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Grandparents involvement

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Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 18:47

To preface, in no way do I think i’m owed childcare or that our parents shouldn’t enjoy their retirement. They’ve all worked hard and deserve lots of ‘me time’

AIBU to be a bit annoyed by being let down by Grandparents?

We don’t ask either of our mums to babysit that often. My mum has babysat three times in 2.5yrs, never in an evening, overnight or more than three hours. We chose to have children and their our responsibility for sure, but there are times we need support.

Bit of background:

My mum was brilliant when she first retired two years ago. She happily came up once a week to help out, especially as I was so unwell post birth with my first. I’ve never asked that of her, it was always something she wanted to do. Lately, she’s stopped visiting as frequently and when she does, appears completely bored and disinterested. She’ll offer to watch my children (two under two) for 30mins so I can speed clean my house, which I was very grateful for. But the last few times, she’s either sat on her phone talking to her friend whilst the kids are left unsupervised or doom scrolling on social media whilst my baby has helped himself to a packet of paracetamol from her handbag and is sat chewing the packet, whilst my toddler is crying for her attention.

She offered to have my toddler when I went into labour with my 2nd. During my final weeks of pregnancy, she’d decided to book herself a last minute holiday as it had been a couple of months since she’d been away. She knows how unpredictable babies can be. It was her literal career for several decades, but she said she wanted to go as it was quiet with her hobbies. I ended up going into labour whilst she was away and she threw a massive strop about how her holiday was ruined. My in-laws offered to look after our toddler but only until she got back as they had plans later in the day for dinner. You can imagine how stressful that was. My mum kept calling me to say how she was tired travelling back and why couldn’t I wait until she’d come back. My MIL kept texting my husband for updates on when my mum was coming or if he’d come back as soon as the baby was born or sooner if it came to close to their cutoff.

My MIL hasn’t been the most pleasant to me since having my 1st. Though she’s massively improved, she still occasionally throws a few sly comments my way. She came over relentlessly in the newborn period, not to help, but be hosted. 24hrs postpartum after a long labour and significant PPH, wanting to know what DH was serving for lunch. Proceeded to stay the entire day, telling me how unwell I looked, doing absolutely nothing to help, watching my husband fight for his life with a confused and overstimulated toddler and me barely able to walk. DH called it a day when she asked what was for dinner 😅 When she left, she said she was so glad she was able to help. That was a pattern until my youngest started wanting to explore rather than be held. Then she disappeared. Same with my 1st.

Because of all the above, we just don’t bother asking for support. If they offer it, great, but we don’t expect it.

I’ve been trying to be seen by the gynae team since my 2nd born was four weeks old with a suspected prolapse. DH was called into an urgent meeting the first attempt at an appointment so it was rescheduled. The 2nd date given, he was away with work and neither mums were available. The last two appointments I’d asked both mums who said to just give them the date and time and they’d make it work. Both cancelled last minute. The latest one, my mum promised she’d make it work and agreed to look after the kids for an hour so I could go. She text yesterday to say her friend has a birthday lunch so she can no longer have the kids as she doesn’t want to miss it and to ask MIL instead. I’ve asked MIL who said she’d do it, but has text today to say it’s her monthly WI country walk and she’s going to that instead. DH is trying to rearrange his work trip, but as it’s been booked months in advance is looking unlikely. The nature of his work means that he’s away often.

I just feel so let down by both mums. My Dad is useless and we’ve been low contact for several years. He remarried years ago and decided he wanted to focus on his new family. FIL is the eldest grandparent by 10yrs and isn’t the bio father of DH and his siblings, so didn’t come into their lives until they were early teens - he says he doesn’t have a clue what to do with children.

Ive mentioned to them before how we’re trying to arrange paid for childcare, but struggling. Both mums have rubbished that idea and said that’s what they’re here for, but have yet to step up. They see paid for childcare as embarrassing to me and to them (it implies that they don’t help apparently)

Both parents promised they’d support us, but haven’t. We’ve brought it up to both of them separately. It’s met with “you just don’t understand how busy I am in retirement” and “I’ve done my bit”

Ive expressed to my mum how frustrated I am. I don’t take advantage, I don’t ask unless I’m desperate, which she always says to do but there’s always something more important. She said she did it without help (she didn’t, we spent a lot of time at grandparents during the holidays) She said I’m being unreasonable to be annoyed as she’s raised her kids and worked for forty years in healthcare, it’s her time now. My MIL said something similar to my husband and told him to stop whining. Fine, but they both said yes yet again and then cancelled when a better offer came in. It’s literally an hour with their grandkids who they all make hardly any time to see. There’s no hands on care involved. The baby will be napping for the whole time and my toddler is quite content playing with his toys.

AIBU to feel let down? I don’t ask for regular childcare, we’re not asking so we can go out on a date together. I’m literally in so much discomfort, I need medical help. I’ve asked, but I can’t take the children with me to the appointment. It’s an hour out of their time.

Sorry if it’s a bit rambly and all over the place.

OP posts:
MaryBeardsShoes · 31/03/2026 07:35

Leopardspota · 29/03/2026 19:35

This is on your husband. Nothing at work is not urgent than emergency childcare. My husband also has a big job and has to take time off last minute. He also travels and has had to say, in no uncertain terms, that if he’s needed he wont go. His boss once cancelled a trip (which mean husband couldn’t go either) the morning they were leaving as his adult daughter was very unwell. It was unfortunate, but what Can you do? The only place you are irreplaceable is at home.

however, I’d also be upset with parents. But it’s hard as damaging the relationship by fighting might make life harder. They might be more involved when kids are older and easier!

Yeah I agree with this. It’s disappointing your mum and mil are letting you down last minute but your DH should be putting your health above his work.

Aiming4Optimistic · 31/03/2026 08:49

Okay, so if a person cancels a work trip where 7 other people will also need to reschedule, what about the impact on their families? They might have pulled in childcare favours, rearranged nursery days, changed their own medical appointments. It's really not that easy to back out of things last minute, unless someone really is at death's door!

Yes, a person can legally do it for emergency childcare, but it's the sort of thing that can have far reaching implications when it comes to being seen as reliable, promotion prospects, who gets the chop when restructuring etc. The family need the dad to be in secure employment.

BG2015 · 31/03/2026 09:21

I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. It's very disappointing. I couldn't have managed without my parents when my DC were small.

Chunkychips23 · 31/03/2026 10:17

Aiming4Optimistic · 31/03/2026 08:49

Okay, so if a person cancels a work trip where 7 other people will also need to reschedule, what about the impact on their families? They might have pulled in childcare favours, rearranged nursery days, changed their own medical appointments. It's really not that easy to back out of things last minute, unless someone really is at death's door!

Yes, a person can legally do it for emergency childcare, but it's the sort of thing that can have far reaching implications when it comes to being seen as reliable, promotion prospects, who gets the chop when restructuring etc. The family need the dad to be in secure employment.

Edited

Thank you! If he would, he could. There have been plenty of occasions where he has managed to reschedule things, but pre-booked abroad work trips, unless an emergency are fixed. He feels guilty and upset as it is about it, leaving emotional this morning and frustrated. He’s been trying to see if he can use his works private medical to get me seen privately so we have more flexibility on the time and date, but we can’t afford the excess at the moment.

Both mums want to come visit this week, on days which suit them (no hobbies or social events) and I just feel so sapped at the thought right now. I needed them, but they let me down. Again. But it’s ok to come up for a jolly!

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Nofeckingway · 31/03/2026 10:21

@PoppinjayPolly The OP has already stated that the male grandparents are unsuitable. One is non contact and the other is too elderly.

The two mothers are both retired and in OK health . Able but not willing .

Aiming4Optimistic · 31/03/2026 10:22

I hope you've said no.
you can't change them but you can certainly change yourself. What's the worst they can do if you say that it isn't convenient and you have other plans (even if those plans were just lying on the sofa)? Sulk? Complain? Well fine, they won't be doing it in your house for you to see it, so who cares?
You have to stand up for yourself a bit here - match their energy and do what suits you!

Leopardspota · 31/03/2026 10:41

Chunkychips23 · 31/03/2026 10:17

Thank you! If he would, he could. There have been plenty of occasions where he has managed to reschedule things, but pre-booked abroad work trips, unless an emergency are fixed. He feels guilty and upset as it is about it, leaving emotional this morning and frustrated. He’s been trying to see if he can use his works private medical to get me seen privately so we have more flexibility on the time and date, but we can’t afford the excess at the moment.

Both mums want to come visit this week, on days which suit them (no hobbies or social events) and I just feel so sapped at the thought right now. I needed them, but they let me down. Again. But it’s ok to come up for a jolly!

But you said he had a meeting? That meant he couldn’t cover your medical appointment. Infact it wasn’t even a planned meeting! Not a trip aboard.

Aiming4Optimistic · 31/03/2026 10:47

It was a restructuring meeting though. Maybe jobs were at risk and being there to represent himself was essential. Working parents have to walk a tightrope sometimes.

thepariscrimefiles · 31/03/2026 10:59

Chunkychips23 · 30/03/2026 22:31

I did consider cognitive decline, but having witnessed how she is with others and things of interest to her, I’m not convinced yet. I just don’t think she enjoyed the early years parenting as much as she says she did. Last time I saw her, I showed her a social media post about how amazing it would be to go back and hold your child as a baby/toddler again, just to live in that moment with them again, just for a day. She said absolutely not. She doesn’t miss that at all. Then here’s me nearly crying looking through pictures of my toddler as a newborn as he’s growing too fast 😂

The responses have been really helpful and made me realise I need to stop hoping that they’ll help us. And to take a step back and stop trying to facilitate contact. If they want to see my children, then it’s up to them to reach out and arrange. We’ve both allowed our mums to take the piss. Won’t help after promising, no apologies for letting us down, but expect all the fun dates like birthdays and Christmas, or wanting to see the kids when it suits them, regardless if it suits us, throwing strops and guilt tripping if we say no.

I would wager a lot of money that your mum and MIL both pretend to be doting and indispensable grandparents when talking to their friends.

Absolutely stop inviting them to all the 'fun' stuff with your kids when they won't even show a bare minimal level of kindness and concern by agreeing to look after your children for a couple of hours to let you attend your urgent appointment. Your mother's attitude about this is worse than your MIL's because she should be distraught that her daughter is suffering from such a painful gynaecological injury. Her refusal to babysit is utterly disgusting and she should be ashamed.

thepariscrimefiles · 31/03/2026 11:06

Chunkychips23 · 31/03/2026 10:17

Thank you! If he would, he could. There have been plenty of occasions where he has managed to reschedule things, but pre-booked abroad work trips, unless an emergency are fixed. He feels guilty and upset as it is about it, leaving emotional this morning and frustrated. He’s been trying to see if he can use his works private medical to get me seen privately so we have more flexibility on the time and date, but we can’t afford the excess at the moment.

Both mums want to come visit this week, on days which suit them (no hobbies or social events) and I just feel so sapped at the thought right now. I needed them, but they let me down. Again. But it’s ok to come up for a jolly!

Tell them that you are busy. You need to harden your heart like they have obviously done very successfully. They don't have your or your children's best interests at heart. They are selfish and unkind and don't deserve to have just the 'good bits' of being a grandparents.

Tell them that due to your medical problem, you are too unwell to host visitors.

I'd love to be able to tell the pair of heartless twats to just fuck off, but you sound much more polite and much nicer than I am.

chocolatebutton9 · 31/03/2026 11:14

Chunkychips23 · 31/03/2026 10:17

Thank you! If he would, he could. There have been plenty of occasions where he has managed to reschedule things, but pre-booked abroad work trips, unless an emergency are fixed. He feels guilty and upset as it is about it, leaving emotional this morning and frustrated. He’s been trying to see if he can use his works private medical to get me seen privately so we have more flexibility on the time and date, but we can’t afford the excess at the moment.

Both mums want to come visit this week, on days which suit them (no hobbies or social events) and I just feel so sapped at the thought right now. I needed them, but they let me down. Again. But it’s ok to come up for a jolly!

Tell you are ill or busy, don't let them come if it's going to make it harder for you. They are putting themselves first 100% of the time, it's time for you to start putting your foot down.

Chunkychips23 · 31/03/2026 11:37

Leopardspota · 31/03/2026 10:41

But you said he had a meeting? That meant he couldn’t cover your medical appointment. Infact it wasn’t even a planned meeting! Not a trip aboard.

The first appointment he had a meeting. This one he’s abroad. Part of his job are work trips. Pre-booked. His company don’t see a medical appointment as an emergency, All info is in previous comments.

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Chunkychips23 · 31/03/2026 11:45

chocolatebutton9 · 31/03/2026 11:14

Tell you are ill or busy, don't let them come if it's going to make it harder for you. They are putting themselves first 100% of the time, it's time for you to start putting your foot down.

I’m putting MIL off until the weekend when DH is back. His mother his problem. I’m not going to be hosting her and bending over backwards for six hours whilst she demands XYZ whilst making sly digs, but expecting me to listen to her talk about her problems whilst refusing to even make herself a drink. She’ll completely refuse to acknowledge letting me down either. I’ve made it clear to DH that I’m not going to be spending time alone with her anymore.

I had a brief chat with my Mum this morning and she’s apologised, but said she’s sure that her friend asked first and she just forgot to put it in her diary (when I got the appointment date through, I called her and she went through her diary to check she was free) I said I’d see how I feel about her visiting this week as we’re ‘busy’.

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WorthyOpalZebra · 31/03/2026 11:56

My parents were the same when my children were young - no interest, never offered to help even in emergencies (like when I had appendicitis!) and would only visit for the "good bits". As a result, they had no relationship with their adult grandchildren despite only living in the next town. Mum died suddenly a couple of years ago and my dad expected me to drop everything to help him - he wasn't impressed when I refused and suggested he could buy in help like I was told to. You reap what you sew.

SandyHappy · 31/03/2026 12:33

I had a bit of a problem when we had DD, PIL would always say they had a standing offer to help, but then when I asked they would make excuses about 'having to go shopping' that day, or 'cleaning the bedrooms'. I think they wanted to help but they wanted me to know how much it was interrupting their busy life to do it (they are both retired).

So me being stubborn I said not to worry if they were busy, then refused their help when they protested, then I stopped asking for any help at all. I would help anyone who needs it if I could, without conditions, so this silly dance of making me feel bad for asking just didn't wash with me at all.

Weirdly a while after I stopped asking, they started offering, and their offers turned out to be genuine, so I let them, it was ONLY on their terms/timeframe, but with that and seeing them socially, they have formed a lovely relationship with our DD, and when I do (extremely rarely) ask for help they haven't let me down since.

I think you need to just stop asking to be honest, they are only interesting in helping superficially on their own terms anyway (MIL sounds horrifying anyway!), and they seem to think it is optional, so it is just leaving you disappointed every time. Dial your expectations down to zero and fuck them off completely would be my advice.

croydon15 · 31/03/2026 15:00

Chunkychips23 · 31/03/2026 10:17

Thank you! If he would, he could. There have been plenty of occasions where he has managed to reschedule things, but pre-booked abroad work trips, unless an emergency are fixed. He feels guilty and upset as it is about it, leaving emotional this morning and frustrated. He’s been trying to see if he can use his works private medical to get me seen privately so we have more flexibility on the time and date, but we can’t afford the excess at the moment.

Both mums want to come visit this week, on days which suit them (no hobbies or social events) and I just feel so sapped at the thought right now. I needed them, but they let me down. Again. But it’s ok to come up for a jolly!

I would say no l am not well enough as l have been unable to have my procedure, make the selfish mares think about it.

Aiming4Optimistic · 31/03/2026 16:14

You should refuse both visits properly tbh, not just put them off a bit. You need to send a message that your home is closed to them.

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