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Grandparents involvement

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Chunkychips23 · 29/03/2026 18:47

To preface, in no way do I think i’m owed childcare or that our parents shouldn’t enjoy their retirement. They’ve all worked hard and deserve lots of ‘me time’

AIBU to be a bit annoyed by being let down by Grandparents?

We don’t ask either of our mums to babysit that often. My mum has babysat three times in 2.5yrs, never in an evening, overnight or more than three hours. We chose to have children and their our responsibility for sure, but there are times we need support.

Bit of background:

My mum was brilliant when she first retired two years ago. She happily came up once a week to help out, especially as I was so unwell post birth with my first. I’ve never asked that of her, it was always something she wanted to do. Lately, she’s stopped visiting as frequently and when she does, appears completely bored and disinterested. She’ll offer to watch my children (two under two) for 30mins so I can speed clean my house, which I was very grateful for. But the last few times, she’s either sat on her phone talking to her friend whilst the kids are left unsupervised or doom scrolling on social media whilst my baby has helped himself to a packet of paracetamol from her handbag and is sat chewing the packet, whilst my toddler is crying for her attention.

She offered to have my toddler when I went into labour with my 2nd. During my final weeks of pregnancy, she’d decided to book herself a last minute holiday as it had been a couple of months since she’d been away. She knows how unpredictable babies can be. It was her literal career for several decades, but she said she wanted to go as it was quiet with her hobbies. I ended up going into labour whilst she was away and she threw a massive strop about how her holiday was ruined. My in-laws offered to look after our toddler but only until she got back as they had plans later in the day for dinner. You can imagine how stressful that was. My mum kept calling me to say how she was tired travelling back and why couldn’t I wait until she’d come back. My MIL kept texting my husband for updates on when my mum was coming or if he’d come back as soon as the baby was born or sooner if it came to close to their cutoff.

My MIL hasn’t been the most pleasant to me since having my 1st. Though she’s massively improved, she still occasionally throws a few sly comments my way. She came over relentlessly in the newborn period, not to help, but be hosted. 24hrs postpartum after a long labour and significant PPH, wanting to know what DH was serving for lunch. Proceeded to stay the entire day, telling me how unwell I looked, doing absolutely nothing to help, watching my husband fight for his life with a confused and overstimulated toddler and me barely able to walk. DH called it a day when she asked what was for dinner 😅 When she left, she said she was so glad she was able to help. That was a pattern until my youngest started wanting to explore rather than be held. Then she disappeared. Same with my 1st.

Because of all the above, we just don’t bother asking for support. If they offer it, great, but we don’t expect it.

I’ve been trying to be seen by the gynae team since my 2nd born was four weeks old with a suspected prolapse. DH was called into an urgent meeting the first attempt at an appointment so it was rescheduled. The 2nd date given, he was away with work and neither mums were available. The last two appointments I’d asked both mums who said to just give them the date and time and they’d make it work. Both cancelled last minute. The latest one, my mum promised she’d make it work and agreed to look after the kids for an hour so I could go. She text yesterday to say her friend has a birthday lunch so she can no longer have the kids as she doesn’t want to miss it and to ask MIL instead. I’ve asked MIL who said she’d do it, but has text today to say it’s her monthly WI country walk and she’s going to that instead. DH is trying to rearrange his work trip, but as it’s been booked months in advance is looking unlikely. The nature of his work means that he’s away often.

I just feel so let down by both mums. My Dad is useless and we’ve been low contact for several years. He remarried years ago and decided he wanted to focus on his new family. FIL is the eldest grandparent by 10yrs and isn’t the bio father of DH and his siblings, so didn’t come into their lives until they were early teens - he says he doesn’t have a clue what to do with children.

Ive mentioned to them before how we’re trying to arrange paid for childcare, but struggling. Both mums have rubbished that idea and said that’s what they’re here for, but have yet to step up. They see paid for childcare as embarrassing to me and to them (it implies that they don’t help apparently)

Both parents promised they’d support us, but haven’t. We’ve brought it up to both of them separately. It’s met with “you just don’t understand how busy I am in retirement” and “I’ve done my bit”

Ive expressed to my mum how frustrated I am. I don’t take advantage, I don’t ask unless I’m desperate, which she always says to do but there’s always something more important. She said she did it without help (she didn’t, we spent a lot of time at grandparents during the holidays) She said I’m being unreasonable to be annoyed as she’s raised her kids and worked for forty years in healthcare, it’s her time now. My MIL said something similar to my husband and told him to stop whining. Fine, but they both said yes yet again and then cancelled when a better offer came in. It’s literally an hour with their grandkids who they all make hardly any time to see. There’s no hands on care involved. The baby will be napping for the whole time and my toddler is quite content playing with his toys.

AIBU to feel let down? I don’t ask for regular childcare, we’re not asking so we can go out on a date together. I’m literally in so much discomfort, I need medical help. I’ve asked, but I can’t take the children with me to the appointment. It’s an hour out of their time.

Sorry if it’s a bit rambly and all over the place.

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JeepersItsTheKraken · 30/03/2026 09:38

OP I'm so sorry you are in the position. You have a suspected prolapse, which must be making you feel uncomfortable and worried, and yet everyone is acting like it's bottom of the to do list. This is your health, your body. You are not being unreasonable to feel totally let down by people who are supposed to care about you. This isn't even about whether GPs shouls help with kids, it's about whether GPs and your DH care about your health enough to sort childcare while you seek medical attention. In this situation I would look at babysitters, but would expect DH to cancel works plans if no other solution is available.

SailingYachty · 30/03/2026 09:53

That’s just so crap op, I’m sorry they’re so unhelpful. If I were you I’d be looking into paid childcare. There must be other mums that use childminders that you could look at using. You need some kind of back up available, what if you became ill or need more appointments?

Chunkychips23 · 30/03/2026 10:10

aWeeCornishPastie · 30/03/2026 08:21

MIL in particular sounds awful and your own mother sounds like she’s just given up. Feel for you

We would only visit our grandparents really for childcare. We didn’t see them regularly due to the distance, but would be dropped off for a week with each side during the summer holidays or they’d come to us when my parents wanted a break kid free. My Dad’s parents had to get three trains to come help out, but they did it when my parents needed them. Our mums have a 30/40min drive.

DH was in boarding school during term time and then with his grandparents most of the time during the holidays. Prior to school, he’d be at GP’s pretty much every weekend and they’d take him and siblings to nursery.

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Luckyingame · 30/03/2026 10:12

Weeelokthen · 29/03/2026 19:17

I"m sorry you have shitty parents and in laws. I would not have been able to work, being a sp without my dp's.
Hopefully you will be too busy with your life when they get older and need to be taken to appointments/shopping.

Shitty parents/in - laws?
Because they are choosing to live their own lives??
Hope they have enough money for paid help, if they need some later.

Chunkychips23 · 30/03/2026 10:15

HoppingPavlova · 30/03/2026 07:23

watching my husband fight for his life with a confused and overstimulated toddler and me barely able to walk

Maybe things are overly dramatic and they are stepping back accordingly? Your DH was in no way fighting for his life, he just had to look after one grumpy toddler and get you some food/drinks. He just needed to tell them they had to help themselves to anything they wanted.

You need to stop relying on them and other working parents and use a babysitter for important medical appointments. Doesn’t matter if your kids don’t like the babysitter, too bad, it’s not for days or months, it’s a few hours, they will cope. Don’t cancel appointments you need.

That was a phrase, not an exact scenario, obviously. I’d had a 30hr labour and neither of us had slept. To step back, you have to have actually been present in the first place. In-laws are asked regularly to help themselves, but don’t. They expect to be hosted. DH has been working on enforcing boundaries with them. Sticking the kettle on or getting a glass of water shouldn’t be the ordeal for them that it is, especially when they can see we’re in the midsts of it.

As mentioned in other replies, we are actively looking for paid childcare.

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Starrystarrybright · 30/03/2026 10:18

Ok let them be . They have busy lives and other priorities. Remember that when they get Old and want you to step up and help them.

Blogswife · 30/03/2026 10:21

These women are selfish to constantly let you down however they are showing their true feelings. They are telling you very clearly that they don’t want to provide childcare of any kind
Of course retired parents shouldn’t have to give up their hard earned retirement to become their adult DC childcare . Thats unreasonable to expect unless of course they offer however you’d think they prioritise the bond with their DGC enough to spend quality time with them & help you out once in a while
As with any situation, once a promise has been made it should be honoured , especially something like childcare to cover an important appointment
Quite honestly Op you need to stop relying on them Dont include them in anything & play them at their own game , cancelling last minute on any plans you’ve already made
YANBU to feel let down but YABU to think this is going to change anytime soon

Puffalicious · 30/03/2026 10:34

Honestly, OP, I think you've had and are having a really awful time with family. I get that people can be busy, but this is selfish & wilful. I really feel for you.

I adore children, & I know not everyone does, but it's their grandchildren!

Honestly, if you were near me & it was a day I wasn't working I'd look after your little ones for the few hours you need. You're a mother needing medical intervention. I just don't understand some people.

Maray1967 · 30/03/2026 11:13

We learned quickly not to expect anything. When i was due to have surgery when DC were 9 and 1 and the date was moved by the hospital back a week into a school holiday, our initial plan was that DH would take a day off work to keep an eye on DS9, and DS1 would be in nursery as usual. Then MIL intervened and said she’d come over. Then a week before she backtracked because - I kid you not - the weather was due to be bad and she wouldn’t have the car and so couldn’t take him anywhere. I pointed out that he’s 9 and all that is needed is just to keep an eye on him and make him a sandwich for lunch. No, it wouldn’t work for her. I ended the call as quickly as i could, rang DH and said iI’d cancel the surgery if he didn’t take the day off, which he did. He knew i was livid but minimised it - she wasn’t thinking sensibly, just a momentary panic, but other relatives later revealed that she’d raised it with them days before and they’d told her not to be silly.

All I could think of at that time was that if my own DM was alive I would never have faced any of that nonsense. Mostly I get on fine with PIL but I have never forgotten that. The surgery was for cancer prevention and led to sterilisation so carried some emotional significance and she came up with that rubbish.

PumpkinScarf · 30/03/2026 12:37

Both incredibly selfish. I’d take the children to your appointment if there is no other option you can’t just miss your appointment you won’t be able to do anything if your health goes. Health comes first.

PumpkinScarf · 30/03/2026 12:38

I also wouldn’t lift a finger for them when they are old and in need of care themselves.

SockPlant · 30/03/2026 12:41

It almost sounds incredibly stressful. But your DH needs to step up.

What was so important a meeting that your appointment needed to be rescheduled?

We live in a different country to our families. We have to be both resourceful and a reliable partner.

Girrafffees87832 · 30/03/2026 12:51

At this point, it's honestly your fault for insisting. They're useless, they don't want to help. They will say they want to, to save face, but they want none of it.

You need to plan accordingly.

I think they're being awful for letting you down repeatedly and I would also be very sad if I were you. But you need to start acting as if they're dead. Not available, ever. Not in an emergency or a regular thing.

thepariscrimefiles · 30/03/2026 13:08

Chunkychips23 · 30/03/2026 10:10

We would only visit our grandparents really for childcare. We didn’t see them regularly due to the distance, but would be dropped off for a week with each side during the summer holidays or they’d come to us when my parents wanted a break kid free. My Dad’s parents had to get three trains to come help out, but they did it when my parents needed them. Our mums have a 30/40min drive.

DH was in boarding school during term time and then with his grandparents most of the time during the holidays. Prior to school, he’d be at GP’s pretty much every weekend and they’d take him and siblings to nursery.

So your mum and your MIL both relied on grandparents for childcare during the school holidays and your MIL sent your DH to boarding school but are unwilling to provide you with even the most minimal help in order for you to attend an urgent medical appointment?

They both sound absolutely shit and I would need to withdraw totally as I would be too angry to be in their company, pretending that everything is OK between us.

Piglet89 · 30/03/2026 13:34

Chunkychips23 · 30/03/2026 10:10

We would only visit our grandparents really for childcare. We didn’t see them regularly due to the distance, but would be dropped off for a week with each side during the summer holidays or they’d come to us when my parents wanted a break kid free. My Dad’s parents had to get three trains to come help out, but they did it when my parents needed them. Our mums have a 30/40min drive.

DH was in boarding school during term time and then with his grandparents most of the time during the holidays. Prior to school, he’d be at GP’s pretty much every weekend and they’d take him and siblings to nursery.

I mean: how much time did your in-laws actually spend with your husband and his siblings when they were raising them?

TBH, they sound like parents who perhaps regretted having kids and so palmed them off to board and when they weren’t living at school, to grandparents.

Given the possibility they don’t like the company of children, it’s hardly surprising they’re not interested in their grandchildren.

I think a surprising proportion of grandparents fall into that category these days. As a PP said, they’re also glued to their phones (but yet seem completely incapable - at least in my parents’ case - of using Google or other resources to work out how to solve problems for themselves).

It is infuriating.

Chunkychips23 · 30/03/2026 13:37

SockPlant · 30/03/2026 12:41

It almost sounds incredibly stressful. But your DH needs to step up.

What was so important a meeting that your appointment needed to be rescheduled?

We live in a different country to our families. We have to be both resourceful and a reliable partner.

Usually he would have done, but there was a company restructure and it was an ‘all hands meeting’ He did try and get out of it, but an appointment wasn’t classed as an emergency, so he had to go in. Generally he has a lot of flexibility, like he’ll work from home if me and the kids are sick to provide extra support. Some things he just can reschedule though like abroad work trips due to others being in attendance and him being the lead. Him not going would mean he’d have to reimburse the company if it was something that wasn’t an emergency. We just can’t afford that.

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Choux · 30/03/2026 16:02

I know what it’s like to be a conscientious employee but would he have rescheduled his own appointment for that meeting? Cos he saw your as optional.

I get maybe rescheduling a GP appointment but everyone knows what NHS waiting lists are like. When you get a hospital appointment you move heaven snd earth to get your loved one there. Except he didn’t.

NadjaofAntipaxos · 30/03/2026 16:47

I second another posters suggestion of naming and shaming on social media if they are so worried by what others think. Ask if anyone can recommend paid babysitters for a medical appointment as unfortunately you don't have family support. If they complain about this, ask them what part of it is untrue.
A WI walk and a friend's birthday lunch coming up as better offers are unbelievably pathetic reasons to let down anyone you've promised help to, let alone your daughter or daughter in-law who needs childcare support for an important medical appointment. I would absolutely be distancing myself. No more invitations for visits to you and no more visits to them. Why bother. They've made it clear how much they give a shit about you and your children.
I understand the hurt. My parents have given hours of regular childcare to the golden grandchild saving my sibling thousands of pounds. As well as letting sibling go off for weeklong holidays while they babysit. They have so begrudged anything for us I vowed never to ask again and I haven't. Luckily we have incredible friends who love our children and I love theirs and we really do have a village. But it will always sting. My kids are bloody lovely so my parents are the ones really missing out.

TwinklySquid · 30/03/2026 18:08

In regards to the medical appointment, have a chat with PALs and say you have no child care and you need the appointment.

With your parents/in laws, I’d grey rock them. It’s not even the lack of help, it’s the constant cancelling. Just stop relying on them. But they can’t rely on you either.

Middleagedspreadisreal · 30/03/2026 18:52

This makes me so sad. I could never put myself before my GC's. I'd give anything to be able to look after mine, but I'm told I'm not needed as 'plenty of others do it alone'. Your DM's don't know how lucky they are.

Nofeckingway · 30/03/2026 19:29

How unfortunate that both the retired mothers are too busy to help you out . How pathetic to put a fucking walk and a lunch before your important medical appointment. How did you keep your compusure when they both said that to you . I just don't understand how they can justify this behavior to themselves.
I come from a culture where maternal support is normal. My friend's mother travelled to Australia to help before and after birth . Stayed a month . My own mother flew to my side too . On certain times my mother helped my friend with her kids during medical appointments as she could drive and her own mother could not . I now help my friend with her grandson if she is not available. I often help young neighbors too as I remember how hard it is to juggle everything when you have young kids .

Shame on them .

TomatoSandwiches · 30/03/2026 19:35

I think your mother is absolutely awful, not as a grandmother but as a mother I couldn't let my own daughter go on with a medical problem like this if I could help.

I hope she keeps the same attitude when she needs help.

PoppinjayPolly · 30/03/2026 19:37

Thoughts on the non helping male family members @Nofeckingway ?

Chunkychips23 · 30/03/2026 19:49

PoppinjayPolly · 30/03/2026 19:37

Thoughts on the non helping male family members @Nofeckingway ?

As mentioned in other posts, FIL is in his 80’s (the eldest GP by 10yrs) and has zero experience with young children (he’s DH’s stepfather) and has never helped with any of the other grandchildren other than giving them lifts. He’s showing signs of cognitive decline and had a fall recently, but refuses to get assessed. He drove the wrong way home the other day. I just don’t think he’s either safe nor would he be willing even if we felt comfortable with him watching our children. He’s also old fashioned and sees children as ‘women’s work’ 🙄

I don’t have that much of a relationship with my Dad, other than a once yearly visit. His choice, pretty much cut me and sibling off when he remarried 15yrs ago. Even if he wasn’t MIA, he lives 100miles away.

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Piglet89 · 30/03/2026 19:53

To all those whingeing about the men not helping: it’s not a race to the bottom. Just because the grandfathers don’t help, doesn’t mean the grandmothers’ selfishness and lack of compassion should be automatically excused.