Now that America are the baddies what sort of world order are we going for

[CurdinHenry]

Surely we can drum up something positive

One step closer now that Orban's been kicked out.

Is your suggestion that everyone else in the region should as you so charmingly put it “lay down and die”? What about no one kills hurts or maims anyone else? Is it so hard just to accept this bombing is wrong?

No. My suggestion is not to start it. Clearly.

Maybe you can explain in very very simple terms then what you mean with your comment.

In a tiny nutshell on the multiverses of history in the Middle East Hezbollah terrorists are using civilian homes inside Lebanon to launch their missiles and rockets toward Israel.

Then the world is surprised why Israel is destroying houses in Lebanon?

Same tactic Hamas used in Gaza, by the way.

Yep...they just had Hollywood for propaganda.... like how they won ww2, the Native Americans were evil and how they actually won in Vietnam...

Didn't Germany try that one?

It is not just houses that Israel is destroying in Lebanon

Hence my question if that justifies killing civilians

Hamas attacks and then hides behind civilians.
Israel targets only terrorists. If civilians get hurt it's because Hamas terrorists used them as human shields.

Israel isn't targetting only terrorist, that much is obvious. Just watch the news.

Civilians as collateral damage is acceptable for you?

@TopPocketFind

In fact the IDF arranged safe zones.

The IDF targets militants that hide behind and among civilians, using them as human shields.

Unlike Hamas who deliberately target civilians. Do you know what they did to those beautiful girls at the Nova music festival on October 7th?

What news are you watching?

@Mistyglade I think supporting Israel killing civilians especially children is disgusting. If you don’t I think you have become the monster.

If you’re supporting Hamas and Hezbollah, who declared war on October 7th against Israel to try yet again to destroy the Jewish state what are you?

Hamas and the media relentlessly push the claim that Gaza deaths are mostly ‘women and children’. This is an age-old tactic, the oldest trick in the propaganda playbook. It’s designed to evoke outrage and cast Israel as a ruthless aggressor.

Several studies have been conducted which revealed that certain news outlets tend to heavily favour Gaza’s perspective, emphasising Hamas’ statistics while downplaying Israel’s side of the story.

The most notable and recent example of this involves the BBC. It was not only found to report disproportionately in Gaza’s favour, citing statistics directly from Hamas, but also went so far as to publish a documentary that was later withdrawn due to its significant disinformation and exaggeration regarding the suffering of children in Gaza.

Do you know the number of kids Iranian middles have killed in the last 2 days?

@Mistyglade So your considered opinion is that tens of thousands of civilians haven’t been killed and maimed by the idf?

What was done to those young people was utterly disgusting.

What Israel is doing is also disgusting. Netanyahu is a maniac, like his pal Trump.

OP are you cheering for Russia or China then as your new Good Guys? Wee side order of Iran?

Imagine celebrating the "moral clarity" of a hugely corrupt, serial sex offender and probable pedophile.

Just disgusting.

Thinking America has had its reputation completely blown at the hands of Trump & co. doesn't equal support for Iran or China or Russia.

Ofcourse I know what happened on Oct 7th

it doesn't justify what Israel is doing in Gaza and now Lebanon.
But you seem to think it does.

And I watch all kind of news channels, national and international. What are you watching if you haven't seen the civilians being killed in Lebanon or Israel admitting they killed the wrong person and innocents near him?

I don’t have a ‘considered opinion’ of this war. You can continue trying to goad me into saying something despicable like a cheap tabloid journalist would or you could answer one of my many questions.

Maybe, maybe not...

We're fucked without the EU. Thanks Brexit-voters.

Or you could answer any of mine. If you genuinely are fine with the shear horror of human suffering that Israel has inflicted on the civilian populations of the Middle East I’m not sure why you would feel the need to pretend it didn’t happen.