

AD1509 · Today 09:15

Honestly does not surprise me in the slightest with that generation. “No your mum cannot go for an urgent wee because I am prioritising my mental health and her urinating in a nearby room is just far to much for me right now”

Sounds about right. Self care I think they call it. Selfish it what I call it. Main character syndrome.

zoovo · Today 16:53

Oleoreoleo · Today 11:22

Kids can struggle to see us as actual human beings, instead of “just mum”. It’s not a failure of love.

Sometimes, when we put someone else’s needs before our own, we also sideline those we love, because mentally they are in the “us” category, He shouldn’t treat you badly. But he might have been seeing you as part of his camp, iyswim. It may not be what’s happening here, but I’m just sharing because sometimes the reasoning is a bit more convoluted.

Dp/dh prioritise the craziest woman in their life. In my case it’s mil. I just cannot match her energy (nor would I want to) and the cost for not placating her is high. So when dh is put on the spot, his instinct swings that way. Given a chance to think first, he puts family first, even if he knows she’ll kick off, but that took time and awareness on his part.

But otoh let’s not rush to blame the gf. She didn’t actually do anything that we can verify. Maybe she wasn’t ready to meet you, but if she had known, would have moved to a different room. He didn’t actually give her that option. I’d be absolutely mortified in her shoes, and if she has problems with anxiety she might not have the capacity to reach out to you.

It’s a very upsetting thing op, and I can really sympathise with the hurt. But try and find the softer interpretation so you can move through this.

I’m going to add that you might be over stepping a bit by cleaning for him, particularly unasked. Especially if he’s living with someone. It’s something to be mindful of. There’s a point where you have to become more of a guest, than a parent in your dc’s house - switch to admiring instead of advising, and only help when asked.

He doesn’t keep on top of the general cleaning well and is always happy and grateful for me helping out with this. As guarantor to this property I do feel obliged to help keep it reasonably clean and he does have regular landlord inspections. His Gf lives in her own apartment and I don’t expect her to do any cleaning.

OP posts:
Kimura · Today 17:00

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 15:46

Actually I haven’t. She said the house was disgusting. Now, do you not think that her son would be able to pick up on how she felt?

She said the house was disgusting.

She didn't say that, no matter how many times you claim otherwise.

Now, do you not think that her son would be able to pick up on how she felt?

Her son is grateful for her help cleaning. That's all we know.

You have invented a scenario in which her son doesn't want her in the house based on her comments about the state of his home, despite their being nothing to suggest he feels that way, and no evidence to suggest those comments were even made.

TanquerayTickles · Today 17:06

The reaches some people are going to excuse the behaviour of denying someone, their own Mother no less, basic common decency is mental.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · Today 17:11

zoovo · Today 16:53

He doesn’t keep on top of the general cleaning well and is always happy and grateful for me helping out with this. As guarantor to this property I do feel obliged to help keep it reasonably clean and he does have regular landlord inspections. His Gf lives in her own apartment and I don’t expect her to do any cleaning.

I'd be reminding him that you are his guarantor as well, and the can easily be removed once his lease is up for renewal. He's behaving like a sullen and entitled teenager, not a grown man. Very ungrateful and self-absorbed behaviour. Either that, or he needs to grow a backbone and stand up to his GF.

cotswoldsgal1234 · Today 17:13

Have you thought that his bathroom could be filthy and he couldn’t face you going in there?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 17:22

Kimura · Today 17:00

She said the house was disgusting.

She didn't say that, no matter how many times you claim otherwise.

Now, do you not think that her son would be able to pick up on how she felt?

Her son is grateful for her help cleaning. That's all we know.

You have invented a scenario in which her son doesn't want her in the house based on her comments about the state of his home, despite their being nothing to suggest he feels that way, and no evidence to suggest those comments were even made.

She said ON THIS THREAD that it was disgusting.

Butterme · Today 17:42

She sounds controlling.

Why was she even there when he was out all day.

I really hope your son dumps her asap, as it sounds like he’s unhappy but can’t end it because of her ‘mental health’.

That is typical abusive behaviour.

Anonymouseposter · Today 17:43

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 17:22

She said ON THIS THREAD that it was disgusting.

If it really was disgusting of course OP is going to think that and say it on this thread to illustrate that her son isn’t usually easily embarrassed. People think a lot of things they don’t actually say. OP isn’t particularly blaming the girlfriend either. If someone has a dirty loo and sink of course people will think it’s disgusting. It sounds like OP does a lot to help her son. ( guarantor, cleaning etc) and that he’s getting in a bit of a mess. It was unreasonable not to let her use the loo. Who knows if the explanation re the girlfriend was true or an excuse.

Witchonenowbob · Today 17:58

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 17:22

She said ON THIS THREAD that it was disgusting.

So what? If it’s disgusting, it’s disgusting. OPs allowed a view! It’s like you’re saying she’s not allowed a view! Nothing indicates she said that it was disgusting to him!

If he picked up on it, and didn’t like it, then clean it up.

ForCosyLion · Today 17:59

OP, your son is an adult and shouldn't need his mummy to help him keep on top of his cleaning. Does he have a disability? If so, then it's understandable. But if not, this is appalling. His poor future wife.

ToadRage · Today 18:05

While you are not being unreasonable, i am more surprised that he is living with someone you have not met! IMO living together is a big step in a relationship and can't imagine being in a relationship for that length of time and not having met each others families, anxiety or not.

Witchonenowbob · Today 18:07

ForCosyLion · Today 17:59

OP, your son is an adult and shouldn't need his mummy to help him keep on top of his cleaning. Does he have a disability? If so, then it's understandable. But if not, this is appalling. His poor future wife.

In fairness this is not about the cleaning of the flat, it’s about the fact she wasn’t allowed to use the toilet.

Witchonenowbob · Today 18:07

ToadRage · Today 18:05

While you are not being unreasonable, i am more surprised that he is living with someone you have not met! IMO living together is a big step in a relationship and can't imagine being in a relationship for that length of time and not having met each others families, anxiety or not.

He’s not living with her!

BunnyLake · Today 18:11

Kimura · Today 17:00

She said the house was disgusting.

She didn't say that, no matter how many times you claim otherwise.

Now, do you not think that her son would be able to pick up on how she felt?

Her son is grateful for her help cleaning. That's all we know.

You have invented a scenario in which her son doesn't want her in the house based on her comments about the state of his home, despite their being nothing to suggest he feels that way, and no evidence to suggest those comments were even made.

She did say the kitchen and bathroom were disgusting.

ToadRage · Today 18:12

Witchonenowbob · Today 18:07

He’s not living with her!

Why was she even there then? She should not have been factored in the decision. He needs to grow a pair and tell his gf that his Mum needs to come in.

Witchonenowbob · Today 18:17

ToadRage · Today 18:12

Why was she even there then? She should not have been factored in the decision. He needs to grow a pair and tell his gf that his Mum needs to come in.

She was just visiting and I absolutely agree with you!

Namechangerage · Today 18:18

zoovo · Today 16:53

He doesn’t keep on top of the general cleaning well and is always happy and grateful for me helping out with this. As guarantor to this property I do feel obliged to help keep it reasonably clean and he does have regular landlord inspections. His Gf lives in her own apartment and I don’t expect her to do any cleaning.

I’d be telling him if he would leave me to piss myself in the street rather than open his door, I’d no longer be guarantor, seriously!!

TheHouse · Today 18:25

It’s probably a boyfriend….

McrWife · Today 18:28

He crimped one off earlier and hasn’t cleaned up the toilet which is in an absolute state after the almighty shit he took.

SeaGlassDreamer · Today 18:37

How do people with anxiety this bad even get themselves into a relationship when they are scared of people so much.

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