Another child killed by a dog...

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Another poor child is killed by a dog.... We already know this is an XL Bully, don't even have to wait for confirmation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce35zkl9dg3o

We don't have "upticks" on MN.

I think one of the worst things about these dogs is that if you see one out in public you can't do anything about it. We were at the park recently and someone was walking one unleashed and unmuzzled. When sat this dog was easily bigger than my very tall five year old.

I can't say to the owner "oop this park requires dogs on leads" tinkly little laugh. The dog could literally bite my head off.

It is akin to caring a loaded weapon around with you. I would fully support a cull.

I think she's confusing Staffies with Pit Bulls. Staffies can attack, as can absolutely any breed.

Except for those killed in their home, which sadly seems to be the case here.

Still need to ban more of these dangerous breeds, though introducing muzzles may help

It's a popular suggestion among people who agree with you - what a surprise.
In the real world, 41% of UK households have a dog and the vast majority of them would be hugely opposed to compulsory muzzling. Any party that suggested this as part of their manifesto would lose the election.

Just replace the word dog with guns and you are in the US !

YABU OP to use a child's death to make a point about bullies.

We all know there is a problem. But there is no need to use another death - particularly that of a child - to hammer home your point. It's crass and needless.

And it's stupid because inevitably, it ends up with particularly stupid posts on this thread by people who know nothing about dogs, or about Bullies even, but who have read a few articles and think they are experts. Bully jaws do not lock. They do not go for the neck. Yes, they're horrible dogs, but let's not perpetuate misinformation.

A child is dead.

Perhaps instead of people on this thread using it to advance their own agenda, they could focus on the horrible fact a child died in appalling circumstances. But that would probably require a level of emotional intelligence and selflessness that is impossible to find on Mumsnet.

How is a dead child the starting point of a AIBU thread? Disgraceful.

Me too. We came into contact with one once on a public footpath and it was scary. The path was narrow and DC was only 4. The dog was on a lead but the owner (slim built woman) was straining to keep it under control when it lunged for passersby. She could easily become overpowered by it.

Why would anyone want these hideous dogs in the first place, if not go intimidate?

There has been no mention of the dog breed, it is ridiculous and extremely insensitive to speculate.

The last child to die was attacked by a dog that wasn’t an XL bully - does that make it better or worse?

Perhaps pretend to care about the poor child that has died and at least give it a couple of days before starting such an insensitive thread.

You are talking absolute rubbish, and I am willing to bet you cherry picked your alleged 'data'.

I agree. I'm all for culling XL bullies and possibly any pitbull types, but properly bred SBTs are pretty small.

Weights would roughly be, SBT 15kg, pit bull 30kg, XL up to 60kg.

Absolutely this!!

I am disgusted how someone can be so insensitive.

There is never a good time to discuss this, it seems. Either there has been no trouble recently so why should we care or its too close to another, yes ANOTHER, death by dog, so we should be respectful and not mention it.

Nonsense - you can do something about it. You could call 101 or report it to your local dog warden/council for starters.

The government would save an awful lot of heartbreak and money, if they culled the damn dogs, rather than imprisoning the owners when the dog has killed someone.

Who’ll do precisely fuck all with the information.

Speak for every local authority/constabulary in the country, do you?

@Lemonfrost report what exactly? If I ring up my council and say oh there is a random person with an XL bully walking down the street, I don't know who they are or where they live. What exactly do you think they will do?

In the same way that sometimes biological women domestically abuse their partners, not often hardly fucking ever, but sometimes according to all the men in the comments section after ANOTHER women or child is killed.

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Sounds like they were some sort of smaller bull breed but not an XL bully, according to witnesses: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/redcar-dog-attack-armed-police-

Horrific whatever the breed and I still can’t believe anybody would have a dog in the house with pre-school aged children. Just not worth the risk.

Well, you could start by giving a time, place and description. Plus, you said you were in a park, so that's a static and identifiable location. Dog owners tend to be creatures of habit when it comes to walks.

I’m going to guess they hoped that the hard-of-thinking would euthanise their own dogs as they’d realise they were less attached to them than their kids, unfortunately that hasnt happened.

No matter what the breed how very sad. It will likely be a breed that is problematic. Dogs bred originally for guarding, hunting, fighting. Not docile breeds.
One problem is the owners. If you already have a breed that are prone to guard, fight, hunt, and you add on socially inadequate owners you have a problem waiting to happen.

A bull breed you say? Everyone is very, very surprised 😐