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APatternGrammar · 14/03/2026 21:08

Your UK passport enables you to live in Ireland so they‘d have to

Czerwonitz · 14/03/2026 21:14

APatternGrammar · 14/03/2026 21:08

Your UK passport enables you to live in Ireland so they‘d have to

They don't have to give me a job. In my profession a lot of jobs have "must have practised in Ireland for 5/10/20 years" as a requirement.

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Czerwonitz · 14/03/2026 21:14

Why is everything so absolutely shit

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JingsMahBucket · 14/03/2026 21:19

Czerwonitz · 14/03/2026 21:14

Why is everything so absolutely shit

Right wing English people keep stupidly and spitefully voting to hobble themselves, their children and everyone else. It’s frustrating because the other 3 countries keep voting against this horse shit.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/03/2026 21:21

If Reform win the next election the UK is over. But don't worry about everyone, Farage's children have dual nationality. As do Boris Johnson's. David Cameron's family have enough money that it doesn't matter.🤷‍♀️

lilacsanddaffs · 14/03/2026 21:26

at least we know what British culture actually means now.

"Race to the bottom and be proud of it"

Czerwonitz · 14/03/2026 21:57

JingsMahBucket · 14/03/2026 21:19

Right wing English people keep stupidly and spitefully voting to hobble themselves, their children and everyone else. It’s frustrating because the other 3 countries keep voting against this horse shit.

Holyrood looks set to vote in twenty of them

Humans the world over have lost it

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JacknDiane · 14/03/2026 22:17

JingsMahBucket · 14/03/2026 21:19

Right wing English people keep stupidly and spitefully voting to hobble themselves, their children and everyone else. It’s frustrating because the other 3 countries keep voting against this horse shit.

Yep and there's no one to give us independence.

CoolFineDoneWicked · 14/03/2026 22:29

Every few years Farage starts a new "party", and none of them have any more structure or basis in reality than the Dennis the Menace fan club. I wouldn't be surprised if you could join Reform by sending off for a badge.

Last year there was a feature on The News Agents podcast about the first ever Reform club (confusingly, not The Reform Club, but a club for the political party Reform). It was started by a Blackpool publican who just seemed to really like Farage, in the same way that MAGA loves Trump, no matter how often he reneges on his promises.

Anyway, this chap in Blackpool said that he'd voted for Brexit, but realised now that it was a bad idea, and terrible for the UK, as well as preventing him personally from realising his dream to live in Spain one day. And yet he just didn't make the connection between the snake oil Farage was selling then, and the snake oil he's selling now.

Frankly, that was the final nail in the coffin of any lingering deference I might have had towards the idea that Brexit voters aren't stupid. We were told at the time they knew what they were voting for, so they can fucking well own it.

EmeraldRoulette · 14/03/2026 22:57

@CoolFineDoneWicked are you saying the chap in Blackpool wanted to live in Spain but voted for Brexit anyway?

I mean, I presume there's still a way to go and live there even post Brexit

But if he wanted to live in Spain and he wanted Brexit, then he would've researched that?

CoolFineDoneWicked · 14/03/2026 23:04

EmeraldRoulette · 14/03/2026 22:57

@CoolFineDoneWicked are you saying the chap in Blackpool wanted to live in Spain but voted for Brexit anyway?

I mean, I presume there's still a way to go and live there even post Brexit

But if he wanted to live in Spain and he wanted Brexit, then he would've researched that?

He specifically said that he didn't realise Brexit would mean that he couldn't just move to Spain, and that he regretted his vote. But he was a big fan of Farage's latest grift nonetheless.

He was an idiot, and I won't be told these people are sympathetic, marginalised folk anymore. They're selfish, stupid, gullible fools, and Farage has even less respect for them than I do.

EmeraldRoulette · 14/03/2026 23:08

@CoolFineDoneWicked thank you for your reply

I just do not understand how people can vote without doing the tiniest bit of homework! My mind is boggling at that! What did he think he was voting for?!
< headdesk> that must've been an annoying podcast to listen to!

CoolFineDoneWicked · 14/03/2026 23:14

EmeraldRoulette · 14/03/2026 23:08

@CoolFineDoneWicked thank you for your reply

I just do not understand how people can vote without doing the tiniest bit of homework! My mind is boggling at that! What did he think he was voting for?!
< headdesk> that must've been an annoying podcast to listen to!

They knew what they were voting for. That was what we were told again and again when people were calling for a second referendum, or at least for staying in the customs union.

So, fuck 'em. Let them have a Reform government. Although it's obviously the last thing Farage wants - he'd have to follow through for once instead of heckling from the peanut gallery. I doubt it'll ever happen, but they'll cause enough disruption to fuck the country for decades either way. They already are. No-one can govern in these conditions.

CoolFineDoneWicked · 14/03/2026 23:23

This was the podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/pt/podcast/the-news-agents/id1640878689?l=en-GB&i=1000711170191

The report from the Reform club starts at 18 minutes in.

Transcript of the relevant section:

“I'm all for people coming to this country legally. Get a visa. If I want to go to Spain, which I will be doing because that's where I want to retire to, I've got to get a visa. I've got to have 28,000 euros in the bank for myself.

Pre Brexit, you would have just been able to move there.

Well, yeah. And believe it or not, they didn't tell the truth about that. If they explained everything about Brexit, like, oh, you won't be able to travel as many times as you want to Spain, freedom of movement, I would have probably voted not to leave it.

You would?

Yeah.

Well, that was Farage's big idea.

Well, everyone changes their mind.

But you're the owner of Britain's first Reform club. And you actually say, as a result, if you'd known now what you'd known about Brexit, you'd have voted remain?

I probably would have done, yeah. Well, I didn't know. It's too late now, isn't it?”

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/03/2026 23:42

Anyone voting Reform knows what they're getting. Incompetence, treason, misogyny, racism and a whopping rise in taxes.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y68r40yzgo

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/03/2026 23:43

Anyone voting Reform knows what they're getting. Incompetence, treason, misogyny, racism and a whopping rise in taxes.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y68r40yzgo

HopSpringsEternal · 14/03/2026 23:45

As we have been repeatedly told, Reform voters are not stupid.
They want to be worse off.

Goatsarebest · 14/03/2026 23:45

Czerwonitz · 14/03/2026 21:14

They don't have to give me a job. In my profession a lot of jobs have "must have practised in Ireland for 5/10/20 years" as a requirement.

So you say you have got nowwhere to move to because of BREXIT but that you can not get a job in your profession in Ireland because you need Irish experience. If this is true, then how would you get a job in any other EU Country without experience in that Country. If your profession requires knowledge specific to an Irish process, for example law, then you are not getting a job in Spain or Portugal irrespective of BREXIT.
As an English person qualified in England now working for the Irish Government in a specific skill based area that has different legislation in UK and Ireland and a different professional qualification, but never been restricted on promotion or recruitment, I would be seriously interested to know what English to Irish profession is restricted by not having specifically Irish experience.
Please enlighten us.

CoolFineDoneWicked · 14/03/2026 23:48

HopSpringsEternal · 14/03/2026 23:45

As we have been repeatedly told, Reform voters are not stupid.
They want to be worse off.

Better to be white, Christian, poor and eating nothing but turnips than living under the current indignity of Sharia law. Let them finish what Brexit started, and stop the remaining flow of insipid Dutch tomatoes altogether.

HopSpringsEternal · 14/03/2026 23:51

CoolFineDoneWicked · 14/03/2026 23:48

Better to be white, Christian, poor and eating nothing but turnips than living under the current indignity of Sharia law. Let them finish what Brexit started, and stop the remaining flow of insipid Dutch tomatoes altogether.

😂

Viviennemary · 14/03/2026 23:52

CoolFineDoneWicked · 14/03/2026 23:14

They knew what they were voting for. That was what we were told again and again when people were calling for a second referendum, or at least for staying in the customs union.

So, fuck 'em. Let them have a Reform government. Although it's obviously the last thing Farage wants - he'd have to follow through for once instead of heckling from the peanut gallery. I doubt it'll ever happen, but they'll cause enough disruption to fuck the country for decades either way. They already are. No-one can govern in these conditions.

I think Nigel Farage enjoys life far too much to want to be PM. Much more fun just sitting back telling everyone how you'd do it much better. I think he'd emigrate if he was elected

Goatsarebest · 14/03/2026 23:52

Freedom of movement didn't mean you could just get a job in another EU Country. You still had to compete for the job and if you can not compete in Ireland you wouldn't be competitive in any other EU Country where you can add language requirements and processes and systems less aligned with UK systems than Irish systems, to the mix.
So there might be a debate to be had about consequences on freedom of movement, but you can't use a headline that is just wrong and then accuse other people who don't vote how you want them to vote as being misinformed or dumb.

Browningpers · 14/03/2026 23:55

I’ve stopped even being polite about Reform voters now. If you vote Reform, you’re as thick as shit.

I don’t have a problem with someone being right wing - it’s a free country, they can hold whatever views they want - but Reform are seriously incompetent and don’t have single good idea. It’s total pub-bore, ill-thought through shite.

I just do not understand the appeal of this bunch of total grifters.

CoolFineDoneWicked · 14/03/2026 23:58

Viviennemary · 14/03/2026 23:52

I think Nigel Farage enjoys life far too much to want to be PM. Much more fun just sitting back telling everyone how you'd do it much better. I think he'd emigrate if he was elected

I agree. Poisoned chalice, it's the last thing he wants. He's far too good of a grifter to put himself in the position of having to do actual work. He'll probably pull a similar trick as in 2019 and back the Tories at the last minute. Or sack off the whole thing in the next twelve months in favour of the US right wing media circuit.

catinateacup · 14/03/2026 23:58

Goatsarebest · 14/03/2026 23:52

Freedom of movement didn't mean you could just get a job in another EU Country. You still had to compete for the job and if you can not compete in Ireland you wouldn't be competitive in any other EU Country where you can add language requirements and processes and systems less aligned with UK systems than Irish systems, to the mix.
So there might be a debate to be had about consequences on freedom of movement, but you can't use a headline that is just wrong and then accuse other people who don't vote how you want them to vote as being misinformed or dumb.

Daft as a brush

Freedom of movement didn't mean you could just get a job in another EU Country.

That’s exactly what it meant 🤦‍♀️

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