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Now that America are the baddies what sort of world order are we going for

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CurdinHenry · 12/04/2026 19:44

Surely we can drum up something positive

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 13/04/2026 13:10

TooBigForMyBoots · 13/04/2026 11:29

Trump isn't happy with the pope. He prefers the pope's brother. But Trump doesn't need the pope. He's entered the stage of dementia where he believes he is god.🤦‍♀️

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-pope-leo-truth-social-b2956378.html

Trump proves himself to be a nutcase once again. He’s worse than a teenager for social media. How can he expect anyone to respect him or take him seriously.

DdraigGoch · 13/04/2026 13:27

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 04:31

Hahaha and yet we're starting to see results and even many EU leaders have admitted that he is right the EU needs to step up and pay it's share

And the serial bankrupt is way more successful that you will ever be and he became the president of the US despite everything the Democrats threw at him after Biden came into office.

I would take the economic changes in the USA anytime any day over the economic situation in the UK where the priority is which benefits should we cut or increase. Wages have stagnated for so long and there's barely any difference between minimum wage and professional wages anymore. Ambition is now driven by how much extra benefits can I get to prop up my low wage job.

I'm seeing many Brits moving to the USA to create jobs and open businesses etc while the UK fights over 2 child benefit cap or not. Enjoy your decline.

Blanket tariffs led to wall street crash yet wall street hasn't crashed and many many companies have started spending to bring manufacturing into the US but according to you it's just unicorns 😂 I will take the unicorns while you get your benefit cap lifted and borrow to pay benefits. What a joke.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/us-manufacturing-domestic-tariffs/

And it's not only tariffs that are figuring companies, now they also realize the risk of depending on China. I would rather a US that fights than a UK that just lays there and plays possum to China. You've literally given up as are just managing your decline now.

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Successful? He was a nepo kid, he was born into half a billion dollars. His business activities theough the eighties and nineties were an absolute joke among New Yorkers, he could have put the money into a tracker and made more but instead he decided to blow most of it himself on bad investments. It got to the point where the only banks who would lend to him were Russian (no wonder he behaves as if he owes Vlad a favour).

Then someone offered him a gig on reality TV and suddenly the gullible people who think TV is real decide that he must be some kind of business guru. The board room had to be a set because the real one in Trump Tower was too dilapidated to use - he was an utter failure.

Of course now he's worth billions through dodgy activities like insider trading and rug pulls. I suppose Charles Ponzi was very "successful" in his time too. Trump is utterly corrupt and should be in prison for his many crimes except that in the US prison is only for poor people.

DdraigGoch · 13/04/2026 13:29

JulietteHasAGun · 13/04/2026 09:12

Everything is temporary and fluid. I imagine in 100 years if not earlier China will be the world leader

Most superpowers in history lasted a bit longer. Looks like the US won't even stay on top for a century

DdraigGoch · 13/04/2026 13:31

StandFirm · 13/04/2026 10:50

Vance will certainly not be an improvement.

He's an odious creature but at least he can't be any worse.

EstherGreenwood63 · 13/04/2026 13:35

Gosh there's a septic on here who is quite discombobulated by your OP, OP. 🤣 To quote them: ' ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hahhhhaaaaaaa'. Nowt queer as folk.

TopPocketFind · 13/04/2026 13:35

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 01:53

Obama frequently stated that as long as he was President, Iran would not obtain a nuclear weapon. He defined this as a non-negotiable national security objective, arguing that a nuclear Iran could fuel an arms race in the volatile Middle East and that Iran could potentially share nuclear material with non-state actors.

White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan presented President Biden with options for a potential U.S. attack on Iran's nuclear facilities if the Iranians move towards a nuclear weapon before Jan. 20, in a meeting several weeks ago that remained secret until now, three sources with knowledge of the issue tell Axios.

Here’s my message to Iran’s leaders,” former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said at a Brookings event today, “the United States will never allow you to acquire a nuclear weapon.”

Kamala Harris has consistently stated that Iran must never be allowed to acquire a nuclear weapon, describing the country as a dangerous and destabilizing force. While preferring diplomacy, she has asserted that "all options are on the table" to prevent a nuclear Iran and has affirmed an unwavering commitment to Israel's security.

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) has consistently stated that if Iran develops a nuclear weapon, Saudi Arabia will develop its own nuclear arsenal "as soon as possible" to maintain a balance of power in the Middle East.

Suddenly Trump is the baddie for attacking Iran despite repeated attempts to secure a nuclear weapon and sponsoring the attack that killed many Israelis and killing Iranian citizens protesting. What rubbish.

How quickly you all forget.

The fact that even other Middle Eastern countries support the US against Iran due to Iran continually destabilizing the region and attacking it's neighbors and sponsoring terrorists groups but according to you the Iranian regime are the goodies.

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Trump tore up the JCPOA

Trump bombed Iran and started a war

The regime is still in place and the strait of Hormuz is now closed

And now Trump portrays himself as Jesus

Funnywonder · 13/04/2026 13:37

When I learned about the WW2 bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as a child, the Americans always seemed like the baddies to me. You certainly don’t have to be the goodies to be in charge.

DdraigGoch · 13/04/2026 13:37

Ponoka7 · 13/04/2026 11:03

I'm still of the frame of mind how much we should do to defend cultures that have child marriage, to full adult men. We are horrified by the reproductive rights in the USA, but they are still decades ahead of the rights of girls (not even women) re child marriage/rape/birth/dying in childbirth/female circumcision in many societies. We ignore the killing if childrenor rather girls becauseof forced birth from the age they start their periods. It seems that there's a picking out of what is going right and wrong in certain countries/religions/cultures and ignoring what suits, to declare who the baddies are.

Child marriage very much goes on in some US states, acting as a get-out-of-jail-free card for adult men who rape young girls - sometimes as young as 12.

DdraigGoch · 13/04/2026 13:39

Ponoka7 · 13/04/2026 11:09

Has anyone asked the Pope his opinion? Or their local Iman. These religious people will sound crazy to non believers (of which I am one), but when you look at it from their pov, it makes sense. Some of the greatest amd most intelligent minds believe in life outside of Earth.

Have you seen that the administration is currently threatening the Vatican? The Pope has been very outspoken about the horrors the Trump administration are perpetrating.

JulietteHasAGun · 13/04/2026 13:43

DdraigGoch · 13/04/2026 13:27

Successful? He was a nepo kid, he was born into half a billion dollars. His business activities theough the eighties and nineties were an absolute joke among New Yorkers, he could have put the money into a tracker and made more but instead he decided to blow most of it himself on bad investments. It got to the point where the only banks who would lend to him were Russian (no wonder he behaves as if he owes Vlad a favour).

Then someone offered him a gig on reality TV and suddenly the gullible people who think TV is real decide that he must be some kind of business guru. The board room had to be a set because the real one in Trump Tower was too dilapidated to use - he was an utter failure.

Of course now he's worth billions through dodgy activities like insider trading and rug pulls. I suppose Charles Ponzi was very "successful" in his time too. Trump is utterly corrupt and should be in prison for his many crimes except that in the US prison is only for poor people.

have you seen the Iranian made AI Lego rap videos of Trump? All over TikTok. They’re hilarious and I think bang on the money about how crooked he is.

DdraigGoch · 13/04/2026 13:53

JulietteHasAGun · 13/04/2026 13:43

have you seen the Iranian made AI Lego rap videos of Trump? All over TikTok. They’re hilarious and I think bang on the money about how crooked he is.

I'm not on Tiktok.

I enjoy Puppet Regime on Youtube though.

Pugdogmom · 13/04/2026 13:55

DdraigGoch · 13/04/2026 03:43

Do kindly point to any poster who has referred to Iran as "the goodies".

It's possible for intelligent people to hate both Trump/Bibi and whoever is running Iran now. None of them have the best interests of the Iranian people at heart.

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Absolutely this!

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 13:55

This guy said it all, I can't stand all the liberal wokeists whose anger here is driven primarily by hatred of Trump not an understanding of what's going on at all

Even if Iranians are in support of the attacks but leftists in the UK and US say noooooooo he's a baddie.

www.instagram.com/reel/DWU2vVBjPdG/

Notonthestairs · 13/04/2026 13:57

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 13:55

This guy said it all, I can't stand all the liberal wokeists whose anger here is driven primarily by hatred of Trump not an understanding of what's going on at all

Even if Iranians are in support of the attacks but leftists in the UK and US say noooooooo he's a baddie.

www.instagram.com/reel/DWU2vVBjPdG/

And your views are less biased?

TopPocketFind · 13/04/2026 13:58

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 13:55

This guy said it all, I can't stand all the liberal wokeists whose anger here is driven primarily by hatred of Trump not an understanding of what's going on at all

Even if Iranians are in support of the attacks but leftists in the UK and US say noooooooo he's a baddie.

www.instagram.com/reel/DWU2vVBjPdG/

Trump threatened to commit genocide

Iranians are not in support of having their country bombed back to the stone Ages

Ablushingcrow · 13/04/2026 13:59

BrinkWomanship · 13/04/2026 00:29

Iran has not only stated it wants to destroy Israel, the US and the West, it has taken active steps to do so. It’s funded militias and terrorists in the Middle East and the west, provides oil and arms China and Russia, subjugates and massacres its own people, and was working towards having a nuclear bomb that it intended to use on Israel first. it announced this repeatedly. It had a clock in Tehran with a countdown until it destroyed Israel. These guys were not lying!

I know who the baddies are and it’s not Israel and the US.

Israel has shown us that it will work hard to survive (Iran is a literal existential threat to Israel) and the US also will do the same. We benefit from their actions.

Thank goodness they have the moral clarity to know right from wrong and the means and courage to enforce it.

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Absolutely agree 💯 %

TopPocketFind · 13/04/2026 14:03

Ablushingcrow · 13/04/2026 13:59

Absolutely agree 💯 %

What benefits from their actions do you see so far?

Golden407 · 13/04/2026 14:13

Tickingcrocodile · 13/04/2026 00:08

The other dominant powers are Russia and China - no thanks. All the more reason to try and strengthen our ties with the rest of Europe and the EU. Politically, socially and culturally we are far closer to most other European countries than to the US.

It’s a nice idea but just like us the rest of Europe is completely impotent in a military sense. Without the US, Europes foreign policy is going to be focused on placating Russia

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 14:32

TopPocketFind · 13/04/2026 13:58

Trump threatened to commit genocide

Iranians are not in support of having their country bombed back to the stone Ages

Hahahah genocide my ass and yet you praise the Iranian regime that forced women and children to surround assets to prevent them being bombed.

Trump threatened to commit genocide hey you give the Iranian regime who killed thousands of protestors just a couple of months ago a pass, what a bunch of hypocritical sanctimonious bullshit.

The US strikes have been targeted again military and regime leaders and military infrastructure compared to Iran who has been bombing airports and hotels and it's neighbours and don't get me started with all the many people killed by the Iranian regime in Israel etc and even British, American and Canadian citizens, all the chaos sowed through proxy terrorist organizations.

I've already shared quotes by literally every major leader saying Iran will never be allowed to own a nuclear weapon but now we all play the hypocritical game.

Goldenbear · 13/04/2026 14:32

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 13:55

This guy said it all, I can't stand all the liberal wokeists whose anger here is driven primarily by hatred of Trump not an understanding of what's going on at all

Even if Iranians are in support of the attacks but leftists in the UK and US say noooooooo he's a baddie.

www.instagram.com/reel/DWU2vVBjPdG/

The 'Leftists in the UK', I don't think it's only the Leftists that are worried about the damage to the world economy.

JaneFondue · 13/04/2026 14:33

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 14:32

Hahahah genocide my ass and yet you praise the Iranian regime that forced women and children to surround assets to prevent them being bombed.

Trump threatened to commit genocide hey you give the Iranian regime who killed thousands of protestors just a couple of months ago a pass, what a bunch of hypocritical sanctimonious bullshit.

The US strikes have been targeted again military and regime leaders and military infrastructure compared to Iran who has been bombing airports and hotels and it's neighbours and don't get me started with all the many people killed by the Iranian regime in Israel etc and even British, American and Canadian citizens, all the chaos sowed through proxy terrorist organizations.

I've already shared quotes by literally every major leader saying Iran will never be allowed to own a nuclear weapon but now we all play the hypocritical game.

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Can you show where anyone has praised the regime or the massacre of protestors?

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 14:36

JaneFondue · 13/04/2026 14:33

Can you show where anyone has praised the regime or the massacre of protestors?

Being against the US attacks and playing word games is supporting the fucking regime simple. you're more angry at Trump than all the atrocities committed by the regime.

Yes I am happy the bloody Ayatollah is fucking dead and I hope the US and Israel finish the job to prevent us having to deal with this again in a few years.

The fact that's every major middle eastern country supports the US and Israel should tell you how destabilizing Iran is for the region. And the bigger issue is countries like Saudi Arabia have made it clear that of Iran gets a nuclear weak so will they now imagine how volatile the region will be when you have multiple countries with nuclear weapons.

Anyahyacinth · 13/04/2026 14:38

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 14:32

Hahahah genocide my ass and yet you praise the Iranian regime that forced women and children to surround assets to prevent them being bombed.

Trump threatened to commit genocide hey you give the Iranian regime who killed thousands of protestors just a couple of months ago a pass, what a bunch of hypocritical sanctimonious bullshit.

The US strikes have been targeted again military and regime leaders and military infrastructure compared to Iran who has been bombing airports and hotels and it's neighbours and don't get me started with all the many people killed by the Iranian regime in Israel etc and even British, American and Canadian citizens, all the chaos sowed through proxy terrorist organizations.

I've already shared quotes by literally every major leader saying Iran will never be allowed to own a nuclear weapon but now we all play the hypocritical game.

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So summary execution is ok if we like the nationality of the people carrying it out? You’ve abandoned any justice, the Geneva Convention because your guys can do anything? 🤦‍♀️

sunnyafternoon2026 · 13/04/2026 14:39

BrinkWomanship · 13/04/2026 00:29

Iran has not only stated it wants to destroy Israel, the US and the West, it has taken active steps to do so. It’s funded militias and terrorists in the Middle East and the west, provides oil and arms China and Russia, subjugates and massacres its own people, and was working towards having a nuclear bomb that it intended to use on Israel first. it announced this repeatedly. It had a clock in Tehran with a countdown until it destroyed Israel. These guys were not lying!

I know who the baddies are and it’s not Israel and the US.

Israel has shown us that it will work hard to survive (Iran is a literal existential threat to Israel) and the US also will do the same. We benefit from their actions.

Thank goodness they have the moral clarity to know right from wrong and the means and courage to enforce it.

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100% this

JaneFondue · 13/04/2026 14:40

Ilovelifeverymuch · 13/04/2026 14:36

Being against the US attacks and playing word games is supporting the fucking regime simple. you're more angry at Trump than all the atrocities committed by the regime.

Yes I am happy the bloody Ayatollah is fucking dead and I hope the US and Israel finish the job to prevent us having to deal with this again in a few years.

The fact that's every major middle eastern country supports the US and Israel should tell you how destabilizing Iran is for the region. And the bigger issue is countries like Saudi Arabia have made it clear that of Iran gets a nuclear weak so will they now imagine how volatile the region will be when you have multiple countries with nuclear weapons.

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Oh. I see. Even though the 86- year- old Ayatollah has been replaced by a 56-year-old, even more hardline Ayatollah?

If you are against demented Trump playing Jesus, surely you must be in favour of demented Ayatollahs. Very logical.