Another school stabbing- Embarrasing

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https://news.sky.com/story/teenage-girl-stabbed-at-school-police-say-13517653

Total embarrassment now.
Is anyone ever going to get a grip on this?

Has anyone become nervous or their children about going to school?

There was one the other day too. Boy was injured.

Obviously it's not acceptable to use violence and lad should be prosecuted, but "treated for minor injuries" doesn't fall into "horrifying."

We don't know what was used , whether it was knife crime or a pair of compasses from a maths set. Let's not jump to extremes.

I hope the poor girl is ok and the school give her support. Toxic masculinity has a lot to answer for.

Yep. As soon as you see "girl stabbed by boy" it's like ah, there we go. It's Adolescence. How dare girls hurt boys' feelings.

It wasn’t ’just a quick title’ or unfamiliarity with the language. It was carefully chosen to push the constant right wing (mainly - OP May have other reasons) narrative thatBritain is failing, and broken, and dangerous, when in fact violent crime (including knife crime) is falling. I always wonder what people get from making out the country is so terrible.

Children should be safe at school. Even if some don’t like the wording of a thread and find that more problematic a stabbing shouldn’t just be accepted.

Not least for the victims and families.

This was a boy who attacked and stabbed a girl. What sets this knife crime apart from gang related knife crime is that it's a symptom of a bigger and growing problem: Male violence against females, which is on the rise in the UK while knife crimes (overall) fall. So to talk about knife crime falling, while true, is ignoring the elephant in the room: This is a gender-based crime and a searing reminder of the exponential rise of male violence against females in the UK.

The loss of community and community-driven activities and institutions for young teenagers means that young people have the potential to drown inside indoctrination-filled echo chambers that social media can confine them to.
If we're not reaching outside to external sources for communication and connection (which is what we, as humans, are designed to do), we're living and learning how to be social creatures internally, digitally, through the phone. We are going against our organic, evolutionary nature. With both parents working full-time and trying to just keep a roof over a family's head, it's so easy for families to stop talking and even reaching out to one another for perspective, debate, discussion, shared ideas, disagreements... just talking and communicating.
So many young males, in particular, learn to be men from these idiots spouting bullshit online. And these are the guys locking our youth inside their echo chambers. I am raising two sons and a daughter alone, with no father at all on the scene. I am hyper-aware that I have to double down on my parenting if I want my sons to be men of integrity and empathy. I worry a lot about how well I am doing. It's a bloody minefield raising boys to men in this day and age. But parents cannot be daunted by that reality.

Not always (I am not talking about this specific case). I've known some brilliant parents whose children get caught up in gangs. Some parents have one child who gets all A grades, a brilliant job and family, and another who is in prison.
Many of the children and young people who have been stabbed had loving, hardworking families.

Obviously they should. Would you like to point to anything I said which indicated otherwise?
And they are, overwhelmingly, safe. No, that doesn’t help this child or their family (though thankfully it doesn’t seem to have caused serious injury) but you could as well say ‘everyone deserves to be safe from train crashes’. We are, generally. But some trains still crash. Same for cars and planes.

What did people think the eventually outcome would be when authority was taken away from parents, teachers, the police ans the courts? This has been a slow burn over the past 40 years and this is where we are now. Feral youths causing mayhem
Impotent parents.
Kids and teachers being stabbed at school
Who the hell didnt see this coming?

Yes I did, sorry my spelling is rubbish.

But oddly enough schools across the country are allowing kids to handle things like this and I've yet to hear of an incident from an item removed from schools.

How is it dishonest? None of my management, including all the way up to the big boss, would gaf if I told them I was just putting a wash on - they all do it too - they're all upfront in that it's one of the many benefits of WFH!

I don't know what 'putting a wash on' consists of to you but it takes me less than 30 seconds to carry a laundry bin downstairs, open the machine and put the laundry in. I do it when making a cup of tea - which I'm also fully allowed to do, and which I would be doing/do when I'm in the office as well. The only difference is that while I'm standing waiting for the kettle to boil in the office I'm probably chatting to a colleague or staring out the window. Nobody is fully productive 8hours a day when working, regardless of where they work.

I'm sure some people do take the piss when WFH but that particular example is an utterly bizarre one to use as evidence for lawlessness or lack of responsibility in society - comparing that as analogous or somehow leading to school stabbings is insane, not to mention belittling to the victims of actual crimes.

i wonder what people get out of wondering why the country is tickity-boo!
minismising children being attacked either fist fight or stabbed… “ah well it’s not that bad”.
berating parents for being upset their child has been attacked… “how UNKIND!! think how that poor child must be feeling, why haven’t you asked what you can do!”

This ⬆️. It's a particular style isn't it?
Crime is "shameful" and "embarrassing" because of how it reflects on the country. Not individual broken lives.

"Is anyone ever going to get a grip on this?"

Come on then - how would you suggest that society as a whole deals with this issue?

Yes, it is concerning and embarrassing as well. Because it is not what you expect of a civilised society.

There is a very big generalisation there.

Not all teenagers ( and younger) have been brought up with the expectation that they can do as they please without repercussion.

Admittedly there are some that are, but it may be that their parents were also brought up to believe the same, so could be more than one generation, and include those that are now adults.

There are also lots of teenagers that are respectful and responsible. ( they just don't make national headlines in the same way).

So more worried about the poor criminals with their “broken lives” than those they attack, rob and assault?

I was actually referring to the broken lives of the victims.
Interesting interpretation

The school is local to me. It is highly regarded and it is not the type of school or area where you would expect this to happen. It does worry me as this is close to home. However, I do think that we need to wait and understand what happened and why. I believe statistically that violent crime is falling, but one case of this type is too many.

No. I don’t think stabbings are embarrassing:

I think they are horrific.

"This was a boy who attacked and stabbed a girl. What sets this knife crime apart from gang related knife crime"

It may turn out that this boy was radicalised online but schools stabbings are not exclusive to boys and it is not helpful to jump to conclusions.

The school stabbings In South Wales was a girl stabbing a pupil and 2 teachers....

No I don’t think a train crash means stabbing in schools are something people see that just happens.

Every parent should expect their dc goes to school and not stabbed, it’s a fairly low bar.

Schools chaotic as parents don't teach manners, respect or tolerance. Parents give teachers abuse when they are talked to about their children and are threatening.
Lack of money, but no one wants to pay more tax but want huge number of staff and resources

This teacher is been verbally and physically abused by pupils and parents but still us teachers get blamed. I spent a huge amount of my own money on resources as every teacher does..... without us paying for stuff your kids we have less.

Is it? You could have just said “no, I’m concerned about the victims”

That was implied. I said "individual broken lives".
I didn't say the perpetrators.
I have seen too many lives blighted.
Broken, if you will.
I hope that clears up the unfortunate misunderstanding. 🙏

It would serve some parents bloody right if schools closed due to staff not wanting to deal with this crap anymore.

They wouldn't know what to do. They'd be moaning then.

Some parents do not know their kids very well, if they are going off to school with a knife. How many talk to them about knife crime. Same with phones and social media, how many know what's going on.