Another school stabbing- Embarrasing

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https://news.sky.com/story/teenage-girl-stabbed-at-school-police-say-13517653

Total embarrassment now.
Is anyone ever going to get a grip on this?

Has anyone become nervous or their children about going to school?

There was one the other day too. Boy was injured.

It’s national news because it doesn’t happen ‘all the time’ - in London or anywhere else.

To be fair, If be pissed off but bloody relieved it was just a compass and not a knife.

Not in school, but outside schools, it does. I have heard of a couple of cases that weren't national news

Violent crime, including knife crime, is falling in London and nationally.

And mine was a question, not a statement. Your rather agressive response was quite defensive.

@cardibach do you work in this field of crime and violence and that’s why you have such certainty that everything is going so well now?

Violent crime is on the decrease as a whole. While this is an awful incident, it is not part of a pattern of increasing violence or an epidemic of violence. Britain is not "getting worse" but coverage of incidents via rolling news coverage, sensationalist reporting, and social media rent-a-gobs make you think it is by shoving negativity in your face 24/7.

I agree with points made about the mental health crisis, lack of funding for family support services, parenting, etc. These are all areas which require attention and link to issues which need to be addressed, particularly those relating to VAWG.

However, an isolated incident is not indicative of the imminent downfall of society.

The BBC focussed on the issue of violence for school age specifically, after the horrendous murder of Harvey Willgoose

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77d06vde4po

No. But I can read and I’m not swayed by right wing ‘the sky is falling’ narratives.

Thanks @EasternStandard thatw something that hadn’t considered, it may be happening less, but the actual incidents are more violent, so not actually that great.

It’s the same question that’s always ‘asked’ though. Like Farage is always ‘only asking’. It’s disingenuous in most cases.

I think his mother / parents were right to say this isn’t good enough for dc. The answer shouldn’t ever be it’s something that happens. Or overall stats are going down don’t mention it.

erm… ok? Why are you mentioning Farage because I asked “Is that less attacks are happening, or less are being reported/prosecuted?”
again you present as very defensive with regards to those who are committing violent crime.

Nobody has said don’t mention it. They’ve said it’s terrible but not indicative of societal collapse.

Because as I said in the post ypu reply to, it’s mostly meant to suggest that is the case, in a technique Farage uses a lot. That was an illustration. If that’s not you, if you genuinely asked a question, then I don’t mean you.

The parents are right to say it shows a failing that needs to be addressed.

I'm 70. A girl in my year stabbed another one with a scalpel over a row about a boyfriend. Victim was badly injured. There were serious fights from junior school onwards - definitely not new!

As PPs have pointed out, it's news because it's unusual.

It all started going downhil in 1979 when Maggie got in with her brand of conservatism and the ‘everyone for himself’ mentality and her now infamous “there’s no such thing as society” bollocks.

Don’t think embarrassing is the right word- it’s horrific!

Yes, of course.
Still not societal collapse or ‘embarrassing’ though.

What goes into someone's head to stab another classmate? There was that awful case in Sheffield.

Children don't really understand pain, injury and death. It's the same reason they take unreasonable risks and make stupid mistakes. It takes quite a bit of teaching to get some values & boundaries into them, after which we hope their maturing brains will piece it together themselves.

I think exposure to violent language and/or actions will make them more likely to turn verbal expressions of violence into action. Lots of kids may say "I'll kill you!" or "You're dead, haha", and lots of games have violent content that isn't meant to be taken seriously. But if no-one's ever explained why it mustn't be taken beyond words in play ...