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Ambulances Set on Fire in Suspected Anti Jewish Attack

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StartingStar · 23/03/2026 07:24

Horrible news that ambulances run by a Jewish charity have been set on fire in Golders Green today.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyj1p49gdpo

AIBU to feel it's got to to with the rise in anti Jewish hate since the allowance of horrible slogans on the weekly marches and in everyday society? What on earth makes people commit such a horrible attack.

I'm 100% with the Jewish community and pray for peace.

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ScarlettOYara · 23/03/2026 17:09

Anactor · 23/03/2026 17:07

Indeed. And if they are aligned with the current Iranian regime, and this was due to the current international situation, you’d expect them to attack a) Iranian monarchists and b) US bases.

But no, they’ve claimed responsibility for arson attacks on Jewish minorities in several countries.

Racists love excuses for their racism…

Yes, they'd rather attack Jewish ambulances, of course

Whatthistime · 23/03/2026 17:13

DontEatTheMushies · 23/03/2026 16:19

Did not say that.
Same can be applied to people who look to be of a certain religion getting hate straight off the bat.

The hate my BIL got for being Chinese during covid was disgusting.
The hate my daughters Turkish friend gets because she is Muslim is disgusting (The Ukrainian refugees at her school are the worst for this) .

My personal belief is when you have Jewish Holocaust survivors denouncing Zionism, top tier Rabbis as well denouncing it, that shows you can have one without the other.

What boggles my mind tbh is Christian Zionism - that seems to be in support of a return to the land IN ORDER to bring about the end of days.

Have to say there is a lot of interesting reading around it all (Also a LOT of contradiction on all sides of course), and I do try to look at all that and what is going on - I don't just blindly follow media.

But at the end of the day....attacks like this are completely senseless.

"Holocaust survivors"? It is remarkable how, as time passes, the number of still living survivors (Jewish ones no less!) remains - or maybe even grows. I am sure you can produce an actual quote and surname for us though.

I know that some people like to use Zygmunt Bauman in this way because, as an idealistic 22‑year‑old communist, he was opposed to the establishment of the Israeli state — but it wasn’t about Israel. It was about nation‑states. He would have said the same about Britain back then, if asked at the moment of the creation of the union.
Later in life, Bauman was expelled from Poland (with pressure from Moscow playing a significant role) in the name of anti‑Zionism (which, as already mentioned in this thread, is a Soviet invention).
After leaving Poland, he built his life in Leeds, worked at the University of Leeds, and became one of the most influential sociologists of our time. And crucially: he never argued that Israel shouldn’t exist.
so, who else? orphans who were sent to Israel after the war because there was nothing for them in Europe?

sellador · 23/03/2026 17:16

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KatiePricesKnickers · 23/03/2026 17:19

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We have a good idea though.

Orangewhiteandblack · 23/03/2026 17:21

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I was talking there about the people who have committed atrocities and we do know who they are - the muslim man who attacked the synagogue. The muslim men who had acquired military grade weaponry to commit mass murder against Jews.

I'm not apologising for pointing out that reality does not match how you wish the world was. I wish the world was like you seem to imagine it is, but it isn't. And we can't improve it by denying reality.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 23/03/2026 17:23

bigboykitty · 23/03/2026 15:31

That is neither very original nor true!

Please, being loud and wrong is not a good look, no matter now many times you repeat yourself, despite being told by several others how wrong you are.

LoyalMember · 23/03/2026 17:28

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Aye, you're right. I wonder who it could be.....?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 23/03/2026 17:33

ScarlettOYara · 23/03/2026 14:27

@KTheGrey - your first paragraph is spot on. Like the teacher upthread, I have come across increasing antisemitism in secondary schools. The worst I have personally been aware of has been from two brothers, who are Syrian refugees. Yr7 and Yr8.
This was not anti Israel or anti Zionist. This was full on Jew hatred, which would have made Goebbels, or Julius Streicher, proud.

I think that is absolutely disgusting, that these refugees were given safety in this country and instead of being grateful start behaving like racist pieces of shit.
It is to this country’s shame that it was tolerated and not stamped down hard on.

esem · 23/03/2026 17:34

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smooththecat · 23/03/2026 17:34

Wellthisisdifficult · 23/03/2026 16:46

Why aren’t you going to read the paper? It contains objective information about anti semitism in the UK. Why do you not want to educate yourself as much as possible about this. How can we possibly hope to combat it by people sticking their heads in the sand about fundamental issues?

Yes there was antisemitism in Britains past (have you ever gone to York). Anti Semitism has been around in Europe for centuries causing exile after exile. You can go back 2,500 years to the Babylonian exile. This has always been a strong argument as to why Israel was so necessary and just.

However, the majority of Europe moved on and the truly repulsive nature of anti semitism became startling apparent during the Holocaust and we vowed never again.

Given the long history of anti semitism you can’t just pick a random date to choose when it should apply from. What the report shows is that there has been an ever increasing trend of anti semitism well before the Oct 7 attacks and that in the UK there is a highly disproportionate amount of semitism in the Muslim community ( predating the Oct 7 attacks and subsequent war). In order to stop this we need to question why? And what can we do to stop these views?

I’m not going to read the paper because I have no doubt that antisemitism is on the rise. I also don’t want to read a paper published by a neocon think tank and I don’t believe that not reading this paper constitutes ‘sticking my head in the ground’.

The rest of your post, I’m not sure who you are arguing with, it’s not in response to anything I’ve written.

EasternStandard · 23/03/2026 17:37

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I doubt your post will stay up but no it’s not that.

Humdingerydoo · 23/03/2026 17:37

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... You're not anti-Semitic, you're just making an incredibly anti-Semitic statement?

ScribblingPixie · 23/03/2026 17:39

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Sorry to break it to you, but if you "can see why" setting fire to ambulances in North London might be judged "fair retaliation" for a Middle Eastern war, your assertion that you're not antisemitic is looking shaky.

ScarlettOYara · 23/03/2026 17:40

ScribblingPixie · 23/03/2026 17:39

Sorry to break it to you, but if you "can see why" setting fire to ambulances in North London might be judged "fair retaliation" for a Middle Eastern war, your assertion that you're not antisemitic is looking shaky.

I can't imagine that burning ambulances would be "fair retaliation" for anything, tbh.

broccolibiscuits · 23/03/2026 17:42

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/03/2026 15:11

Why do you think that it's up to religious bodies to provide ambulance services

I don't, @broccolibiscuits, but I was responding to the assertion that churches wouldn't have the funds should they have wished to do so

So basically you're just trying to derail the thread ?

OK we see you.

Why not start your own thread to bash Christians and leave this one alone?

Solutionssought2026 · 23/03/2026 17:45

There are some absolutely dreadful people in this world that feel very emboldened at the moment, it needs nipping in the bud asap

Orangewhiteandblack · 23/03/2026 17:45

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You are anti-Semitic.

You blame Israel for death's caused by a war Hamas started and think attacking British Jew's property in London is fair retaliation for this. You are both utterly bonkers and anti-Semitic.

Tell you what, you tell me what religion or ethnic heritage you are and where you live, then if anyone of that religion or ethnicity ever harms me in any way, I 'll come round and smash some of your stuff up. Then you tell me how fair that seems to you.

PandoraSocks · 23/03/2026 17:50

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What does burning volunteer ambulances in the UK and putting UK residents' lives at risk have to do with the actions of Israel?

smooththecat · 23/03/2026 17:53

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hazelnutvanillalatte · 23/03/2026 17:53

1dayatatime · 23/03/2026 08:16

I also completely agree with you, although I would add that anti Jewish sentiment has been rebranded as "anti Zionism" to make it a bit more palatable to "left" in the Islamo Leftist movement.

Exactly the same as how Judenhass was rebranded 'antisemitism' to spread through academia as a modern progressive belief.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 23/03/2026 17:56

Orangewhiteandblack · 23/03/2026 16:14

Your attempts of ' both side-ism' to deflect from what is happening is a disgrace.
You are trying to insinuate that Jews are increasingly Islamophobic, so really, that is just the same as the Muslims. But back in the real world, British Jews are not murdering and planning mass atrocities against Muslims. Nor are Jews in USA, Australia or Europe or any of the other Western countries where Muslims have recently been committing atrocities against Jews. This is a very one sided issue of Muslims murdering Jews for being Jewish across the West. Its one sided issues of violent, murderous religion based hate from Muslims living in the West to Jews living in the West. And no amount hand waving deflection from you can change that reality.

And trying to insinuate there is justification for these violent attacks on Jews because of International events is also vile. The only people responsible are those who have created a narrative that international events justify attacks on Western Jews and those who carry out the attacks.

100% bang on.

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Boolabus · 23/03/2026 18:02

Orangewhiteandblack · 23/03/2026 17:02

Oh here we go again.

I use the term Muslims or British Muslims deliberately as I am absolutely sick of people trying to pretend that these people are just random extremists and its a mere coincidence that they are Muslims.

They are Muslims, they are British, they are committing these atrocities because they are Muslim and because their victims are Jews.

No, of course I am not saying all British Muslims are killing Jews, that's absurd. But the subsection of British Muslims who are, are doing it because they are Muslim. This is rather obvious, even without looking at their individual reasoning, by the fact that all of the recent atrocities and murders in the West of Jews, because they are Jews, have been by Muslims. Its not a coincidence. Its not an irrelevant side feature. Its a main driver. There is a problem of muslim anti-Semitism within a subsection of the muslim population in Britain-as the linked report shows this is a bigger problem within muslim communities than the general population (and this was prior to 7/10) and within that subsection there is now a subsection who are violently anti-Semitic. This is religious based hatred.

Oh here we go again

Yes here we go, be specific about who are carrying out the terrorist attacks and don't implicate the whole British Muslim community. It's not that difficult.

broccolibiscuits · 23/03/2026 18:04

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So what is your point ?

Humdingerydoo · 23/03/2026 18:06

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Why are you mentioning dual nationality? What point are you trying to make with that?

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