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16yo ds seeing much older man in London, ds1 has made it 100x worse, dont know what to do know

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kettleonbutnoidea · 28/03/2026 16:10

i dont even know where to start tbh this has all come out in the last couple of weeks and i feel like im constantly on the back foot

my ds2 is 16 (17 in summer) and has been talking to someone online for a while which I DIDNT KNOW about until recently. turns out its a man in his 30s living in london. ds says they have “met a few times” which actually means hes been getting the train down there on his own. i only found this out because his brother saw messages on his phone

before anyone says yes ive had the talk about safety etc but hes insisting its all fine and that hes happy. says im making it weird and that age is just a number which hasnt exactly reassured me

then ds1 (22) completely lost it. tracked the man down online and basically messaged him threatening him. i dont know exactly what was said but it was bad enough that the man replied saying he’d go to the police if it carried on. now ds2 is furious with all of us, says weve embarrassed him and is barely speaking to me

since then hes even more secretive and has said hes going to stay in london “for a bit” over easter. i feel sick writing that but i dont know if i can physically stop him and im worried if i push too hard he’ll just go anyway and cut me off

im stuck between thinking this is completely wrong and also not wanting to drive him further away

AIBU to be this worried or do i need to back off a bit now its all blown up?

OP posts:
Ffsreally24 · 29/03/2026 13:13

I really feel for you OP. Your son is at college so there will be a designated safeguarding lead there. Can you speak to them?
I think someone else may have mentioned this but if there has been any exchange of sexual images then this is an offence as your son isn’t 18.
You are not to blame for any of this. Your son is being groomed.

Arran2024 · 29/03/2026 13:32

The relevance of the Huw Edwards case is that he was prosecuted for the images of children sent to him by a convicted paedophile but the dramatisation largely revolves around allegations made by a 17 year old called Ryan. Ryan's family went tovthe police the BBC, the newspapers. Huw Edwards had apparently sent him large amounts of money and Ryan had sent him pics. But this case went no further.

And this is why 17 is a grey area.

I suspect that social workers will be more interested than the police if the family want to complain.

I know a family where their gay son had gone into care as he kept absconding and going to London to see men. The local authority wasn't able to keep him any safer - he just absconded from their children's home and got up to London.

He was promiscuous and was happy to offer sexual favours to get into the gay clubs.

All social services could do was mop up afterwards and try to keep him safe with regular sexual health checks.

The police did absolutely nothing.

There is a huge threshold to get the CPS to prosecute. It would probably require the young man to give evidence as a witness and they often won't do this.

Imo the OP could get some support for her son by approaching local safeguarding but the chances of proving grooming and getting a conviction are less easy.

SoManyTshirts · 29/03/2026 13:33

Can you ask for a Clare’s law disclosure?

likelysuspect · 29/03/2026 13:42

Frenzi · 29/03/2026 13:05

I find this so worrying that OP has still not done anything about this.

Why on earth does she think a 30 year old would have anything in common with a 16 year old other than for grooming purposes!!

A strange and unhelpful and berating post

No where does she indicate or imply that she thinks that a 30 year old man would have anything in common with a 16 year old teen

She is as worried as anything about it and is clear she does not think its appropriate at all

You have no idea what she 'still' has or hasnt done yet. She's trying to work her way through conflicting advice on this thread and navigate the relationship with her son who is now distrustful of her so she has to take it slowly so she doesnt push him away.

Pherian · 29/03/2026 13:49

kettleonbutnoidea · 28/03/2026 16:10

i dont even know where to start tbh this has all come out in the last couple of weeks and i feel like im constantly on the back foot

my ds2 is 16 (17 in summer) and has been talking to someone online for a while which I DIDNT KNOW about until recently. turns out its a man in his 30s living in london. ds says they have “met a few times” which actually means hes been getting the train down there on his own. i only found this out because his brother saw messages on his phone

before anyone says yes ive had the talk about safety etc but hes insisting its all fine and that hes happy. says im making it weird and that age is just a number which hasnt exactly reassured me

then ds1 (22) completely lost it. tracked the man down online and basically messaged him threatening him. i dont know exactly what was said but it was bad enough that the man replied saying he’d go to the police if it carried on. now ds2 is furious with all of us, says weve embarrassed him and is barely speaking to me

since then hes even more secretive and has said hes going to stay in london “for a bit” over easter. i feel sick writing that but i dont know if i can physically stop him and im worried if i push too hard he’ll just go anyway and cut me off

im stuck between thinking this is completely wrong and also not wanting to drive him further away

AIBU to be this worried or do i need to back off a bit now its all blown up?

Why the hell are you not onto the police ?

LassitersLegend · 29/03/2026 13:51

I can't understand why you've not contacted the police, I understand he's of "legal age" now however what age was he when he started talking to this paedophile. I would start parenting my child and not allow them to stay in London and I'd be contacting this man in his thirties.

justasking111 · 29/03/2026 13:55

If @kettleonbutnoidea had followed the Huw Edwards story she'd know her son has been groomed and I'll bet this man has done it before.

There was a poster on here who found medications in her sons room. Anti AIDS ones he was taking because of his sexual habits.

PensionedCruiser · 29/03/2026 14:01

@kettleonbutnoidea, the advice to parents whose teenagers are involved with "unsuitable" (for whatever reason) people has always been to invite said person to your home for a meal or something similar. This used to be the standard response by the agony aunts, for good reasons which I won't go into here - except to say that even declining the invitation would say something to the teenager. The lure of a 'secret' love can often lessen enormously when it isn't so secret.

Unfortunately, your DS1 has destroyed the possibility of inviting your DS2's friend to your home, so that leaves you with 2 options as far as I can see - the nuclear one, which involves authorities and the possibility of driving him away (as you say, he is nearly 17 and any official barriers put up now will be taken down every soon) - or you making every effort to meet the man (with DS2) so that you can find out for yourself what the situation is. Gut feelings are probably very important here, but seeing them both interact in front of you could be helpful, even if it makes you more worried. You could probably see more clearly what you need to do.

I hope that you manage to resolve your issue for the good of your younger son ♥️

ByBreezyUser · 29/03/2026 14:05

PensionedCruiser · 29/03/2026 14:01

@kettleonbutnoidea, the advice to parents whose teenagers are involved with "unsuitable" (for whatever reason) people has always been to invite said person to your home for a meal or something similar. This used to be the standard response by the agony aunts, for good reasons which I won't go into here - except to say that even declining the invitation would say something to the teenager. The lure of a 'secret' love can often lessen enormously when it isn't so secret.

Unfortunately, your DS1 has destroyed the possibility of inviting your DS2's friend to your home, so that leaves you with 2 options as far as I can see - the nuclear one, which involves authorities and the possibility of driving him away (as you say, he is nearly 17 and any official barriers put up now will be taken down every soon) - or you making every effort to meet the man (with DS2) so that you can find out for yourself what the situation is. Gut feelings are probably very important here, but seeing them both interact in front of you could be helpful, even if it makes you more worried. You could probably see more clearly what you need to do.

I hope that you manage to resolve your issue for the good of your younger son ♥️

Why on earth would you invite someone who has clearly been grooming your child for a meal?

abbynabby23 · 29/03/2026 14:07

kettleonbutnoidea · 28/03/2026 16:10

i dont even know where to start tbh this has all come out in the last couple of weeks and i feel like im constantly on the back foot

my ds2 is 16 (17 in summer) and has been talking to someone online for a while which I DIDNT KNOW about until recently. turns out its a man in his 30s living in london. ds says they have “met a few times” which actually means hes been getting the train down there on his own. i only found this out because his brother saw messages on his phone

before anyone says yes ive had the talk about safety etc but hes insisting its all fine and that hes happy. says im making it weird and that age is just a number which hasnt exactly reassured me

then ds1 (22) completely lost it. tracked the man down online and basically messaged him threatening him. i dont know exactly what was said but it was bad enough that the man replied saying he’d go to the police if it carried on. now ds2 is furious with all of us, says weve embarrassed him and is barely speaking to me

since then hes even more secretive and has said hes going to stay in london “for a bit” over easter. i feel sick writing that but i dont know if i can physically stop him and im worried if i push too hard he’ll just go anyway and cut me off

im stuck between thinking this is completely wrong and also not wanting to drive him further away

AIBU to be this worried or do i need to back off a bit now its all blown up?

Sorry you are going through this. My advice is try to talk to your son and make sure he can come back to you no matter what. When I was a teenager I was like your son, very rebellious, going to different cities to see guys etc. Thinking back I feel so sorry for my mum. I was horrible. But there is no way you can stop him. He ll just find new ways to lie to you. You take his phone, he can borrow/get another. Tell him not to go London, he will tell you he is going somewhere and make his friend lie to you. Been there, done all that. Just sit down and have an honest conversation. Make sure he knows he can call you anytime, even in the middle of the night, explain to him all the dangers he can encounter etc. and trust that you have raised him responsibly. It’s mot easy! Good luck and hope you son stays safe

Ohduckie · 29/03/2026 14:09

I'm sorry to scare you, but please please please get help asap. This is grooming and pe@dophillic. Your son's life could be in danger. NSPCC can help: https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/types-of-abuse/grooming/

likelysuspect · 29/03/2026 14:09

PensionedCruiser · 29/03/2026 14:01

@kettleonbutnoidea, the advice to parents whose teenagers are involved with "unsuitable" (for whatever reason) people has always been to invite said person to your home for a meal or something similar. This used to be the standard response by the agony aunts, for good reasons which I won't go into here - except to say that even declining the invitation would say something to the teenager. The lure of a 'secret' love can often lessen enormously when it isn't so secret.

Unfortunately, your DS1 has destroyed the possibility of inviting your DS2's friend to your home, so that leaves you with 2 options as far as I can see - the nuclear one, which involves authorities and the possibility of driving him away (as you say, he is nearly 17 and any official barriers put up now will be taken down every soon) - or you making every effort to meet the man (with DS2) so that you can find out for yourself what the situation is. Gut feelings are probably very important here, but seeing them both interact in front of you could be helpful, even if it makes you more worried. You could probably see more clearly what you need to do.

I hope that you manage to resolve your issue for the good of your younger son ♥️

I dont think the older sons actions have actually, I think it gives OP a good leg in to say 'gosh Im sorry your friend felt like that, lets all be clear that he's welcome anytime, I dont think that he is good 'boyfriend' material because he is far too old but respect he is your friend and your choice so it would be lovely to meet him and clear the air'

What actions come out of that would need to be acted on at that point, ie the bloke does a runner or you actually find out more about him and have more evidence tht a crime has been committed or the boy gets disinterested because mum is all over it.

Know your enemy and keep them close.

WTTE

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 14:11

justasking111 · 29/03/2026 13:55

If @kettleonbutnoidea had followed the Huw Edwards story she'd know her son has been groomed and I'll bet this man has done it before.

There was a poster on here who found medications in her sons room. Anti AIDS ones he was taking because of his sexual habits.

Once again, Huw Edwards was not charged with anything in relation to the 17 year old as no offence had been committed.

This misinformation isn’t helpful.

justasking111 · 29/03/2026 14:15

JonesTown · 29/03/2026 14:11

Once again, Huw Edwards was not charged with anything in relation to the 17 year old as no offence had been committed.

This misinformation isn’t helpful.

She'd have been a bit more clued up though. And I didn't say he was charged.

busybusybusy2015 · 29/03/2026 14:20

I'm risking getting a pile-on for this, but here goes. Can we please stop diluting the horror of actual paedophilia? Paedophilia is about children, often prepubescent but in UK law under 16. It's evil, damaging and beyond understanding. Older men who sleep with sexually mature teenagers are not paedophiles. They're dirty old men and/or predators, using power, money, status and emotional manipulation to get a young person into bed. Some men have always done that - throughout time, throughout the world. I don't get why people are calling it paedophilia to have sex with a 16 year old. If you dont agree with me one bit, and genuinely think paedophilia is the right word for this context, it means you're making a personal judgement of what you think is an inappropriate age difference (so, would you say 'paedophilia' if a 16 year old's sexual partner is 17? 22? 26?). I'm very uncomfortable about the slippery slope of passing a moral judgement on all age-gap relationships.. Thinking hard about this: my husband's older than me. I realise I was still a (legal!) teenager when we met, he wasn't. Does anyone seriously think that makes him a paedophile?

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 29/03/2026 14:22

ByBreezyUser · 29/03/2026 14:05

Why on earth would you invite someone who has clearly been grooming your child for a meal?

To stop them isolating her child and making it seem like it’s them against the world.

ThatFairy · 29/03/2026 14:25

LassitersLegend · 29/03/2026 13:51

I can't understand why you've not contacted the police, I understand he's of "legal age" now however what age was he when he started talking to this paedophile. I would start parenting my child and not allow them to stay in London and I'd be contacting this man in his thirties.

When my DS was 16 if I'd grounded him he'd just have started an argument and walked out. I think especially when father's aren't around they can be hard to control at that age. This isn't OPs fault

Lennon80 · 29/03/2026 14:27

If this was referred to children’s services (or the police), they would usually approach it as possible child sexual exploitation / grooming, not just a “relationship issue.”

They would likely:

1. Carry out a safeguarding assessment

  • Speak to you and your son
  • Try to understand:
  • How contact started
  • Power imbalance (age, control, secrecy)
  • Whether there’s coercion, gifts, pressure, or emotional dependency

Even if your son says he’s happy, professionals don’t rely on that alone at 16.

2. Consider multi-agency involvement

They may involve:

  • Police (especially given the age gap and meetings)
  • School/college
  • Health services

This can become a multi-agency safeguarding response, not just a parenting issue.

3. Focus on risk, not blame

They won’t be looking to “get you in trouble” — they’ll be asking:

  • Is this young person safe?
  • Is there a risk of harm or exploitation?
  • How can we reduce that risk?

4. Potential actions

Depending on what they find:

  • Disruption activity (e.g. police warning the adult)
  • Safety planning with your son
  • Encouraging him to stop contact (but not always forcing — because of his age)
  • Supporting you to manage it at home

The really difficult reality

At 16 in the UK:

  • He is below 18 (still a child in safeguarding terms)
  • But also old enough to resist control and make his own decisions in practice

That’s why this feels so stuck — you can’t physically stop him, but the risk is still real.

What you can do (right now)

This is the bit that matters most.

1. Keep the relationship with your son intact

I know it’s incredibly hard, but if he feels:

  • judged
  • controlled
  • or “ganged up on”

…he’s more likely to:

  • go anyway
  • stop telling you anything

Try to shift tone slightly from:

“This is wrong”

to:

“I’m worried about your safety — help me understand what this is like for you”

That doesn’t mean you approve — it keeps the door open.

2. Be honest about your concern (without escalating)

You can say things like:

  • “I’m not angry that you care about someone”
  • “I am worried about the age difference and your safety”
  • “If anything ever felt off, you could tell me and I wouldn’t say ‘I told you so’”

That last bit is huge.

3. Try to get basic safety information

Even if he won’t stop, aim for:

  • Where he’s staying
  • A contact number
  • Agreement to check in

It may feel like you’re “allowing it,” but actually you’re reducing risk.

4. Address what happened with his brother

Right now your younger son likely feels:

  • exposed
  • humiliated
  • controlled

Even if ds1 was acting out of protection, it escalated things.

It might help to say:

  • “That situation got out of hand — I’m sorry it’s made things harder for you”

You’re not endorsing the situation — you’re repairing trust.

5. Get support yourself

You don’t have to manage this alone. You could:

  • Speak to your GP
  • Contact your local safeguarding hub (you can do this as a parent)
  • Reach out to organisations like:
  • about:blank NSPCC (they have a helpline for parents in exactly this situation)

They can advise without immediately “blowing things up.”

About the man

I’ll be direct, because it matters:

A man in his 30s forming a secret relationship with a 16-year-old, and facilitating trips to London without parental knowledge, is a significant red flag from a safeguarding perspective.

Even if your son experiences it as mutual, the power imbalance alone is enough for concern.

LassitersLegend · 29/03/2026 14:27

Mine would be locked in the house, but I'd be taking all forms of communication and money off them. I know they'll try and find away, but I think the op could parent a lot better than she is doing.

QuintadosMalvados · 29/03/2026 14:28

abbynabby23 · 29/03/2026 14:07

Sorry you are going through this. My advice is try to talk to your son and make sure he can come back to you no matter what. When I was a teenager I was like your son, very rebellious, going to different cities to see guys etc. Thinking back I feel so sorry for my mum. I was horrible. But there is no way you can stop him. He ll just find new ways to lie to you. You take his phone, he can borrow/get another. Tell him not to go London, he will tell you he is going somewhere and make his friend lie to you. Been there, done all that. Just sit down and have an honest conversation. Make sure he knows he can call you anytime, even in the middle of the night, explain to him all the dangers he can encounter etc. and trust that you have raised him responsibly. It’s mot easy! Good luck and hope you son stays safe

Good advice. There's really no point going to the police about this. There really isn't:
'He's 16, not our concern, madam. '
(was it actually a good idea to lower the age of consent for gay men to 16? I couldn't possibly comment.)

I'm assuming you're female well this young lad is probably even more, erm, interested in sex than you were as he's a male. No disrespect intended.
So it's going to be more difficult to control him.
I don't know what rarefied world other posters live in but there's really nothing the police and authorities can do about this.
We have people living on the streets.
Do they really think they're going to investigate a boy of legal age having apparently consensual activity with a man he's unrelated to?

It's cloud feckin' cuckoo land.

It's best if the rest of the family are calm and non-judgemental on the surface, anyway.

Namechange837465 · 29/03/2026 14:33

Iv name changed and iv never admitted this to anyone but thus happened to me. When I was 15 and at school, I had friends, I came from a good family and I was reasonably outgoing. My parents had a difficult relationship but looking back i dont no what my problem was, for some reason, i just had this inner shyness and was always self conscious, i wanted a bf and to be like the 'cool girls'. I used to go on chat rooms at night, this was back in early 2000's and I started chatting to this man who claimed to be 19. When we moved to talking on the phone he admitted he was 35 when pressed as I remember he didnt sound at all like a 19 yr old. Anyway I kept chatting to him, we would talk for hours a day. Then he would visit me when my parents were working and id miss school. The first time I actually met him, was at a weekend and in the nearest city centre, at this point id turned 16. My mum found out a few months later, she phoned him and he told her he was married and I was nothing to him etc, she warned him off and took my phone off me. I didnt believe he was married and was mortified by the whole thing and never spoke to my mum about it again. Eventually I got my phone back, and contact restarted. It was a long time ago now, im late 30's but i remember we were in contact for a long time and then when I went to uni, he became jealous that I had more guy friends and my life was busier and would stop coming to see me so we eventually drifted apart. I remember being sad at drifting apart and wondering why he seemed less interested in me as I was getting older. During the couple of years of us being in contact, i considered us to be in a relationship and thought we would get married etc down the line. Occasionally we would be in touch in my early 20's but as old friends kind of thing. He would buy me things or give me advice sometimes. Anyway now looking back im sickened by the whole thing. Im reasonably sure from gfoogle searches that he was married with his own kids when he would see me. I dont no what my mum couldn't have done to stop me seeing him because I genuinely loved him. I guess it had to run its course and I needed to grow up and for it not to work out naturally. I was lucky I guess that he never posed me any physical danger - we had sex which i see now was abuse (whether i was 16 or not) but i wasnt being physically hurt. I often wonder if reporting him would do any good because of the fact I was 16 when anything happened even though i was groomed from 15 but I also do have some fear around reporting him for various reasons. I guess this isnt that helpful but all I can say from someone who went through similar is just to be there for your son. No matter what happens just make sure he always knows you love him and he will always be able to come back to you, that he can phone u at any hour of the day etc if he is in trouble and you will help him

MikeRafone · 29/03/2026 14:56

The cynic in me thinks you’ll have more success with the police if you can list the gift 🎁 trainers cash for trains to London, hoody,

this will add far more to the grooming as evidence

shadylane · 29/03/2026 14:58

The police really won’t care as nothing illegal js happening.

Jaxhog · 29/03/2026 15:02

Have you suggested that you and this man have a conversation? Tell Ds2 that this is just because you're worried about him seeing someone you don't know.

LBFseBrom · 29/03/2026 15:11

LassitersLegend · 29/03/2026 14:27

Mine would be locked in the house, but I'd be taking all forms of communication and money off them. I know they'll try and find away, but I think the op could parent a lot better than she is doing.

That is not fair, Lassiters. The op is parenting alone and the boy is not a child, albeit still under 18. There's a limit to what she can do.