To be relieved with the House of Lords decision?

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I have just seen on the news that the House of Lords have approved the bid to decriminalise abortion. I am so relieved. I can’t believe in a supposed modern society women are still subject to Victorian laws on their own body.

i wish they had gone one step further and enshrined a woman’s legal right to an abortion to help add protections if Nigel and his gang of loons get in and try to pull what they did in America.

But overall I see this as such a win for women everywhere and a welcome change that will remove fear from lots of lives!

Aibu to feel this way? It’s a scary world as a woman at the moment!

A healthy foetus would be born and be a child if there is not the intervention to kill them.

I simply do not see how anyone can think that abortion isn’t murder.

YABU not to understand that people can have different opinions on the interface between the rights of the unborn and the rights of mothers, and anyone who doesn’t conform to your opinion is a “loon”. It’s not a very nuanced POV…

I agree but an abortion debate on here always go wrong. Name calling. "Forced birther". "Baby killer"

And this was the view of all those in America who agreed with Row vrs Wade being overturned.
Yet now they are finding out the hard way that to deny women the right to abortion also denies women the right to life saving treatment in the event that an abortion is necessary to save the life of the women. There have already been deaths of women since in States where abortion is illegal.
Many do not consider the whole consequences when they want to ban abortion.

What about when the foetus wont be healthy? What about when the woman, who is legally still a child, is pregnant because a male relative has been raping her for years?

Abortion is healthcare for women, not murder.

fantastic that this has passed, as early as possible, as late as necessary.

But why is that unborn child’s life more important than the mother’s? Even if a child is wanted, a mother still has to sacrifice her body, parts of her life, her sleep, her mental health at times. Why should a woman have to do this for a child she doesn’t want?

You’re misunderstanding the law. Overturning RvW simply sent the decision back to each individual state, some of which had a vote, and some of which reverted to pre-existing laws. Overturning RvW didn’t automatically ban abortion in the States.

This is 100% my view too! Abortion for any reason is healthcare and I’m pleased that we live in a society where this is reflected

For all the issues Britain has at the moment, this is one thing to be proud of!

What about unhealthy children? What about unhealthy mothers?

a foetus is by definition a parasite until it passes approximately 20 weeks as it cannot sustain itself without a host.

1000s of women who did not have access to abortion would choose to end their own lives in one way or another, is that your preference?

People are entitled to opinions such as “pineapple doesn’t belong on pizza” but ideas around human rights should not be opinions based in this way.

As a final point, the reason I think Farage and his lot are “loons” are not because they disagree with me, but rather because they consistently flip flop to try and say something that lands in a desperate bid for power. That and the fact that someone who can happily associate with the likes of Putin is categorically insane.

Yes I understand that, but the decision, effectively made abortion illegal in a lot of states as that was their individual laws before it was upheld. Some have introduced new laws to make abortion legal and others haven't because that is effectively what they wanted in the first place.

I agree with you OP. It's a relief.

The outcome for a baby born into that new relationship isn't going to be good either way. Better to not be born to suffer abuse and quite possibly murder when a conscious, aware infant and toddler.

Giving it back to the States. Scotus never makes the law, just interprets what it is and written by the legislature.

An analysis suggested that approximately 32,000 additional children are being born annually in the U.S. as a direct result of the ruling.

32,000 living breathing human beings who now actually exist. 32,000 people who are going to grow up and be alive and have a chance to live

I simply do not see how anyone can think that abortion isn’t murder.

Really @Supperlite ?
You don't understand how distressing an unwanted pregnancy can be? You must live a very comfortable life in a bubble to not get it.

Any reason? “I’ve got a new boyfriend and he doesn’t like kids. I want to abort my 34 week old foetus”?

@EvangelineTheNightStar Oh, don't be so ridiculous.

Who weren't wanted, who have severe abnormalities of development, may not even have a functioning brain beyond the ability to feel continual, excruciating pain, who are going to financially and emotionally destroy the women who had to give birth.

32,000, who may be being born into poverty or abuse because their parents couldn't afford them or are not able to care for them. 32,000 more children who may end up in the criminal justice system because of poor upbringing.

Just because more children are being born doesn't mean they will all end up happy and healthy. Yes things can happen after you have children but if you know you can't cope with them to start with what chance do they really have of a good life.

And those who were born physically healthy?

Help those kids, don't kill. Let's help them.

Because its been shown time again that very few abortions happen later in pregnancy unless there are serious health complications.

said no one ever

The forced birthers pro lifers are out in force tonight.

Do they really not understand that many women just don't want a baby?