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DH has reneged on post nup he had promised (pre marriage) he would enter into to protect family inheritance

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mamato3rascals · 14/04/2026 21:56

Before we got married c 8 years ago, I had said to my DH (financè at the time) that I’d want a pre nup to protect a significant family business, and other inherited assets, that would likely be passed down to me. The value of the inheritance will be significant and so with my sensible hat on I am keen to protect that in any way I can.

For a number of reasons that prenup wasn’t entered into before we married, but he discussed with my Dad and gave him his word (and he did likewise with me) that he’d enter into it in future before any interest passed to me as part of the family’s estate planning. This has been looming a while but we are now at the time where this needs sorting. I have tried and tried to speak to my DH but he is always busy (though I am the main breadwinner, by some way…), explains his fear that I’ll take the family house off him (the post nup leaves the entire family home to him exclusively - valued at £900k and minimal mortgage) and leaves me with a small property rental and ensures that any interest in the family’s wealth remains my asset).

He is so apprehensive about entering into it that he called my dad outright a couple of weeks ago and asked him what he was expecting my DH to do. This is something I’m driving because (a) we are in a bad place and have been for a few years and (b) I can’t bury my head any more and need this sorted. My father was cross at the phone call as he was caught off guard, and on reflection why such reluctance now to discuss with Dad - when he left it years ago on the basis he’d sign something.

He won’t discuss it with me, when I go into his office at night to ask whether he will engage with me on it he tells me to get out, he is exhausted and doesn’t have time to talk about it let alone look for a solicitor that will advise him on it (I’ll pay all of those fees) and ends up putting noise cancelling headphones on with music blaring until I go out. If I stay there he says that he will lock his office door so he is left in peace.

I am at my wits end and had always said to myself that I can put up with his treatment at home (the above being an example) but am so concerned that this is the final nail in the coffin of my marriage (3 young DC under 7, one of which is extremely anxious and constantly worried so I don’t know what a separation would do to her).

If I were to bring our divorce papers I am almost certain he would start to engage - but what concerns me is these post nups are only valid for 5 years and need to be kept under review every 5 years. If he won’t engage now then god help me in 5 years’ time again.

Please be kind as I am worried sick but appreciate any advice. I’ve even considered initiating a divorce for purely financial separation whilst continuing to live long term under the same roof - I am willing to give the marriage everything I have got but the financial worry I am carrying is killing me. I think he expects that he will fail to engage and it will all go away because I’ll get bored of chasing him but fundamentally this is such a U turn from what he promised me before we got married that I am not sure I could ever get over it.

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SaySomethingMan · 28/10/2026 16:39

Please advocate for your daughter and protect her from being emotionally abused by him. Call him out firmly each time. Poor girl.
She needs to also be assured that it’s not her responsibility to talk you two out of it. There’s nothing she has done or can do. The decision is based solely on mummy and daddy.

Tableforjoan · 28/10/2026 16:50

Agree with the pp and your mother.

Don’t give in and remind her that he is an adult and just like when she and her siblings are with daddy and your alone it’s ok because your a grown up and it’s ok for grown ups to be alone. That she doesn’t need to worry about you or daddy like that because you are grown ups.

CareerHelpAt53 · 28/10/2026 16:59

mamato3rascals · 28/10/2026 14:39

This advice is all so helpful, thank you so much. It’s so hard. What would you do if she asks tonight to go back to sleep in Daddy’s house because she doesn’t want to be in the house? I can see that coming later.

The episode with him crying this morning happened in front of me at his house. He’s been away with them for a few days and so because of that DD1 has been showered with all his time and love. It’ll all change next week when he goes back to work, but I’m conscious that tonight she’ll say she feels sorry for him on his own in his house (having just been away with him for 5n). My mum says I shouldn’t let her go because she’ll then know she can always switch as she wishes. I just feel so cruel.

Boundaries, boundaries, boundaries…
Simply tell her no.

all your children will be happier when you enforce clear boundaries - she is too young to decide she’s sleeping elsewhere.

I repeat what I said before - she is still a baby making babyish choices - it is your responsibility to make the most appropriate choices for her.

it is of course also her father’s responsibility but you know how that goes… so you need to be even more clear and boundaried with your children to compensate for his failure to parent appropriately.

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CareerHelpAt53 · 28/10/2026 17:02

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 28/10/2026 15:55

"I just feel so cruel."

OP, for your daughter's mental and emotional health, you urgently need to reframe this as "HE is being so cruel."

He is 100% instrumentalising her to get at YOU. You are the true object of his machinations.

You feeling like YOU are the one being cruel is EXACTLY what he wants, and he no doubt knows that he's getting to you by the expression on your face and your behaviour towards your daughter. You are (inadvertently) rewarding his horrid behaviour.

You must remove the reward he's getting, otherwise he WILL 100% keep doing this to DD.

Imv, the way to remove the reward and shut this rubbish down is to:

  1. Send him a calm cold email/text that he is instrumentalising DD and it is inappropriate to bring a vulnerable child into adult matters.
  2. Talk to DD about this, that her father is an adult and able to look after himself, and she is not responsible for him*
  3. Next time he behaves like this with DD, say calmly, "Please stop instrumentalising our child" in FRONT of her*. Then end the encounter.
  4. Then, every time he does it, say, "This is instrumentalising our child. I am noting this". Stay flat and cold and end the encounter.
  5. Prevent him getting anywhere near you so that he can expose DD to this shit.

You need to reframe this for yourself - HE is being cruel to DD. Get fierce. He's a horrendous POS, you need to protect your DD from him.

And please get her counseling. She needs external support to navigate this.

*eg "My darling, I need to tell you something very important, and I want you to listen closely. It is really very kind of you to want to help and try to make things better between Mummy and Daddy. But you are the child, and we are the grownups. It is not your job to fix Daddy or change how he talks, that's his job. It's not your job to make me happy either, that's my job. It's also our job, us grownups, to take care of you and the boys. You're 8 years old, your only job is to go to school, play, and let us take care of you.

Sometimes grownups feel very sad or upset when big changes happen, and they might express that around you. It’s okay for people to feel sad, but if Daddy seems sad when you leave his house, I want you to remember: Daddy is an adult. He has friends, family, and work colleagues to help him when he feels sad. You don't need to stay with him to keep him company or save him from feeling lonely. He will be okay."

All of this

Zerosleep · 28/10/2026 18:00

ItsOkItsDarkChocolate · 28/10/2026 15:23

@mamato3rascals

This.

Exactly this

BlueMum16 · 28/10/2026 18:22

Do not let her go.

Daddy will be fine. Just how mummy has been for the last 5 nights. You'll see him....

I presume she doesn't have a phone yet so he has no way to contact her?

When he was away did you have daily/nightly calls to them? If not, don't allow him one now

Make tonight about them and settling in, spending time with you and being loved

You've got this

spanishcheese · 28/10/2026 18:39

Can the assets be put into a Trust with you as beneficiary so even if you divorce down the line he has no access to the assets?

Cherrysoup · 28/10/2026 18:53

mamato3rascals · 28/10/2026 10:55

Hello, eldest is continuing to struggle. STBXH also playing the situation slightly, when DD has been sobbing, he hugs her tightly whilst also sobbing himself. He whispers at me “look at what you’re doing” whilst he’s hugging her. I keep telling her that she is so so loved, it just means a change in routine. Now is the hardest time but she needs to trust me it’ll get better. None of what I say seems to be giving her any comfort. She’s seen what’s been happening at home for wo long so I have now said (to help her try to understand the situation) that mummy has to do this because she has been sad for so long and mummy deserves to be happy too. She asks me to not make my decision yet and can she have some time to persuade daddy to stop speaking to me like he has been doing because she thinks daddy will listen to her.
Little two are fine. It is so heartbreaking. Am I saying the right things?! If anyone has any tips of how to help her manage things/ good little phrases to use that would be great.

I am going to speak to school so they know what’s happening and also look at a counselling for her. It’s so hard seeing her so upset.

Christ, he’s a manipulative wanker, isn’t he?! I would remind him that parental alienation, which is effectively what he’s doing, will not look good in a divorce. He’s behaving disgracefully. Ignore his shenanigans, he can’t help himself, can he? Do you think he’s bipolar?

Keep on keeping on as my mother would say. Your dd isn’t stupid, she can understand how awful he’s being.

Bridgertonisbest · 28/10/2026 19:39

mamato3rascals · 28/10/2026 14:39

This advice is all so helpful, thank you so much. It’s so hard. What would you do if she asks tonight to go back to sleep in Daddy’s house because she doesn’t want to be in the house? I can see that coming later.

The episode with him crying this morning happened in front of me at his house. He’s been away with them for a few days and so because of that DD1 has been showered with all his time and love. It’ll all change next week when he goes back to work, but I’m conscious that tonight she’ll say she feels sorry for him on his own in his house (having just been away with him for 5n). My mum says I shouldn’t let her go because she’ll then know she can always switch as she wishes. I just feel so cruel.

Their father is a manipulative arsehole and your daughter needs to understand that its not her job to stop him being sad.

Him sobbing in front of her is absolutely dreadful behaviour, the further away from him the better she will be. I'd look into some therapy for her, with a father like that she's going to need it at some point!

Thank God you've left!

Daftapath · 28/10/2026 19:45

Your poor dd. He is being so manipulative. I can’t remember if you said that she is already having counselling. If she isn’t, it would be good to arrange some now. Let the counsellor know how your xh is treating her and using her, so they can talk to her about it. She needs to understand that it not her job to parent him. You need to model this and let her know that he is an adult and will be fine on his own, just as you are.

My dd was early secondary age when I separated from her dad. She had counselling and it turned out that she felt that she had to see her dad in order to keep him happy so that he didn’t then abuse me. I (and the counsellors) made it very clear to her that it was not her responsibility to protect me. It was my (and her dad’s) job to protect her and she should only see her dad because she wanted to. Years later now, she has very little to do with him. It’s sad but her own choice. Obviously he blames me but I don’t care what he has to say. I have tried my best to never say anything negative to her about him 🤷🏼‍♀️

spanishcheese · 28/10/2026 22:07

mamato3rascals · 13/09/2026 14:04

Agree on kids out of house and ideally doing it quietly if I can. Difficulty is he has Ring security cameras overlooking the front yard/ driveway to which I don’t have access so I’m not sure how I navigate those so he doesn’t see what’s going on for the day!

Turn the wifi off

DemonsRocks · 28/10/2026 22:53

Poor kid, this should not be on her at all. She should be protected from what is happening between two adults.

Ponderingwindow · 28/10/2026 23:40

Explain to her that the adults are responsible for taking care of the children. Children should care about their parents, but are not responsible for parental emotions. She should not be trying to fix this. She can’t fix this.

You and her father are going to set up a schedule so that she gets to have time with both parents. If you trust him to follow the schedule, she is old enough to have access to the calendar.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 29/10/2026 00:47

LouiseMadetheBestBroccoliPasta · 28/10/2026 15:55

"I just feel so cruel."

OP, for your daughter's mental and emotional health, you urgently need to reframe this as "HE is being so cruel."

He is 100% instrumentalising her to get at YOU. You are the true object of his machinations.

You feeling like YOU are the one being cruel is EXACTLY what he wants, and he no doubt knows that he's getting to you by the expression on your face and your behaviour towards your daughter. You are (inadvertently) rewarding his horrid behaviour.

You must remove the reward he's getting, otherwise he WILL 100% keep doing this to DD.

Imv, the way to remove the reward and shut this rubbish down is to:

  1. Send him a calm cold email/text that he is instrumentalising DD and it is inappropriate to bring a vulnerable child into adult matters.
  2. Talk to DD about this, that her father is an adult and able to look after himself, and she is not responsible for him*
  3. Next time he behaves like this with DD, say calmly, "Please stop instrumentalising our child" in FRONT of her*. Then end the encounter.
  4. Then, every time he does it, say, "This is instrumentalising our child. I am noting this". Stay flat and cold and end the encounter.
  5. Prevent him getting anywhere near you so that he can expose DD to this shit.

You need to reframe this for yourself - HE is being cruel to DD. Get fierce. He's a horrendous POS, you need to protect your DD from him.

And please get her counseling. She needs external support to navigate this.

*eg "My darling, I need to tell you something very important, and I want you to listen closely. It is really very kind of you to want to help and try to make things better between Mummy and Daddy. But you are the child, and we are the grownups. It is not your job to fix Daddy or change how he talks, that's his job. It's not your job to make me happy either, that's my job. It's also our job, us grownups, to take care of you and the boys. You're 8 years old, your only job is to go to school, play, and let us take care of you.

Sometimes grownups feel very sad or upset when big changes happen, and they might express that around you. It’s okay for people to feel sad, but if Daddy seems sad when you leave his house, I want you to remember: Daddy is an adult. He has friends, family, and work colleagues to help him when he feels sad. You don't need to stay with him to keep him company or save him from feeling lonely. He will be okay."

This excellent advice @mamato3rascals

I also agree with @Hailstoness, @SaySomethingMan and @Tableforjoan

Listen to your Mum too. She's absolutely right. Don't let DD go back tonight.

Could your mum also explain this to your DD, as another person that your DD loves and trusts. have a chat with her about it.

You could also say to DD you've had five days with Daddy, and will see him again very soon. he will be fine. He's got loads of people to cheer him up and it means he can go out for the evening. I would really like us to spend some time together tonight as I settle in. What would you like for dinner.

Set up a routine so things start to seem normal and expected. One pp had a great idea about the calendar. Early days OP. Step by Step, but stand firm that she needs to stay with you tonight.

Also @Zerosleep's good advice about doing what you are comfortable with in terms of contact.

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