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Grandparents involvement

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Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 18:47

To preface, in no way do I think i’m owed childcare or that our parents shouldn’t enjoy their retirement. They’ve all worked hard and deserve lots of ‘me time’

AIBU to be a bit annoyed by being let down by Grandparents?

We don’t ask either of our mums to babysit that often. My mum has babysat three times in 2.5yrs, never in an evening, overnight or more than three hours. We chose to have children and their our responsibility for sure, but there are times we need support.

Bit of background:

My mum was brilliant when she first retired two years ago. She happily came up once a week to help out, especially as I was so unwell post birth with my first. I’ve never asked that of her, it was always something she wanted to do. Lately, she’s stopped visiting as frequently and when she does, appears completely bored and disinterested. She’ll offer to watch my children (two under two) for 30mins so I can speed clean my house, which I was very grateful for. But the last few times, she’s either sat on her phone talking to her friend whilst the kids are left unsupervised or doom scrolling on social media whilst my baby has helped himself to a packet of paracetamol from her handbag and is sat chewing the packet, whilst my toddler is crying for her attention.

She offered to have my toddler when I went into labour with my 2nd. During my final weeks of pregnancy, she’d decided to book herself a last minute holiday as it had been a couple of months since she’d been away. She knows how unpredictable babies can be. It was her literal career for several decades, but she said she wanted to go as it was quiet with her hobbies. I ended up going into labour whilst she was away and she threw a massive strop about how her holiday was ruined. My in-laws offered to look after our toddler but only until she got back as they had plans later in the day for dinner. You can imagine how stressful that was. My mum kept calling me to say how she was tired travelling back and why couldn’t I wait until she’d come back. My MIL kept texting my husband for updates on when my mum was coming or if he’d come back as soon as the baby was born or sooner if it came to close to their cutoff.

My MIL hasn’t been the most pleasant to me since having my 1st. Though she’s massively improved, she still occasionally throws a few sly comments my way. She came over relentlessly in the newborn period, not to help, but be hosted. 24hrs postpartum after a long labour and significant PPH, wanting to know what DH was serving for lunch. Proceeded to stay the entire day, telling me how unwell I looked, doing absolutely nothing to help, watching my husband fight for his life with a confused and overstimulated toddler and me barely able to walk. DH called it a day when she asked what was for dinner 😅 When she left, she said she was so glad she was able to help. That was a pattern until my youngest started wanting to explore rather than be held. Then she disappeared. Same with my 1st.

Because of all the above, we just don’t bother asking for support. If they offer it, great, but we don’t expect it.

I’ve been trying to be seen by the gynae team since my 2nd born was four weeks old with a suspected prolapse. DH was called into an urgent meeting the first attempt at an appointment so it was rescheduled. The 2nd date given, he was away with work and neither mums were available. The last two appointments I’d asked both mums who said to just give them the date and time and they’d make it work. Both cancelled last minute. The latest one, my mum promised she’d make it work and agreed to look after the kids for an hour so I could go. She text yesterday to say her friend has a birthday lunch so she can no longer have the kids as she doesn’t want to miss it and to ask MIL instead. I’ve asked MIL who said she’d do it, but has text today to say it’s her monthly WI country walk and she’s going to that instead. DH is trying to rearrange his work trip, but as it’s been booked months in advance is looking unlikely. The nature of his work means that he’s away often.

I just feel so let down by both mums. My Dad is useless and we’ve been low contact for several years. He remarried years ago and decided he wanted to focus on his new family. FIL is the eldest grandparent by 10yrs and isn’t the bio father of DH and his siblings, so didn’t come into their lives until they were early teens - he says he doesn’t have a clue what to do with children.

Ive mentioned to them before how we’re trying to arrange paid for childcare, but struggling. Both mums have rubbished that idea and said that’s what they’re here for, but have yet to step up. They see paid for childcare as embarrassing to me and to them (it implies that they don’t help apparently)

Both parents promised they’d support us, but haven’t. We’ve brought it up to both of them separately. It’s met with “you just don’t understand how busy I am in retirement” and “I’ve done my bit”

Ive expressed to my mum how frustrated I am. I don’t take advantage, I don’t ask unless I’m desperate, which she always says to do but there’s always something more important. She said she did it without help (she didn’t, we spent a lot of time at grandparents during the holidays) She said I’m being unreasonable to be annoyed as she’s raised her kids and worked for forty years in healthcare, it’s her time now. My MIL said something similar to my husband and told him to stop whining. Fine, but they both said yes yet again and then cancelled when a better offer came in. It’s literally an hour with their grandkids who they all make hardly any time to see. There’s no hands on care involved. The baby will be napping for the whole time and my toddler is quite content playing with his toys.

AIBU to feel let down? I don’t ask for regular childcare, we’re not asking so we can go out on a date together. I’m literally in so much discomfort, I need medical help. I’ve asked, but I can’t take the children with me to the appointment. It’s an hour out of their time.

Sorry if it’s a bit rambly and all over the place.

OP posts:
Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 21:14

Netcurtainnelly · 29/03/2026 20:59

Why does it always fall to parents?

Have you no siblings either of you or friends
You can always pay a local babysitter too.

Stop asking they don't want to do it.

Only one of our siblings lives close by. I wouldn’t trust him.

Why is it always the parents? Because they’re parents. I don’t personally see my role as a parent ending when my children reach adulthood. I’ll always be their mother. And if they need me, I’ll be there. They’re the ones who always offer, but find something better to do. We’re done asking now. But the children are supposed to pander to the parents when the time comes they need support right?

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Raintoday2323 · 29/03/2026 21:17

Sadly a similar situation here. In the end I settled the children into a nursery for the minimal time they would allow and then when I needed childcare I booked extra sessions. It was a life saver.
I once had to beg my mum for lift home from a 3 night stay at hospital when I was ill and 8 months pregnant. It was almost humiliating having to beg for such a small thing, I look back and think a taxi driver would have had more empathy actually I should have done that instead but I just felt so vulnerable I didn't want to sit in a car with a stranger for 40 mins.

Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 21:20

PoppinjayPolly · 29/03/2026 20:25

The 2nd date given, he was away with work and neither mums were available.
and yours and his dads/step dads? Or is childcare a purely female task?

Covered that in my OP. My Dad I don’t have much contact with at all. Remarried when I was in my early 20’s and made it clear his focus was on his new wife and her kids. Relationship with him hadn’t really recovered. He’s pretty much a stranger now.

FIL is in his 80’s. He’s the oldest grandparent by 10yrs and he’s not as mobile as he was, but won’t admit it. He’s also never had experience with young kids, having entered into DH & siblings lives when they were pre-teens/teens. He’s not been hands on with any of the other GC’s either, makes it clear he prefers the dogs to kids 😂

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TheNoisyGreyLion · 29/03/2026 21:25

They sound absolutely awful and I really feel for you. At least if they said no from the off then you could try and make other plans. But to let you down at the last minute for some inane reason is really bad. I remember having to take my toddler to my smear test as MIL wanted to get ready for a lunch with her friend which wasn’t until 3 hours later at a local cafe. I had to build my own village with baby group mums and then school mums, but I appreciate it’s hard, especially at the start. Sending love xxx

Heronwatcher · 29/03/2026 21:28

YANBU to feel annoyed but you just have to stop asking. It would be a cold day in hell before I asked again after this. There are a few options, you and DH need to make one work:

  • get appointment and he takes day off work. If called in urgently he says he’ll have to bring kids;
  • register for a childminder/ agency and them- get someone in a few times beforehand if necessary so the kids are used to them;
  • get comfortable with a nursery- there must be somewhere adequate even if not perfect with spaces this year. Expand the search to a slightly wider area etc. Are you not using free hours even?
  • In extremis, take the kids with you and tell them the childminder has norovirus etc. If they send you away you’ve not really lost much.

Your parents/ in-laws might change over time but I honestly think the only way you can repair the relationship is to remove all pressure. I wouldn’t be bending over to socialise with either of them TBH let them do the running from now on.

If they ask about it be honest but not combative “If you’d like to see the kids you’re welcome but you need to come here” or “Yes, Sophia’s going to nursery tomorrow, we needed reliable childcare and she loves it.” Or just, “mum if you want to be on your phone that’s fine, but we’re going to the park- can you slam the door on your way out?”.

PurpleThistle7 · 29/03/2026 21:33

I am very confused about the appointment. My husband and I are immigrants so we never have backup. When the kids were little he travelled for work a lot so the kids were always wherever I was. I wouldn’t think twice about bringing them to a postpartum appointment. I’d call again and explain that you have no childcare at all so there’s no choice.

But more generally I think you’ll feel better when you stop thinking about them as options. If none of them were there, what would you do? My backup plan was to have our son on my own if my husband needed to be with our daughter. Plenty of women do that and to be honest he wasn’t much help anyway. So if you pretend they aren’t there, what does that look like? Do you need to look for a babysitter? Start a trading off with a friend? Get a mother’s helper? Even a teenager to just be a second set of hands might help more generally. I’d just take them out of the equation altogether and don’t put much effort into seeing them loads either.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/03/2026 21:41

Mischance · 29/03/2026 20:15

I had no parents nearby when I was bringing up my 3 children. We just had to manage.

If I understand your post, your mum broke off a holiday to come back and help you - and you do not think that is sufficient?

OP's mum agreed to look after her toddler when OP went into labour but then booked a last minute holiday. She seems to make a habit of agreeing to help and then backing out and leaving OP in the lurch.

I had no parents to help me with my three children (my mum died and my dad re-married and couldn't give a shit) but I help my adult kids with childcare as I know how shitty it is bringing up children with no help or support from grandparents.

Applecup · 29/03/2026 21:43

You need to find a reliable babysitter/childminder. They are out there.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/03/2026 21:48

Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 21:14

Only one of our siblings lives close by. I wouldn’t trust him.

Why is it always the parents? Because they’re parents. I don’t personally see my role as a parent ending when my children reach adulthood. I’ll always be their mother. And if they need me, I’ll be there. They’re the ones who always offer, but find something better to do. We’re done asking now. But the children are supposed to pander to the parents when the time comes they need support right?

Do you think that your mum and MIL will expect you to provide help and support when they get older? They would be massively unreasonable to expect this but they both sound very selfish and self-absorbed.

I'd pull right back from the pair of them.

DramaQueenlady · 29/03/2026 21:49

Can you look up local childminders or babysitters on Facebook. If you town has a local page, might be worth asking there. Agree both grandparents are awful. Stop asking and just sort your own child care. Tell them nothing and dont be available to them either. Good luck. But worst case, if you have a twin buggy put both in there at take them with you.

Copperoliverbear · 29/03/2026 21:49

You need to except they’re not going to help and ask friends or sign up to a babysitting service or something.

mindutopia · 29/03/2026 21:51

Our mums have looked after our children probably 10 times in 13+ years. (Our dads both died when we were teenagers, hence why I say mums). Granted maybe 3-4 of those times were for an overnight.

But I’ve taken my then 5 month old to have my coil inserted. Took him again to the hospital to have stitches removed after surgery (Dh was away with older dd).

Neither of them have ever had dc for a day in the school holidays or taken them out for a day out to do something fun. They’re primary and secondary age now, not teeny babies. Interactions solely involve coming to our house, eating lunch, going home, or sometimes meeting up at a NT for a dog walk. 🤷🏻‍♀️ That’s it.

On the contrary, my grandparents had me every day 8-6 from 3 months to school age and then all school holidays til I was 12. We went out to farm parks and pony rides and apple picking and for ice cream and to the playground and to do the food shopping and to the beach. They took me away on caravan holidays. Neither of our parents has ever taken one of our dc out of the house to do anything fun, ever, in 13 years. They come, sit, eat, go home.

I may not live long enough to see grandchildren born, but if I do, I will be right in there with holiday childcare and fun days out and sleepovers. I think it must skip a generation. 😂

Orangebadger · 29/03/2026 21:53

That’s really crap, especially your own mum not helping you out with a hospital appt and she was a HCP??!!
I really struggle to get my head around parents like your and your MIL but you need to accept that they are just not willing as rubbish as that is.

We had no help but this was largely due to In laws living in another country and mine too old and frail. We had to find a childminder that would do ad hoc care, that was a life saver!!

firstofallimadelight · 29/03/2026 21:56

Re book the appointment as soon as date is through your dh puts annual leave in for that day.
stop asking/ accepting help from parents and don’t put your self out for them either. Reconsider nursery/ preschool for eldest just to make things easier. Go on families information service for your area and see what availability there is or get on wait lists.

BeKhakiReader · 29/03/2026 21:56

That’s really sad, as apart from anything else, the grandparents/grandchild amazing relationship isn’t thriving.

I do loads of granny daycare and it’s the highlight of my week. If you live in the southwest of England, I’ll blinking look after your kids for your appointment!

potoftea · 29/03/2026 21:57

I really feel sorry for you and your family being let down so much by these women who pretend to care for you.
Thats the worse part to me, that they probably think they are helpful to you.

To be honest, I'd do two things now, if I were you, neither very kind I guess.
I'd write a letter to myself explaining how I've been badly let down, and feeling so hurt, and pack it away. In years to come when they're old and asking for help, it may strengthen your resolve to hold boundaries for yourself rather than giving more than you should, of your time, and care.

Secondly, I'd post on social media or family WhatsApp etc, asking for someone to babysit for this appointment. I'd explain that the appointment was urgent and was postponed previously due to lack of childcare.
Maybe someone can help, even if they accompanied you to the hospital and stayed in the waiting room with the children during the appointment.
And it has the bonus of shaming those who let you down, without naming names!

Pistachiocake · 29/03/2026 22:13

Netcurtainnelly · 29/03/2026 20:59

Why does it always fall to parents?

Have you no siblings either of you or friends
You can always pay a local babysitter too.

Stop asking they don't want to do it.

They shouldn't say they do, then-OP says they told her not to get paid childcare.
I do think grandads tend to get more or a pass than grandmothers though, which isn't fair, but it's sad your kids have 4 GPs alive, OP, who don't seem to want to be GP, when there's so many GPs who are desperate to see their grandkids and are banned from doing so.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 29/03/2026 22:20

Both mums have rubbished that idea and said that’s what they’re here for, but have yet to step up.

Ignore this bullshit completely.

If you are anywhere north london / herts that way message me.

You need to find a reliable childminder (or 3) who will do adhoc maybe a night nanny (some do day work).

Honestly I'd provide the kind of childcare you've asked for to any "mum friend". Its really basic stuff and so disappointing they'd treat you so poorly and your most vulnerable.
The fact its for totally unspecial / unremarkable alternatives makes it even more upsetting

💐💐💐

Gremlins101 · 29/03/2026 22:30

Ah thats awful behaviour from them. Theyre selfish OP.

Don't miss your appointment. Attend with your kids and bring something to watch for them, snacks, etc. Ask for forgiveness not permission.

Gremlins101 · 29/03/2026 22:34

Forget them for childcare and start building your network. Mum friends will be number 1, but find a couple of baby sitters willing to do ad hoc work too.

canuckup · 29/03/2026 22:34

They're just not interested

It's the same with me. It's just so disappointing but unfortunately seems par the course!

KeeleyJ · 29/03/2026 22:35

Do you visit them regulary as a whole family with no expectations of childcare?

Just asking as my Mum and the other Granny ended up mighty pissed off as they only ever seen my sister/BIL on the doorstep as kids were hastily shoved in the door.

My Mum and presumably the other Granny ended up fed up as sister/bil was only interested in them for childcare.

Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 23:07

KeeleyJ · 29/03/2026 22:35

Do you visit them regulary as a whole family with no expectations of childcare?

Just asking as my Mum and the other Granny ended up mighty pissed off as they only ever seen my sister/BIL on the doorstep as kids were hastily shoved in the door.

My Mum and presumably the other Granny ended up fed up as sister/bil was only interested in them for childcare.

Apart from 3 times for childcare for very short durations (minus being in labour with my 2nd) with my mum and zero times with my MIL, the only reason they see the kids is socially. It’s just to visit. MIL likes to do trips out activities, but not on her own with them. She’d never push the baby around in the pram for example. That would be helping. Strictly to be hosted, entertained and then home.

We used to only go to the in-laws house or to a restaurant near them, they’d never come to us. I’ve only asked my MIL once for help when she’s been over, whilst I was settling my toddler to sleep. Came out to find my newborn soaked in sick, red faced and screaming, strapped into his swing chair whilst she sat scrolling on her phone “I don’t want to hold him when he’s dirty like that, I don’t want it on my clothes”

My mum prefers to come to us. I used to think because she felt it’s easier for one adult to bring themselves than a carful of kids and their endless stuff. But the times we’ve gone to hers, she seemed stressed with having all of the children’s things in her space.

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Piglet89 · 29/03/2026 23:18

Depressingly common these days. You’ll fell a bit better when you grieve the lack of help and reach acceptance.

Curiositykillsth · 29/03/2026 23:22

My parents do everything for my kids. All dental appointments, random nights out, even allowing me to go on holiday.
I am VERY lucky.
I've never expected it, never demanded it. They say it keeps them young.
They have friends who, point blank, refuse to babysit for even a hour. One friend even charges their DC.
ExH parents have never offered to do anything for our DCs but do everything for his sisters DCs.
Unfortunately, such is life

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