To buy my first house two minutes down the street from traveller housing initiative?

[MelMar1]

Please give me advice.
I’m sale agreed on a new build house in Dublin . I found out that there is a new traveller housing initiative going in right across the road from me. Please don’t say I’m being snobby I’m really not. I’ve just heard stories of anti social behaviour etc. I know there’s always some lovely people but I’m nervous.

Do I give the house up because of this? It’s a substantial amount of houses for the traveller scheme all together - six very large detached four bedroom homes. It is two minutes walk from me. I drove up to the development to see and the traveller housing initiative is not in front of me directly as I thought. It is not in front of or behind me but about 2 minutes walk down the road. I can only see gable end of one of the houses from mine. Not directly facing.
I need to sign contacts in 2 days and I am so torn.
Otherwise it’s perfect house for me. With this information are you saying yes or no?

Good grief no, get as much distance as possible.

Absolutely do not buy it. This will drastically decrease the value of the house compared to what you're paying for it.

Do you really believe that the last buyers loan fell through?

They had the same chat with themselves more like. Don’t do it!

Absolutely NO get out while you still can you’ll never settle you’ll always be on edge

Run, Forrest, run.

Yes. I am going to say South Dublin area for privacy. I was raised in County Wicklow so I have a good understanding of the Irish traveller community. I understand and accept that it's inappropriate to tar everyone with the same brush. What would concern me is you finding yourself stuck in an untenable situation and unable to sell your house. I can just imagine the guards response if you ever had a reason to call them. 'Why did you buy in this area, woman?'

Another do not buy vote from me.

Good chance it will be fine. But I wouldn't but a house anywhere there was a risk for reselling it. If it was a moderate flood risk, near a field that could be built in, etc.

This is one of those where it might never effect you but not worth the risk for reselling

Think of the resale value and marketing later.

What a fascinating thread. I’m a gypsy and was recently posting on ama thread a couple of days ago and had tonnes of posters saying “why don’t you’s just move into a house instead of travelling around” and now to see this thread here begging the op not to buy a house because of travellers near by is quite contradictory. Be honest, you would have us all burned by the stake wouldn’t you? Wiped of the face of the earth. This is the reason why so many travellers and gypsy don’t want to settle in houses. Because we are not wanted end of. So we will continue to pull up in your car parks and playing fields and have yous clean up after us. After all it’s what you all deserve.

I think everyone is being too dramatic. OP has said that the kind of house she's buying is in short supply. She'd be able to sell it when the time comes.

Chances are the neighbours would be fine. I lived near a half-way house for homeless and people said similar things but it wasn't actually a real problem. At the end of the day everyone has got to live somewhere, and anywhere you live you're rolling the dice on there being a bad neighbour.

Enjoy moaning about them then. Or are you ok with that. It sounds like hell to me.

its because of the trouble people have encountered from travellers. Round here they break into outbuildings and steal heating oil. The police are scared of them too

I’m sympathetic to @babylamb4 ‘s position. And also to yours @MelMar1

The chances are that you will move in and things will be fine, but the house will be devalued or harder to sell due to the assumptions / prejudice of other buyers. So unless you can get it for a significant discount, I would pull out.

Pull out now, the Estate Agents can tell the next people your mortgage fell though.

The end of your post is pretty fascinating too. If you want to berate people for their ignorance why end with threats that pretty much confirm their prejudices are well founded?

OP — regardless of the truth of the matter here (draw your own conclusions) the fact remains a lot of people share this view. So it will be challenging to sell in any event.

Lived in Ireland . I wouldn't advise my daughter to buy this . Just not worth the risk . My town had halting sites and also houses provided. They were on the edge of the town though. It is a sad fact that the traveller community ways and values are not always compatible with estate living . Especially if they had not previously been settled . Is this near Dunsink ? And unless they are carefully vetted there may be the danger of feud . As it will be Council houses ideally any antisocial behavior would be dealt with but because of the initiative and protection under discrimination law they would be unlikely to take action .

I lived and worked in an area of England where travellers would visit in summer with their shows and crime would rocket when they were in town. Then some travellers bought some land on the outskirts and tried to get planning to stay there permanently - it was horrendous!! From the day they moved in the crime rate increased and the site was an absolute tip. The council visited on more than one occasion and told them they had to sort themselves out or they'd have no chance of being given permission but they ignored it and were eventually evicted. It cost the council thousands to make the site safe again.

I then moved to an area of Wales where there were many travellers in council run mobile home type sites, privately owned mobile home sites and living in council houses. No one wanted to live near any of them because of the crime levels, the mess, the dogs running about the place, horses tethered to the green patch on the estate and caravans/vans dumped in parking spots - all of the stereotypical things you hear about where traveller sites are located. For many years I worked with a lovely girl who was from a travelling background (and was very close to her) and she herself said she wouldn't live near a traveller settlement because of the issues they bring with them.

I'd cut your losses and run while you can OP, you might have to pay a little more at the beginning but potentially could stand to make more from your first home. Good luck

I wouldn’t purely from the standpoint that your purchase price did not rake into account the traveller site. Even if there is no trouble/anti social behaviour it will have a knock on effect on the value

I live in the UK and sadly all the experiences I have had with travelers have been negative.Taking over cricket grounds, local playing fields ,local shops being burgled,and just filth ,litter and human shit left on the ground involving a deep clean by the environmental health department. Am sure not all travellers involved but it is a common occurrence!!

No don’t u it u will
Absolutely regret it

Honestly, you'd be mad to proceed. Regardless of what the travellers are like, their mere proximity will put people off. (No, I'm not racist, just a realist. And frankly any housing initiative for anybody at all, possibly excepting old people, would put me off. ) Your resale value will be massively affected if you can even sell it. There is always another house but not if you sink your money into this disastrous "investment".

Gazunder

If you don’t plan to sell it in the next 10 years or so, this is your opportunity to reduce your offer by 15% see how that goes