To be relieved with the House of Lords decision?

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I have just seen on the news that the House of Lords have approved the bid to decriminalise abortion. I am so relieved. I can’t believe in a supposed modern society women are still subject to Victorian laws on their own body.

i wish they had gone one step further and enshrined a woman’s legal right to an abortion to help add protections if Nigel and his gang of loons get in and try to pull what they did in America.

But overall I see this as such a win for women everywhere and a welcome change that will remove fear from lots of lives!

Aibu to feel this way? It’s a scary world as a woman at the moment!

Im glad OP. I’m pro-abortion.

I think if anyone wants an abortion that is there choice, it use to be with in the 15 week mark.

I do not agree with it happing at 34 weeks.
My sister lost her baby at 34 week in an awfull car crash, at 34 weeks / 8 months is a baby a full baby.
She was a little girl now sleeping for ever.
I dont have kids but stuff like this just makes me sick.

What if someone is up set partner husband whatever walks out after a row or ends it with them, and they are 34 weeks, are they going to use it as a wepon revenge.
You dont want me i dont want your baby.

Its not an abortion at 34 weeks its a funeral, and i dont see any of these babies having a send off.
Its dissgusting disshonest sickening and anyone that has an abortion or suports it at that stage in pregnancy, something is very wrong with you.

If it were legal in the uk, nobody would have an abortion at 34 weeks for reasons other than extreme medical need. Already the number of abortions post 20 weeks is almost statistically irrelevant. The idea that women are choosing to abort that late rather than being forced into it is just simple nonsense.

Well you've just demonstrated you do live in a bubble. Ask anyone who's ever needed a serious amount of help for anything and they'll tell you the truth: there is no help. Crumbs from the state is all, designed to keep people alive without any real consideration to the quality of that life or the lives of those surrounding them. "Let's help them" is a romantic notion nobody actually wants to pay for or volunteer for. People don't even want to listen to their bereaved friends talk about their grief for longer than a few weeks/months, if at all (plenty will ghost, either permanently or until they think the person is over it). Go read one of the many threads from the (often single, since the father has also done a runner from the situation) parent carer of a disabled child about how isolating it is.

If you genuinely feel that strongly about people being helped, you can start by donating 10% of your net salary to a charity that helps improve the lives of troubled/disabled etc people and you can personally volunteer and get involved in giving up some of your own downtime each week to help out a struggling parent or a disabled child or someone who's life is going down the wrong track and needs serious intervention to prevent disaster. No? Not willing to do that? No willing to pay that? Well, guess what? Neither is the rest of society. Which is why, whatever your problem, there's basically no help.

If a child is unwanted it's better off dead before it's even born than at the mercy of the state.

I guess you've never seen an abusive relationship then...

I think women should have the right to abortion

Do you believe in a woman having an abortion when her life is in danger by having the baby?

Every woman should have a choice

Are any of you going to support the child that the woman can't afford to have?

Oh it’ll be plenty!

I can discuss how I feel without being rude and give reasons.
1.men are bad about supporting
2.birth control doesn't always work and fathers push for abortion an abortions has be one of the toughest things a woman does. Have you ever thought about rape or incest can you imagine giving birth to such a child.

There is so much AI online now, it's best to only engage in anything here or elsewhere as a form of entertainment really and not get particularly invested. You never know if you're talking to an AI bot posting controversial comments to drive interactions and bring traffic to the site.

Someone who has zero rights until the time that their body is outside their mother's. That's the law. And I'm glad of it. Women in the western world (I have little knowledge of elsewhere so can't speak of that) have historically been at the "bottom of the pile" in terms of social status. To suggest that a woman's status should come below even that of someone who doesn't actually exist in their own right yet, is abhorrent.

Hahaha. No.

Well yes I have, but I have never seen a 34 week pregnant woman get a new boyfriend.

Your made up scenario is so far fetched as to be hilarious.

Agree. Abortion is legitimate healthcare for any reason.
(Parliament cannot bind its successors tho... The price of freedom is indeed eternal vigilance!)

Oh ok so you’d probably not agree with my abortion at 17 weeks when I realised I was pregnant with my rapists child? Would you continue with a pregnancy conceived in that way? Possibly looking a lot like your rapist?

I was desperate to have a baby and it almost killed me but I couldn’t cope with the idea of having a baby conceived whilst I was raped

So if your daughter was pregnant through rape would anyone really say don't have an abortion? I mean you could say that as long as you wanted no further relationship with your child.
That's obviously an extreme case but any women who doesn't want a baby should be allowed to have an abortion.
Better that than a child being born to a mother who doesn't want it, doesn't love it and therefore doesn't treat them well

OP the decision is madness! I am beyond furious. No woman should be having a termination beyond 28 weeks unless her life is at serious risk !

I defy you to have the same opinion if you had worked in an abortion theatre watching fully formed little hands coming out down a suction tube!
Every one of the people that voted for abortion to term should be forced to watch just one actual suction abortion. Shocking

It's the same procedure as an ERPC for an incomplete miscarriage and not performed at that gestational stage - first trimester up to about 9 weeks is usually through medication, ERPC up to about 13+6. After that point, it's a D&E until the end of the second trimester and for past 24 weeks, an induction.

So, apart from the emotional content of your post, which is inherently true because it's you describing your emotional response to terminations, pretty much every else you said was completely inaccurate.

Not sure why this thread was briefly removed, but there you go.

I’m glad lots of other women feel the same as me and are comforted by this decision

But it is 'forced birth'. If you force someone to continue a pregnancy they do not want, you are forcing them to give birth - with all the consequences attached. Pregnancy and birth carry far greater health risks for a woman than safe early abortion. Anti abortion activists don't like to admit that they are in favour of forcibly putting women's health at risk.

Equally yes - abortion is killing a baby. Sometimes in life, it is necessary to make tough decisions.

I am militantly pro choice.

Abortions where gestation is 24 weeks or over account for a very small number of abortions (0.1% of the total). There were 276 such abortions in 2021.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/abortion-statistics-for-england-and-wales-2021/abortion-statistics-england-and-wales-2021

There were 565 (16.8%) ground E abortions at 22 weeks and over and 274 (8.1%) ground E abortions at 24 weeks and over.

Ground E is - there is substantial risk that if the child were born it would suffer from such physical or mental abnormalities as to be seriously handicapped.

Abortion is healthcare. Abortion post 24 weeks is very rare and from my experience is usually for the most heartbreaking reasons imaginable. How dare anyone judge a woman, or in fact a girl, for having to go through that.

I have. Multiple times. And I am absolutely 100% certain that in each of those cases it was the right thing that happened - for various different but heartbreaking reasons.

Abortion is healthcare.

I agree totally with giving women autonomy over their bodies.. I just hope the HOL take the same with with assisted dying bill, and give women and men the same autonomy. 🤞