Ambulances Set on Fire in Suspected Anti Jewish Attack

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Horrible news that ambulances run by a Jewish charity have been set on fire in Golders Green today.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyj1p49gdpo

AIBU to feel it's got to to with the rise in anti Jewish hate since the allowance of horrible slogans on the weekly marches and in everyday society? What on earth makes people commit such a horrible attack.

I'm 100% with the Jewish community and pray for peace.

The synagogue next to where the ambulances were parked. The windows were blown out in the explosion.

Googled ‘synagogue explosion’ and got distracted by one a couple weeks ago in Belgium that I’d missed altogether 😭😭

Just wanted to say I think this is a beautiful post x

Great, we should be really happy that a bunch of racists found a racist reason for their racist attack. It’s OK, everyone, it wasn’t random!

The Guardian, in case people don’t know, recently published an article in which they equated a Gail’s bakery opening in the same street as a Palestinian owned bakery to ‘heavy handed oppression’. I really don’t think that a newspaper that can relate baked goods to Gaza is going to have the slightest problem relating a synagogue to Gaza…

@Anactor "The Guardian, in case people don’t know, recently published an article in which they equated a Gail’s bakery opening in the same street as a Palestinian owned bakery to ‘heavy handed oppression’"

What on earth ? 🤔

I wouldn’t believe one word published by the Guardian. But regardless, a synagogue community is allowed to have various viewpoints without being firebombed.

“A Corner of North London Where Food Has Become A Battle Ground in the Israel-Gaza War”, 14th March 2026. I’m not linking to it because I don’t think they should get the clicks. But it’s real.

Bonkers.

Absolutely completely bonkers.🙄

They were quoting from the English section of a video released by an organization in the Middle East that had claimed responsibility for the attack. That English section itself looks to have been lifted from a Wikipedia page or something similar, and could easily be entirely opportunistic.

I am told the police were out making raids in parts of North West London today, so maybe we'll find out more.

In any event, the Guardian never passes up any opportunity to "contextualize" violence against Jews.

The whole thing is devoid of any logic; the ambulances weren't owned by the Synagogue in whose car park they were parked. Was the intended target the Syngagogue and the arsonists were just distracted by the shiny stickers on the ambulances?

In what world is an attack on Jewish community ambulances any more "random" than an attack on a Jewish place of worship?

Yes agree with you, it wasn’t random it was deliberate.

Israel'sresponse was absolutely disproportionate. No whether or not about it.
The children, the disabled people..they were surely not Hamas and I'm sure the IDF knew that. There are some shocking tales of cruelty completely above and beyond going after Hamas

According to "The National" (on line)

"One of the channels has now claimed Ashab al Yamin is behind the arson and posted a message with the group's logo.
An unverified video posted at 6.13am on Monday on its Telegram channel showed street view Google Maps images of the ambulances and footage of explosions.
At the start of the video posted on Telegram, a message in English said the group’s primary target was the Machzike Hadath Synagogue due to its links to Israel."

Where do you get this idea that war has to be proportionate? It's war not a weight ranked boxing match!

2,403 Americans were killed at Pearl Harbor by the Japanese. In the ensuing conflict 3.1 million Japanese were killed. This looks disproportionate, so after say a few hundred thousand should the Americans have eased up a bit in their efforts to defeat Japan because it might not be seen as proportionate?

Argentina started the Falklands War where 255 British were killed compared to 650 Argentinians. Should the British have eased up after 246 Argentinians?

No because that's not how war works. If you attack another country then you accept the consequences both to your military, your Government and your civilian population. If you don't want those consequences then don't attack another country.

Prior to Hamas’s Oct 7 attack, their attacks were continual. The terrorist group was firing rockets indiscriminately at Israeli population centres on a daily basis.

This poses an interesting question that critics of Israel, like yourself, seldom think about: 'what is the ethical and proportional response to indiscriminate rocket attacks on a civilian population by a terrorist entity?'

Seriously you are desperately trying to create an offence where there isn't one.

"Islamo-leftism" is a recognised political alliance which comprises of a "Islamo" part and a "leftism" part (note: clue is in the name).

You then desperately try and create an artificial offence when in the above context the term "Islamo" was used, it's interesting that you are selective on perceived offence and don't seem so upset about the term "leftism".

This is a tangent to the original discussion (which again I'm saying is rooted in anti-Semitism and is abhorrent), but just wanted to say that my own position is any loss of civilian life is unjust. 3.1 million lives is an unfathomable tragedy and the use of nuclear weapons by the USA was a disproportionate and unjustifiable response

I understand that Hamas shielded themselves within the general population and used infrastructure like hospitals to do so, but it doesn't make the loss of innocent lives in Gaza any less horrific. The assaults by certain members of the IDF on children when they were not posing any danger was particularly disgusting.

War is never going to be perfectly proportional, but we can strive to remain as human as we can in times of conflict. We can also recognise when members of our own communities have acted atrociously and call it out when required. I don't believe we can sweep it under a carpet of 'these are the realities of war', because it doesn't have to be this way and this is precisely why we have international law that outlines what constitutes a war crime

Again, I will say that I have absolute sympathy for Jews worldwide - it has been millennia of persecution, attempted genocides, and discrimination that they have had to contend with. I also agree that Israel has had to contend with constant and pervasive threats to its existence. But that's not to say that individuals within the IDF bolstered by the likes of Netanyahu aren't causing a whole host of issues within the region, and that their actions haven't created a convenient tool for anti Semites worldwide to use to justify attacks on the general wider Jewish population.

This is silly.

Antisemites try to kill Jews whether they are compliant passive Jews or angry Jews with weapons who are willing to defend themselves. It's been tried both ways, and it doesn't make any difference to the number of people who try to kill Jews. Meanwhile Jews always get blamed for being the wrong kind of Jews - too passive, to compliant, or too responsive and disproportionate. (I accept that it's possible there's exactly the right kind of Jew who responds in the permitted and approved way when people try to kill them, but nobody seems to have mastered the nuance required to be that kind of Jew.)

Personally I think fewer Jews die when Jews have much bigger scarier weapons than the people who are trying to kill Jews, and when the Jews who have those bigger scarier weapons demonstrate they won't hesitate to use them on the people who are trying to kill Jews.

Your entire post is basically "her skirt was too short."

I can see that you are coming from an idealistic standpoint and whilst I agree that any loss of civilian life is a tragedy and whilst it is "not justified", it is a consequence and a sad reality of war, where the best means of avoiding civilian deaths is to not start a war in the first place. The blame for the horrific deaths of Gazan civilians is on Hamas for starting the conflict with a horrific terrorist attack.

As for following international laws on warfare, these were drawn up in the immediate aftermath of WW2, where Country A attacked Country B. By using terrorist proxies, attacking non participant countries Iran is not following international laws so there is no obligation on the US or Israel or whoever else to do so.

If you decide to take the moral high ground, fighting an adversary and follow international laws, whilst the other side doesn't then quite you will lose.

This whole thread is riddled with abhorrent, nasty, and vindictive anti Semitism.

I agree with you that there is a pervasive anti semitism that doesn't respond to the actions of Jews and takes any opportunity to attack. I also understand that without a state of Israel there would be no nation that would be invested maintaining the safety of its Jewish population in the longterm.

However, to not acknowledge that members of the IDF have committed heinous crimes against innocent civilians is beyond me - what happened to Hind Rajab and countless young Gazan children was horrendous and is going to spark outrage, which has then been coopted by malicious and violent people to then (in their eyes) justify further crimes against innocent (Jewish) people abroad. But to sweep the murder of innocent children under the rug of war is beyond me - deaths like Hind's are not as uncommon as they should be, and they were done in cold blood, not just from misfortune of being near a bomb at the wrong time

If they'd wanted to target the synagogue they would have targeted the synagogue and not ambulances.

More importantly, I don't care about what ties the synagogue may or may not have had to Israel - it's not a legitimate target for fire bombing and anyone claiming or insinuating otherwise would be an absolute fucking idiot. Plus, no one seems to ever bother mentioning what these ties might be because people don't care about facts. They care about fun little sound bites that can be easily circulated on TikTok.

Once again anti-Semitic acts are caught on camera but people are refusing to believe them. It's beyond pathetic at this point.

Because Jews are bloodthirsty people who don't live up to your standards. So they're to blame when people try to kill Jews.

Like I said, there probably is the perfect Jew. But nobody's found them yet.

I think it’s terrible that children have been hurt in war. All over the world now, in the past and sadly in the future too. I do object hugely to the idea that there’s a peaceful response option to armed terrorists storming a border to rape and murder. If this happened here, the British army would fight back with intensity - as they should. There wasn’t even an invasion in ww2 and the British army still bombed German towns and cities over and over again. Just googled and they think it was 300,000-600,000 German civilians killed. They have no idea exactly as the cities were totally destroyed. Because destroying the Nazi threat was the priority.

In all this ‘but it’s not kind’ chat, no one has ever explained to me what Israel was meant to do except go back in time and cease to exist. I have never been able to imagine a peace process where one side says ‘we will be done when you and everyone of your religion marches into the sea’ and the other side says ‘no thank you’ and then they just stare at each other for a while.