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Grandparents involvement

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Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 18:47

To preface, in no way do I think i’m owed childcare or that our parents shouldn’t enjoy their retirement. They’ve all worked hard and deserve lots of ‘me time’

AIBU to be a bit annoyed by being let down by Grandparents?

We don’t ask either of our mums to babysit that often. My mum has babysat three times in 2.5yrs, never in an evening, overnight or more than three hours. We chose to have children and their our responsibility for sure, but there are times we need support.

Bit of background:

My mum was brilliant when she first retired two years ago. She happily came up once a week to help out, especially as I was so unwell post birth with my first. I’ve never asked that of her, it was always something she wanted to do. Lately, she’s stopped visiting as frequently and when she does, appears completely bored and disinterested. She’ll offer to watch my children (two under two) for 30mins so I can speed clean my house, which I was very grateful for. But the last few times, she’s either sat on her phone talking to her friend whilst the kids are left unsupervised or doom scrolling on social media whilst my baby has helped himself to a packet of paracetamol from her handbag and is sat chewing the packet, whilst my toddler is crying for her attention.

She offered to have my toddler when I went into labour with my 2nd. During my final weeks of pregnancy, she’d decided to book herself a last minute holiday as it had been a couple of months since she’d been away. She knows how unpredictable babies can be. It was her literal career for several decades, but she said she wanted to go as it was quiet with her hobbies. I ended up going into labour whilst she was away and she threw a massive strop about how her holiday was ruined. My in-laws offered to look after our toddler but only until she got back as they had plans later in the day for dinner. You can imagine how stressful that was. My mum kept calling me to say how she was tired travelling back and why couldn’t I wait until she’d come back. My MIL kept texting my husband for updates on when my mum was coming or if he’d come back as soon as the baby was born or sooner if it came to close to their cutoff.

My MIL hasn’t been the most pleasant to me since having my 1st. Though she’s massively improved, she still occasionally throws a few sly comments my way. She came over relentlessly in the newborn period, not to help, but be hosted. 24hrs postpartum after a long labour and significant PPH, wanting to know what DH was serving for lunch. Proceeded to stay the entire day, telling me how unwell I looked, doing absolutely nothing to help, watching my husband fight for his life with a confused and overstimulated toddler and me barely able to walk. DH called it a day when she asked what was for dinner 😅 When she left, she said she was so glad she was able to help. That was a pattern until my youngest started wanting to explore rather than be held. Then she disappeared. Same with my 1st.

Because of all the above, we just don’t bother asking for support. If they offer it, great, but we don’t expect it.

I’ve been trying to be seen by the gynae team since my 2nd born was four weeks old with a suspected prolapse. DH was called into an urgent meeting the first attempt at an appointment so it was rescheduled. The 2nd date given, he was away with work and neither mums were available. The last two appointments I’d asked both mums who said to just give them the date and time and they’d make it work. Both cancelled last minute. The latest one, my mum promised she’d make it work and agreed to look after the kids for an hour so I could go. She text yesterday to say her friend has a birthday lunch so she can no longer have the kids as she doesn’t want to miss it and to ask MIL instead. I’ve asked MIL who said she’d do it, but has text today to say it’s her monthly WI country walk and she’s going to that instead. DH is trying to rearrange his work trip, but as it’s been booked months in advance is looking unlikely. The nature of his work means that he’s away often.

I just feel so let down by both mums. My Dad is useless and we’ve been low contact for several years. He remarried years ago and decided he wanted to focus on his new family. FIL is the eldest grandparent by 10yrs and isn’t the bio father of DH and his siblings, so didn’t come into their lives until they were early teens - he says he doesn’t have a clue what to do with children.

Ive mentioned to them before how we’re trying to arrange paid for childcare, but struggling. Both mums have rubbished that idea and said that’s what they’re here for, but have yet to step up. They see paid for childcare as embarrassing to me and to them (it implies that they don’t help apparently)

Both parents promised they’d support us, but haven’t. We’ve brought it up to both of them separately. It’s met with “you just don’t understand how busy I am in retirement” and “I’ve done my bit”

Ive expressed to my mum how frustrated I am. I don’t take advantage, I don’t ask unless I’m desperate, which she always says to do but there’s always something more important. She said she did it without help (she didn’t, we spent a lot of time at grandparents during the holidays) She said I’m being unreasonable to be annoyed as she’s raised her kids and worked for forty years in healthcare, it’s her time now. My MIL said something similar to my husband and told him to stop whining. Fine, but they both said yes yet again and then cancelled when a better offer came in. It’s literally an hour with their grandkids who they all make hardly any time to see. There’s no hands on care involved. The baby will be napping for the whole time and my toddler is quite content playing with his toys.

AIBU to feel let down? I don’t ask for regular childcare, we’re not asking so we can go out on a date together. I’m literally in so much discomfort, I need medical help. I’ve asked, but I can’t take the children with me to the appointment. It’s an hour out of their time.

Sorry if it’s a bit rambly and all over the place.

OP posts:
shellyleppard · 29/03/2026 18:51

Op I feel for you. Is there a friend or childminder that could help? Sending hugs 🫂💐❤️

JLou08 · 29/03/2026 18:59

You need go accept that they are not going to help. Stop asking then you won't need to go through being let down. Do the department know you don't have childcare? I took my DC to appointments with me as I had no option, they were strapped in their buggy with some pram toys on the bar. It went fine. I didn't even think to ask the doctors if they could come in.

Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 19:01

shellyleppard · 29/03/2026 18:51

Op I feel for you. Is there a friend or childminder that could help? Sending hugs 🫂💐❤️

We had a place at nursery for our toddler, but withdrew him at the settling in session as we didn’t like the environment. As we moved to the area after he was born, we weren’t on any wait lists for nurseries, so everything is booked up until 2027. Struggling with childminders too.

A lot friends are in a similar boat. We help eachother where we can, but with work schedules and burn out, we can’t really ask. The appointment is in the day, so those with kids in childcare are at work. I get how shattered they all are and it feels like taking the mick a bit asking them to take time off work to watch my children for an hour, when we have four parents who could but won’t.

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Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 19:04

JLou08 · 29/03/2026 18:59

You need go accept that they are not going to help. Stop asking then you won't need to go through being let down. Do the department know you don't have childcare? I took my DC to appointments with me as I had no option, they were strapped in their buggy with some pram toys on the bar. It went fine. I didn't even think to ask the doctors if they could come in.

I’ve asked the department and they’ve said no. My kids wouldn’t cause problems, the baby would be out cold as its nap time, the toddler would happily sit there and play with his toys. I get they have to have a blanket rule as I imagine some kids would be absolutely feral!

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Eenameenadeeka · 29/03/2026 19:08

This definitely sounds disappointing, the way they act willing but then let you down at the last minute. I think you need find paid childcare, and too bad if they don't like it, they aren't willing to actually help.

Abd80 · 29/03/2026 19:16

Solidarity. We don’t get any family help at all either. All grandparents are in their 70s and aren’t able for much now. In-laws live abroad.

you should just go to your appointment and bring the babies. I’ve brought my babies to my medical appointments and there’s been no problem. They’ve been to breast clinic, gynae, GP, ortho, over the years.
I had my baby on my chest for a smear test with a toddler on an iPad eating crisps in the corner of the room!
the alternative is your own medical care is neglected. I would just go ! I wouldn’t ask permission beforehand. Just go. Explain when you get there that you had no other option ! (If anyone says anything )

Weeelokthen · 29/03/2026 19:17

I"m sorry you have shitty parents and in laws. I would not have been able to work, being a sp without my dp's.
Hopefully you will be too busy with your life when they get older and need to be taken to appointments/shopping.

Sassylovesbooks · 29/03/2026 19:23

Bless you're heart, I'm not surprised you are fed up and extremely disappointed in both sets of grandparents. The fact that your Mum and MIL knew the appointment is medical, yet still decided that the other option was way too important to miss, is awful.

Sadly, I think you are going to have to accept that both sets of grandparents aren't particularly interested in their grandchildren and are unreliable. Of course, it's not their responsibility to care for their grandchildren, but it's not as if you're expecting regular childcare....these have all been one-off occasions.

I would see if you're able to find a babysitting service. You don't necessarily need the regularity of a childminder, but you do need someone reliable and competent on occasions.

Unfortunately, not all grandparents are made equal! My parents are brilliant with my son (he's their only grandchild) but my FIL (who has 4 grandchildren, 1 of which is my son) simply isn't interested. He is on a superficial level, but nothing further than that.

2026tricks · 29/03/2026 19:26

Yeah I was in a similar position when mine were small. Funnily enough now both sets are much older, less mobile and feeling lonely (I guess) they want lifts and company. No. Now my kids are older they can get stuffed. I vividly remember one occasion when I was on my absolute knees with the kids and sleep deprivation and they did FA.

I know this doesn’t help for now but you need a childcare arrangement and DH will have to fill the void until that’s sorted. Oh and I highly recommend reducing contact down for your own sanity!

Purpleturtle45 · 29/03/2026 19:27

What about the grandfathers?

Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 19:31

Purpleturtle45 · 29/03/2026 19:27

What about the grandfathers?

Covered that in the post. My Dad isn’t involved much at all, hasn’t since he remarried when I was in my early 20’s. FIL is well into his 80’s, the oldest grandparent by over 10yrs. Even if he was willing, he’s never raised young children. He’s DH’s stepfather, coming into their lives when they were teens. He says he doesn’t know what to do with kids. He’s not as mobile as he used to be either.

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Proudofitbabe · 29/03/2026 19:33

That’s crap from them both, OP. What a let-down, especially for a medical appointment. To agree and then back out late (to go for a walk!) is particularly bad from your mother in law.

No reasonable person expects the grandparents to be running around having the kids all the time during their precious retirement years, but I have no time for GPs who go to the opposite extreme of never helping, and justify it with “I’ve done my time/raise your own kids”. The odd babysit is not raising someone else’s kids (what an insult to knackered working parents doing the actual raising 🙄) - It’s the normal supportive thing to do for your family, if you’re able.

I’m in a similar boat with my in-laws and in my experience it doesn’t change. The kids don’t know them very well, but at least we also don’t feel as obligated to them as they age.

Leopardspota · 29/03/2026 19:35

This is on your husband. Nothing at work is not urgent than emergency childcare. My husband also has a big job and has to take time off last minute. He also travels and has had to say, in no uncertain terms, that if he’s needed he wont go. His boss once cancelled a trip (which mean husband couldn’t go either) the morning they were leaving as his adult daughter was very unwell. It was unfortunate, but what Can you do? The only place you are irreplaceable is at home.

however, I’d also be upset with parents. But it’s hard as damaging the relationship by fighting might make life harder. They might be more involved when kids are older and easier!

JustAnotherWhinger · 29/03/2026 19:36

Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 19:31

Covered that in the post. My Dad isn’t involved much at all, hasn’t since he remarried when I was in my early 20’s. FIL is well into his 80’s, the oldest grandparent by over 10yrs. Even if he was willing, he’s never raised young children. He’s DH’s stepfather, coming into their lives when they were teens. He says he doesn’t know what to do with kids. He’s not as mobile as he used to be either.

Could DH’s stepdad maybe come to the appointment with you and sit in the waiting room with the kids?

He then wouldn’t have to do anything specifically, but just be there.

It’s absolutely understandable that you feel let down by your Mum and MiL.

Aiming4Optimistic · 29/03/2026 19:42

They are both really awful. In your shoes I'd stop seeing them - there's no excuse for the way they've let you down and their complete lack of care for their own children. You will be happier if you don't put yourself in a position where they can cause you hurt.

You don't mention finances, but could you employ a teenage girl as a 'mother's helper'? I wouldn't leave the kids with her while you went out, but she could watch them in the waiting room while you had medical appointments and at home while you have a bath, do chores etc. I had a little job like this then I was a teen and it was fab.

RoseJam · 29/03/2026 19:45

You have every right to feel disappointed. I often feel modern society has forgotten that it takes 'a village' to raise a child. Having children is bloody hard work and at any age, parents need help.

However you can't force grandparents. Sadly some are interested and would love to help, and others have their own plans. Also you may find that some grandparents may really only be interested in a certain age and not other ages. (eg My mum only loved the newborn to 1 year phase).

Things I found helped:

  1. Getting my DH to step up (and he did). You and your children - not work - are the priority here
  2. Getting friends to help if you can
  3. Getting outside help - eg Hiring nanny, babysitter, cleaner etc if money allows.
  4. Remembering that as my parents were selfish in putting their needs first when I was desperate for help with my dc, that I was equally entitled to refuse caring for them now that they are elderly.

As they saying goes - what goes around, comes around.

movinghomeadvice · 29/03/2026 19:48

I’m really sorry to hear this OP.

Like others have said, it’s best to accept that they don’t want to help, and live your life based around that. I know it seems like a huge task, but you’re going to have to spend the next year or so building your village without them.

Start with paid childcare: Babysitters, childminders, nursery, whatever is available. Then work on unpaid/exchange childcare, where you ‘swap’ childcare with friends. It will get much easier once you no longer have 2 under 2. In my experience, even the most competent, lovely babysitters/friends don’t want to deal with that stage.

I live abroad with 3 DC under 7, so I’m in the same boat. It all falls on me and DH, so I’ve just had to make it work.

movinghomeadvice · 29/03/2026 19:49

Aiming4Optimistic · 29/03/2026 19:42

They are both really awful. In your shoes I'd stop seeing them - there's no excuse for the way they've let you down and their complete lack of care for their own children. You will be happier if you don't put yourself in a position where they can cause you hurt.

You don't mention finances, but could you employ a teenage girl as a 'mother's helper'? I wouldn't leave the kids with her while you went out, but she could watch them in the waiting room while you had medical appointments and at home while you have a bath, do chores etc. I had a little job like this then I was a teen and it was fab.

I also thought about the mother’s helper idea for the medical appointment. I’ve done that before and it worked really well.

Solost92 · 29/03/2026 19:51

You've been particularly let down. We don't have any kind of support day to day. But my mum was prepared to miss a wedding if second born was coming then. She's taking time off work to sit with DS an hour while I have a scan.
But that is it. My dad is useless and in laws are plain spiteful, we parent different to them so they take joy in us struggling.

AxolotlEars · 29/03/2026 19:53

Abd80 · 29/03/2026 19:16

Solidarity. We don’t get any family help at all either. All grandparents are in their 70s and aren’t able for much now. In-laws live abroad.

you should just go to your appointment and bring the babies. I’ve brought my babies to my medical appointments and there’s been no problem. They’ve been to breast clinic, gynae, GP, ortho, over the years.
I had my baby on my chest for a smear test with a toddler on an iPad eating crisps in the corner of the room!
the alternative is your own medical care is neglected. I would just go ! I wouldn’t ask permission beforehand. Just go. Explain when you get there that you had no other option ! (If anyone says anything )

Edited

I wouldn't ask either. I wouldn't let them out of the pushchair.

That does sound really rubbish. I just can't imagine doing that to my family. The flakiness is almost worse than outright refusal.

WaneyEdge · 29/03/2026 19:56

Abd80 · 29/03/2026 19:16

Solidarity. We don’t get any family help at all either. All grandparents are in their 70s and aren’t able for much now. In-laws live abroad.

you should just go to your appointment and bring the babies. I’ve brought my babies to my medical appointments and there’s been no problem. They’ve been to breast clinic, gynae, GP, ortho, over the years.
I had my baby on my chest for a smear test with a toddler on an iPad eating crisps in the corner of the room!
the alternative is your own medical care is neglected. I would just go ! I wouldn’t ask permission beforehand. Just go. Explain when you get there that you had no other option ! (If anyone says anything )

Edited

And if they won’t let her in with 2 small kids? Waste of everyone’s time and a wasted appointment.

Thingcanonlygetbetter · 29/03/2026 20:00

They are flipping crap Grandparents. As a mother I could not imagine treating any of my kids like that. Your Mum is the worst as it is you her child that needs medical treatment and a stupid birthday lunch with her mate is more important. OP I would be fuming. They could all fuck off at the high days and holidays when they probably don’t want to be left on their own. My parents keeps really active in retirement but they would drop anyone or anything for me and my kids and their reward for that is still having older teenage grandchildren keeping in regular contact and visiting. My kids don’t bother with husband’s parents as they didn’t bother with them.

Proudofitbabe · 29/03/2026 20:02

Thingcanonlygetbetter · 29/03/2026 20:00

They are flipping crap Grandparents. As a mother I could not imagine treating any of my kids like that. Your Mum is the worst as it is you her child that needs medical treatment and a stupid birthday lunch with her mate is more important. OP I would be fuming. They could all fuck off at the high days and holidays when they probably don’t want to be left on their own. My parents keeps really active in retirement but they would drop anyone or anything for me and my kids and their reward for that is still having older teenage grandchildren keeping in regular contact and visiting. My kids don’t bother with husband’s parents as they didn’t bother with them.

Yes, this. Said much better than my post! 👏

PoppinjayPolly · 29/03/2026 20:03

Leopardspota · 29/03/2026 19:35

This is on your husband. Nothing at work is not urgent than emergency childcare. My husband also has a big job and has to take time off last minute. He also travels and has had to say, in no uncertain terms, that if he’s needed he wont go. His boss once cancelled a trip (which mean husband couldn’t go either) the morning they were leaving as his adult daughter was very unwell. It was unfortunate, but what Can you do? The only place you are irreplaceable is at home.

however, I’d also be upset with parents. But it’s hard as damaging the relationship by fighting might make life harder. They might be more involved when kids are older and easier!

This, why aren’t you more annoyed at your husband and the children’s father? Why does he get a pass that his day is more important than the dc or your medical appt? DH was called into an urgent meeting the first attempt at an appointment so it was rescheduled. The 2nd date given, he was away with work and neither mums were available.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/03/2026 20:03

YANBU at all to feel so let down. All your parents and in laws have been completely rubbish and it’s totally reasonable to feel let down.

The bit you’re going to have to ignore is where they say don’t get paid childcare or that’s what they’re for etc. They’re clearly not up for it. Don’t let them hobble you by saying they’ll step up and then not doing it -
take control. That’s the upside of capitalism- you can pay for the things you need or want.

The only thing you’re being a bit U about is being so willing to write your Dad and FiL out for the equation - you say both are crap / crap with kids but your Mum and MiL are equally crap
and you keep trying them again!