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AIBU for stopping a nice Muslim girl from showing my son her hair?

179 replies

BeSpoonyRedCat · Yesterday 22:46

It was on Monday after school, 10 year old DS, a very traditional 10 year old Muslim girl, and another 10 year old girl from my son's school were in the living room.

DS asked to see the Muslim girl's hair and she was actually about to show him. I stopped her, nothing dramatic. I basically said no sweetie, don't do that. I wasn't loud. Both girls looked like they wanted to laugh while my son looked annoyed. After I finished dropping the girls home, my son was all moody.

Yesterday he was still moody and I asked why he's upset. He basically explained that the Muslim girl doesn't show any other kid her hair. I said there's a reason for that. And I'm thankful my son didn't ask me the reason because I actually don't know.

From my perspective, I was being a responsible adult with my son and 2 girls under my supervision. I don't know the ramifications of that little girl showing my son her hair. I don't know if her parents would have been upset with her. I don't know if her parents would have banned my son from being friends with her. But I'm still wondering if I was dramatic.

Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 05:50

ExtraOnions · Yesterday 22:52

10 year old children being made to cover up, to stop men from looking at their hair, for fear that they may be overwhelmed with impure thoughts.

What sort of horse-shit is this ?

If it's her cultural norm, then it's not for you to judge.

CurlewKate · Today 06:15

Hmm. A bit surprising that she’s covering her hair so young-but you were right to approach this with caution. I mean-you wouldn’t feed a culturally vegetarian child meat, would you?

NoisyHiker · Today 06:16

CaribbeanChaos · Yesterday 22:51

Well done on protecting the little girl.

From what?

Freedom of choice?

Don't worry, her parents are already doing that.

ClairDeLaLune · Today 06:17

She could have been in trouble with her parents if she’d done it, so I think you did the right thing OP. She could always ask her parents if it’s ok and show him next time they play. Whether we agree with it or not, it isn’t our place to force our views onto 10 year olds from other cultures.

CurlewKate · Today 06:25

NoisyHiker · Today 06:16

From what?

Freedom of choice?

Don't worry, her parents are already doing that.

Would you give a visiting vegetarian child meat?

loislovesstewie · Today 06:26

A 'nice' Muslim girl? Could you read that comment again, please?

loislovesstewie · Today 06:29

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 05:50

If it's her cultural norm, then it's not for you to judge.

No, we didn't used to judge arranged/forced marriage and FGM because that was their culture. And in the past we didn't oppose sati, because that was a cultural practice.

LemonTyger · Today 06:29

I’m not religious and I wouldn’t even let my 10 year old girl go to a 10 year olds boys house without my being present and a ban on going upstairs.
I’m confused as to why they’d let her, since they’re strict enough that she’s wearing a head covering. It makes me think parents aren’t into it, or the girl has learnt about being Muslim at school and decided to give it a whirl?

allchange5 · Today 06:32

As if this actually happened.. Ridiculous threads on here.

TheCurious0range · Today 06:32

There are two different things at play here and lots of posters are conflating them.
The first is whether or not women and girls should feel the need to cover their hair for religious reasons. Personally I think no but they do.
The second is whether or not OPs son was ok to ask her to remove her head covering, the answer to that is also no. I live in an area with an orthodox Jewish community and it wouldn't be appropriate to ask a male to remove his kippah/yarmulke.
It's not OPs job to overrule the parents of a ten year old unless the child is in danger. You'll see other threads where MILs are castigated for giving DC sweets against the wishes of parents but suddenly it's ok for OP to stand back and knowingly allow a child to go against the religious wishes of her parents.

The only thing I would've done differently OP is to challenge your son and not the girl. DS do not ask anyone to remove a religious covering. They are worn for reasons that align with people's faith.

LemonTyger · Today 06:34

Also agree with comments about how it’s bullshit a young girl (or older girl, or woman) has to cover her hair incase a boy or man is tempted be her. I think if they live in Britain, girls should be protected from this misogynistic crap. I don’t really care if it’s misogyny on religious or cultural grounds really, I’m against it across the board, do people who think it is ok think FGM is ok on these grounds?

cannynotsay · Today 06:36

You did the right thing. He knows now not to ask girls to remove parts of their clothing. She knows she doesn’t have to show parts of her body because she’s asked. Peoples reactions are just because it’s a head scarf.

NoisyHiker · Today 06:37

CurlewKate · Today 06:25

Would you give a visiting vegetarian child meat?

If they asked for it, then yes.

Because if they are asking then that means they are being forced by parents. They have no intrinsic motivation or reasoning for it, and no personal choice in the matter, or they would not want to do/have it.

PollyBell · Today 06:39

CurlewKate · Today 06:25

Would you give a visiting vegetarian child meat?

Isnt it up t the child what they want to eat, and no I would not feed peanuts to a chils allergic but I would them them choose same as my child could choose at someone else's place

Likeabirdjoyfully · Today 06:42

This is a very strange place to ask this question. If you want to find out what is acceptable for a 10 year old Muslim girl, do some research in your local Muslim community.

FlyingApple · Today 06:44

Why would you do that? It's not up to you at all, it's up to her.

TheNeverEndingOver · Today 06:44

BeSpoonyRedCat · Today 00:36

My son said that this girl doesn't show any other kid her hair. If she's that strict about it, there must be a reason.

why are you even asking if you’ve made up your mind? this isn’t an aibu. virtue signalling

Butthatsmyname · Today 06:45

Evidemment · Today 02:34

All the hand wringing comments in this thread are hilarious when you realise there is absolutely no way that there exists a muslim family intense enough in their values that their 10 year old is already in a hijab.. but they're OK with her going to a male friend's house unaccompanied.

This whole scenario collapses immediately.

I was thinking the same thing. Wearing a head covering at that age and allowed to go to a non Muslim house to play with a boy?? Very, very unusual

eurochick · Today 06:45

The enforcers of misogyny are so often women. Slow handclap for the OP for joining their ranks.

FlyingApple · Today 06:47

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · Yesterday 23:16

If her parents found out about this the girl would be in a great deal of trouble.

Oh well that's perfectly normal, not something child services should look into at all...

AuntChippy · Today 06:48

Evidemment · Today 02:34

All the hand wringing comments in this thread are hilarious when you realise there is absolutely no way that there exists a muslim family intense enough in their values that their 10 year old is already in a hijab.. but they're OK with her going to a male friend's house unaccompanied.

This whole scenario collapses immediately.

This is exactly what I’m thinking.

Very fishy.

BackToLurk · Today 06:49

allchange5 · Today 06:32

As if this actually happened.. Ridiculous threads on here.

Some of them scream ‘there are elections coming up’.

thefloorislavayes · Today 06:51

And you’re so proud of yourself for stopping a 10-year-old from showing her hair that you felt the need to share it with everyone. I’d be more impressed if you questioned why a child that age is expected to cover it in the first place.

Hagr1d · Today 06:51

Trint · Yesterday 23:18

There is no command in the Qur’an to wear a head covering, simply a command for both men and women to dress modestly. It is a cultural thing for women to cover their heads usually done in Muslim societies to curtail the freedom of women. It is a mediaeval practice common in most countries in the Middle Ages. Islam was very keen on the emancipation of women when it was founded. It has become so restrictive in many countries towards women. This is not Islamic.

She has the right to make the decision for herself.

Are you a Muslim?

Tontostitis · Today 06:54

pinkyredrose · Yesterday 22:52

Huh?

Imply all Muslims are violent child beaters? Or that showing her hair imperils her soul? Racist or sexist

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