Another school stabbing- Embarrasing

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https://news.sky.com/story/teenage-girl-stabbed-at-school-police-say-13517653

Total embarrassment now.
Is anyone ever going to get a grip on this?

Has anyone become nervous or their children about going to school?

There was one the other day too. Boy was injured.

Well - you certainly have a point. There was a thread where a woman said she checked her 15 year old daughter's phone and many posters were critical, and said it was "an invasion of privacy"! I said that she was a responsible parent and, naturally, I was attacked. I thought it was extraordinary.
Sp many parents on here are very laissez-faire.

He I believe entered the school with a knife and stabbed both a pupil and teacher. Both are ok- minor injuries.

Sorry it does, am just so frustrated by the handwringing for the attackers from some!

Rest assured, I am not a handwringer. I have no time for people who constantly attack schools and teachers, and the "gentle" parents who don't set boundaries.
You see it on here all the time. "I pick my battles" meaning "I take an easy route".
It's not embarrassing, it's a serious problem.

I grew up in Norfolk- the area where this happened is very safe and middle class. Whatever people like to believe these incidents are not isolated to ‘deprived’ areas. We need to work together in communities to work out what the problems and therefore the solutions are. I mean I could start by saying the reduction on spending on family support and mental health many years ago has had an impact on what we are seeing now

Years ago you wouldn't have dared do anything like that. Such a decline. You'd have been frightened of getting into trouble amongst other things

I bet these secure children's homes, youth custody places, are full of scrotes nowadays.

This is what I came to say. This is Norwich, a nice area, in rural Norfolk. This is not a place of usual inner city crime. It's scary.

Putting on a wash in working hours 😂

The real issue is so many parents raising their kids to think they are the centre of the universe with no regard or respect for other people. Get told off at school? Mummy will complain to the teacher. Don’t like the uniform rules? Mummy will back you to wear whatever you want in the name of self expression. Don’t want to go to school at all? Mummy will blame the school as clearly you have “emotion based school avoidance” and shouldn’t have to do anything you don’t feel completely happy and comfortable with at all times. Break the rules? You probably have some form of “undiagnosed neurodivergence” so you should be exempt from all punishment and consequences. Want to have underage sex with your boyfriend? Mummy will let you do it at home “because otherwise you’ll do it anyway and I’d rather it was under my roof”.

We live in a world of “low demand” “gentle” parenting where children rule the roost and grow up to be selfish and entitled. For boys this feeds into toxic masculinity. Kids put their lives on social media in a constant search for external validation whilst parents shrug their shoulders and say there’s nothing they can do about their awful behaviour “cos ADHD”.

That’s the embarrassment.

“Embarrassing”? Weird choice of words

I think you'll find that my calling out male violence against females is not at all jumping to conclusions with regards to this particular stabbing in Norwich, the only stabbing I discuss in my previous post, which you might want to reread. You rightly say school stabbings are not exclusive to boys and, I'll add, neither is radicalisation.
But on this thread and in this case, I'm discussing this particular stabbing in Norwich alongside the exponential rise in male perpetrated violence against females in this country. Your post almost implies that I'm a bit out of order for doing so. 'It is not helpful to jump to conclusions', you say, which minimises the reality: The Norwich stabbing is an act of male violence against a female. It will be other things too. But it certainly is that and this fact can't be minimised. If you've ever been a female victim of male violence, you will understand how important it is that this fact does not get lost in whataboutery rhetoric.

Parents need to parent

Yep and you just know in a month or so time there will be another one. It's like a cancer growing.

Social media is toxic. Owners only care about the money.
I saw a girl had committed suicide at the weekend due to bullying on Snapchat.
For god's sake ditch the social media and check the phones.

Is this a poor area of Norwich?

And almost every parent has that expectation met. School stabbings are vanishingly rare. All are terrible, of course - I was a teacher and knew a colleague who was stabbed at work, and was locked down because of a pupil armed with a knife as well as knowing numerous pupils caught with knives outside of school over my 35 years, so I’m not minimising attacks. It’s just not a sign of some great societal breakdown. It’s a few individual tragedies.

As a teacher who retired early and knows hundreds of teachers - they don’t leave because of pupils or behaviour on the whole. It’s more about workload and political interference and poor school management.

How many years? I was working in a school that was locked down while police apprehended a pupil with a knife in about 1995.

Nope

That might turn you into a whiney brat. It’s not going to turn you into an attempted murderer

’Nothing to see here, I’ve not been affected’? There seems to be a lot of this dismissive attitude on Mumsnet at the moment, I wonder where it’s coming from?

There always seems to be some news of violence coming out of cities. I was a bit shocked on hearing this as I don’t know of the area and it’s not where you’d expect. Our cities are getting worse, and violence seems to be becoming more widespread even into previously ‘nice’ areas, or perhaps especially into ‘nice’ areas. Even official statistics recognise that knife crime is rising and violence against women and girls is growing out of control. You could argue that the cities are only small areas of the country and the vast majority of land lies outside them I suppose, but most people also know that more people live in the cities and associated areas. Of course they do tend to be poorer.

When I was at school in the 1960s a boy in another school was stabbed with a steel comb.

It was in Wokingham, Berkshire BTW not a big city.

’Nothing to see here, I’ve not been affected’? There seems to be a lot of this dismissive attitude on Mumsnet at the moment, I wonder where it’s coming from?

agree, but it’s also “yeah but it’s just your child who’s been attacked… why are you so stressed?! Lots of children won’t have been attacked today!!”

often wonder if these posters have the ‘spirited/high energy’ perpetrators…

Have Tommy & co found a way to blame Sadiq Khan yet?

True.

I think it is horrifying. Whatever he stabbed her with, he obviously wasn’t trained like a surgeon to ensure the wound could not cause serious harm. And the intention of pushing a blade into someone’s body is horrific, even in the hormone-addled mind of a teenager.