AIBU to want cafes to be dog free after grandchild was bitten?

[OhSoTrue]

What to do? Took my 12 year old gc into a cafe for lunch today, and a dog
snapped her ankle as we walked by. It drew blood. No idea why it picked on her.
She did nothing beyond walking in the door.

The dog owner 'fled the scene' as it were. Made a hasty exit while he had the chance and everyone was looking at the injury.

Wouldn't it just be better if we kept dogs out of what really should be an exclusively human area?

The argument that "they are allowed here so suck it up" is wearing thin.
We are all very fed up of your dogs in human spaces. The vast majority of us would prefer a dog free space.

Dog allergies are a big issue for some people unfortunately. Sometimes it’s not a question of not liking dogs, sometimes they make people ill.

We have allergies in our family and dogs in a restaurant would ruin the evening. Especially if we weren’t originally aware they were there because they were under a table…that just means there’s no chance to avoid them by leaving iyswim.

Well if they are that upset at a quiet well behaved dog being there then I would suggest they go somewhere else. Maybe a Wetherspoons? Although their food is pretty crap.

I don't need training tips for my dog from you thank you. We do go out sometimes without him but prefer to take him with us when and where we can. He is a rescue and has had enough upheaval without being left when he doesn't need to be. Oh and he is not interested in toys

Well surely then you would not go to a restaurant that allows dogs? Both restaurants have big signs saying "dogs welcome" so no excuse not to know.

There are plenty of restaurants near me that do not allow dogs so anyone not wanting to be near dogs can go to one of those

I recall a post on another thread where someone had their dog under their seat on a bus or train. After 2 hours of not seeing the dog and being totally unaffected by it, the lady opposite got angry and said it had set off her allergies.
What sort of allergy only occurs once you notice the trigger?

I said ‘a good many people’, so I obviously wasn’t talking about everyone! My only point was that not everyone cares either way about dogs in pubs/cafes. Which fits with there being 20% who said that they felt strongly that dogs shouldn’t be in eating establishments.

My DH can’t be in places with lots of dogs, because he’s allergic; I asked him what he thought just now and he said he would walk out if there were too many dogs for him. Curiously, I can’t recall that ever happening, though. (Although we do more often than not go to restaurants when we eat out, where only assistant dogs are allowed.)

Yes restaurants and pubs of an evening

My point wasn't to get into a debate about how inconsiderate you view me.

It was that im not taking them because they can't be left due to separation anxiety. Mine are left plenty and fine with it and Im not precious about it

We just holiday in the uk alot , and often end up in accommodation which doesnt let them be left, and im an ardent rule follower who wouldn't dream of leaving a dog somewhere i was told not to. Most air bnb/ cottage guests will be in the same position as will anybody camping.
Otherwise in a tent the only option would be bbqs and you'd be buggered when it rained

And because we are confident leaving them for the day, we won't leave them in the night too if we feel its excessive.

Most recent example is I took the kids out for the day minus dog, came back to a power cut so we all went to a local restaurant.

It wasn't a big deal.

Most dog owners are going out for days out and meals without their dogs. Something like 50% of the UK has a dog and you don't see 50% of diners with a dog. There's normally a reason people have bought dogs and its rarely because they can't bare to be apart

It’s only the same as you being glad there are restaurants and cafes out there that allow dogs even though you’ve never set foot in them and never will.

I am not surprised to see this post today after the recent BBC broadcast on this.

But it's irrelevant to you, it's not your business. If the actual business owners didn't think it was the most profitable option they wouldn't do it. Their business, not yours.

The previous poster doesn't want dogs in any cafes. They have been going to cafes and complaining if they see a dog, even well behaved.

What broadcast?

It is our business, we are paying customers! Some cafe <and restaurant> owners just need reminding of this.

Reminding of what exactly? That some people don't like dogs in eating places? If the owners feel that they get more custom and therefore more money by allowing dogs (and many obviously do) why would they listen? Also there are plenty of places that don't allow dogs so people can just go to them

You do know that new users join Mumsnet every day, so some people will not have seen these threads? And you can also ignore them?

In any case, these threads will end once shit dog owners learn to control their dogs properly.

Yes, business owner. You need to recognise that your profit margins aren’t the only important thing here. Gloria’s £4.50 every six months or so counts too.

They don’t need reminding of anything. Hilarious. What do you expect them to do..say “oh ok we won’t make the decision which makes the most profit for our business, because you’re one customer who wants us to do x when the majority obviously want us to do y.

Give your head a wobble. 😆. You sound exceptionally entitled and quite bonkers!

I would like to see her try it with my local café. It is in the middle of a park, so lots of dog walkers. On certain days, you get 10% off food if you have a dog with you.
If she went in there with her entitled attitude, she would be asked to leave and never return.

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Calm down hun.

Never been asked to leave anywhere. Yep happy to give it a go in your local. Ive had success so far.

People just think they have to put up with entitled inconsiderate dog owners taking their pets with them everywhere, when in fact if you point out to shop owners paticularly eateries the health and safety and hygiene issues they tend to take it on board.

Sorry, but how is it entitled to go to a café that is in the middle of a popular dog walking park, that welcomes dogs, that actually encourages them in, with a dog?
That makes NO sense.

You are the entitled one, and you simply can not see that.

I don't know why you are attacking me for questionning the profitability of businesses that welcome dogs, I was answering other posters who made those claims,

I think you are deluded if you think that most venues manager/owners have hard data on this rather than making decisions based on the fact that they themselves like dogs.

Businesses simply didn’t consider the health and safety aspects before Gloria walked through the door and challenged them.

And dunfer .. thoughts mean nothing, remember.