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Son wouldn’t let me use his loo !

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zoovo · Today 09:05

I visited my 23 yr old Son over the weekend. I live 2.5hrs from him. Parked on his driveway and we headed straight out to lunch, shops etc. At the end of my visit I said I will use your loo before I leave and he said I couldn’t. Apparently his GF was in his home and she wasn’t ready to meet me due to anxiety. I said I only need a wee, I actually thought he was joking but he wasn’t. I left close to tears that he would do this to me. So I just left. I found a garden centre 25min into my journey home to stop off at. I’m still in disbelief that he treated me this way. I’m really hurt by this. I do have some medical issues at times which mean sometimes I really do need the loo urgently and he knows this. On this occasion it wasn’t to urgent but he didn’t know that. I don’t know how to move forward from this. Am I being unreasonable to feel so upset by this?

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ginasevern · Today 15:49

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 15:44

Actually they do - once they move out it’s their life.

Christ, you sound like hard work.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · Today 15:49

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How is it harder to tell the OP that than to blame her anxiety?

Things like that are a stretch. And even if she did, so what? It's not her house. She shouldn't get to dictate who can and can't be invited in.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 15:51

ginasevern · Today 15:49

Christ, you sound like hard work.

Because I understand what an independent adult is and that it’s up to them what they do? Okay then

Liberancho · Today 15:55

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 15:46

Actually I haven’t. She said the house was disgusting. Now, do you not think that her son would be able to pick up on how she felt?

You have. You referenced your own parents making comments years ago.

The OP, has done what thousands have parents have done, including me, and my own mother before me, and that is clean up our kids filth.

It really isn't as weighted as you keep insisting it is Livia.

Some of us have healthy relationships with our parents and kids and within that is us stepping in to help out and clean for them.

My mother and I laugh at my horror over dd20's bathroom, my dd also laughs when my dm shares the state of my student halls and first flat. I am fully cured by age and having a family of my own. But I loved my mother cleaning up for me, I never once denied her the use of my toilet because she had previously called me stinky Sarah.

The reaching and assumptions are just that. The OP has said her son had no issue and I imagine he really really didn't. 23 year old men aren't that easily offended.

ginasevern · Today 15:56

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 15:51

Because I understand what an independent adult is and that it’s up to them what they do? Okay then

Independent adults don't usually refuse to let their mum have a 2 minute wee in their loo. But if that's how your world works, then crack on. It's far from normal behaviour as you can see from the vast majority of replies on this thread. But you do you hun.

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · Today 15:58

LakieLady · Today 15:41

😂

I'm afraid I now need to know how she phrases the question, ie does she use "builders' speak" and, if not, what euphemisms she uses!

My BIL has a building company and he always hires a portaloo for his guys to use. He says the expense is worth it because it avoids a lot of hassle.

It was her decorator that told me, and he did find it quite endearing rather than unpleasant (or at least that's how he told me the story!).

He asked if he could use the loo, she just came straight out and said if it was for a lengthy visit she'd ask him to go to the public conveniences.

Of course I asked her about it, and she said it's right and she tells anyone other than a select few the same.

It's a good job she's such a cute little old lady who provides lots of refreshments and pays well or jobs would never get finished 😄

Witchonenowbob · Today 16:01

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 15:51

Because I understand what an independent adult is and that it’s up to them what they do? Okay then

Independent adults don’t live in disgusting filth!

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 16:02

Witchonenowbob · Today 16:01

Independent adults don’t live in disgusting filth!

Some of them do, you know.

Witchonenowbob · Today 16:03

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 14:56

You think the son should leave his girlfriend????

The girlfriend doesn’t live there. And he’s perfectly capable, if unwilling, to put on a pair of Marigolds.

You really cannot accept the GF was at fault here can you? Everyone’s fault apart from the actuap
persons it is!

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 16:07

Liberancho · Today 15:55

You have. You referenced your own parents making comments years ago.

The OP, has done what thousands have parents have done, including me, and my own mother before me, and that is clean up our kids filth.

It really isn't as weighted as you keep insisting it is Livia.

Some of us have healthy relationships with our parents and kids and within that is us stepping in to help out and clean for them.

My mother and I laugh at my horror over dd20's bathroom, my dd also laughs when my dm shares the state of my student halls and first flat. I am fully cured by age and having a family of my own. But I loved my mother cleaning up for me, I never once denied her the use of my toilet because she had previously called me stinky Sarah.

The reaching and assumptions are just that. The OP has said her son had no issue and I imagine he really really didn't. 23 year old men aren't that easily offended.

yes I mentioned that it was anxiety inducing, partly because of my ND.

Personally I think that unless asked you shouldnt intrude on the space of others but I get some people don’t respect boundaries.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 16:08

Witchonenowbob · Today 16:03

You really cannot accept the GF was at fault here can you? Everyone’s fault apart from the actuap
persons it is!

Oh okay it’s her fault for not cleaning a house when not living here, for apparently not wanting OP to come in (according to the DS) and apparently for having anxiety. If it’s a shithole why is that her fault?

Sorted.

ForCosyLion · Today 16:08

Utterly ridiculous and unacceptable. I'd have said "I am GOING to the loo!" and then pushed past him, gone in and locked the door, and had a wee. That's the only thing to do when someone is so completely unreasonable.

Oh, wait. I thought the OP was already in the house, as in they were sitting in the living room and he told her that she couldn't move from one room to another. Still crap of him, though.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 16:09

ForCosyLion · Today 16:08

Utterly ridiculous and unacceptable. I'd have said "I am GOING to the loo!" and then pushed past him, gone in and locked the door, and had a wee. That's the only thing to do when someone is so completely unreasonable.

Oh, wait. I thought the OP was already in the house, as in they were sitting in the living room and he told her that she couldn't move from one room to another. Still crap of him, though.

Edited

Yeah, forcing your way into someone’s home is always reasonable 🤣

Witchonenowbob · Today 16:10

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 16:08

Oh okay it’s her fault for not cleaning a house when not living here, for apparently not wanting OP to come in (according to the DS) and apparently for having anxiety. If it’s a shithole why is that her fault?

Sorted.

Don’t be silly and defensive, I never said she should clean her he house. She should not force her boundaries when in other peoples homes, because it causes issues like this!

OP is upset with her son for not taking her needs and medical situation into account. Quite rightly she’s upset.

Coconutter24 · Today 16:10

Anonymouseposter · Today 14:56

She hasn’t said anywhere that she has made snarky comments. She thought the bathroom was disgusting and cleaned it but she doesn’t say she actually said anything. If it’s that bad the son and his girlfriend will know without her saying anything.

That’s what I thought, OP hasn’t admitted anything like that

ForCosyLion · Today 16:11

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 16:09

Yeah, forcing your way into someone’s home is always reasonable 🤣

Edited - I thought they were already socialising inside the house.

Witchonenowbob · Today 16:12

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 16:08

Oh okay it’s her fault for not cleaning a house when not living here, for apparently not wanting OP to come in (according to the DS) and apparently for having anxiety. If it’s a shithole why is that her fault?

Sorted.

Well if you’re not going to believe the situation, decide it’s it’s not true, because you’ve decided what had actually happened, not much point in commenting on the thread?

Liberancho · Today 16:15

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 16:07

yes I mentioned that it was anxiety inducing, partly because of my ND.

Personally I think that unless asked you shouldnt intrude on the space of others but I get some people don’t respect boundaries.

Your insistence and imagination makes no difference to me. But I imagine that IRL you are hard work and very inflexible.

Boomer55 · Today 16:17

That sounds totally weird - bot from your son and his GF. 🙄

GingerdeadMan · Today 16:23

It is upsetting when family members don't take medical conditions seriously so I can understand your upset.

However, most people are just not very empathetic so struggle to really 'get it' with something they themselves haven't experienced so you're son might just not understand that when you gotta go, you gotta go!

GF issue does sound like an excuse though, especially as it's not even her home she was just staying over.

GingerdeadMan · Today 16:24

Liberancho · Today 16:15

Your insistence and imagination makes no difference to me. But I imagine that IRL you are hard work and very inflexible.

This poster is indeed hard work. I can attest from previous threads.

Bit of a contrarian.

BreezyMintHiker · Today 16:24

MousseMousse · Today 09:08

Painting a girlfriend as crazy is a horrible thing to do @Oddlyfull

Op yanbu, very unkind of your son

Sorry but if she’s unable to cope with her boyfriend’s mother being in the same house in a separate room for the time it takes to have a wee, she’s crazy as a bedbug.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Today 16:31

Liberancho · Today 16:15

Your insistence and imagination makes no difference to me. But I imagine that IRL you are hard work and very inflexible.

Yup. 👍

Monthlymonster · Today 16:35

I bet it was just messy/dirty

Thatsalineallright · Today 16:38

I wouldn't be able to just sweep this under the rug. I would expect a full, sincere apology from DS before moving on.

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