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If you’re mourning the loss of Ayatollah Ali Khameni in the U.K., why do you want to live in the U.K.?

299 replies

dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 06:46

This is just a genuine question, and maybe a little ignorant on my part. But if you essentially worship someone who hates the West and everything the West stands for so much, why do you choose to live in the U.K.? Surely you must hate living here and would prefer to live in countries which follow similar repressive approaches as the IR, so why wouldn’t you move there?

And why has the U.K. allowed the Iranian’s to have an Embassy in London for so long, if they are so anti the West and are such a big security threat to our freedom.

This isn’t a goading post and has nothing to do with moderate Islam, I just don’t understand if you have such extreme views, why you choose to stay in a country that goes against everything you believe in?

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ArrghNoJustNo · 05/03/2026 12:41

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:35

What does grieving terrible people have to do with where people choose to live?

But you're sidestepping what people are commenting on from your post. That was your first question, wasn't it?

Are you accepting that that was a false equivalence? Perhaps after that, we can carry on with the rest of your post (Besides the second question has been answered on the thread many times but your first question is truly the first of its kind).

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:42

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:40

Which terrorism in Britain did he sponsor?

UK government officials have stated that Iran has sponsored at least 20 terrorist plots aimed at the UK since January 2022. These activities include threats directed at dissidents and Jewish communities.

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:43

ArrghNoJustNo · 05/03/2026 12:41

But you're sidestepping what people are commenting on from your post. That was your first question, wasn't it?

Are you accepting that that was a false equivalence? Perhaps after that, we can carry on with the rest of your post (Besides the second question has been answered on the thread many times but your first question is truly the first of its kind).

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I am not sidestepping anything. The question in my post was “why should grieving terrible people dictate where somebody lives”.

That question is being sidestepped by all except one who has at least attempted to answer it.

EasternStandard · 05/03/2026 12:44

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:42

UK government officials have stated that Iran has sponsored at least 20 terrorist plots aimed at the UK since January 2022. These activities include threats directed at dissidents and Jewish communities.

@JHoundare you unaware of this and the general brutality of the IRGC?

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:46

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:43

I am not sidestepping anything. The question in my post was “why should grieving terrible people dictate where somebody lives”.

That question is being sidestepped by all except one who has at least attempted to answer it.

You ARE side stepping it!! It was a stupid ridiculous and quite frankly appalling comparison. It’s like comparing Hitler to Boris Johnson

Tauranga · 05/03/2026 12:46

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:39

The UK and US are clearly not allies.

And by that token Thatcher grieving the death of Pinochet, an “evil murderous dictator” meant she should not have lived in the UK?

I think there are millions of reasons to critique anybody who cares about the death of Khameini but I don’t see any reason why that mean would mean they “should not live in the UK.”

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The USA is the UKs greatest ally.

ArrghNoJustNo · 05/03/2026 12:46

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:43

I am not sidestepping anything. The question in my post was “why should grieving terrible people dictate where somebody lives”.

That question is being sidestepped by all except one who has at least attempted to answer it.

JHound · Today 11:47

Do you ask the same question of those in the UK who mourned the loss of Charlie Kirk?

I can think they are stupid in who the grieve but why does that impact where they chose to live?

Are we rewriting provable history? You are deflecting from your first question. You asked it, own it.

ArrghNoJustNo · 05/03/2026 12:50

ArrghNoJustNo · 05/03/2026 12:46

JHound · Today 11:47

Do you ask the same question of those in the UK who mourned the loss of Charlie Kirk?

I can think they are stupid in who the grieve but why does that impact where they chose to live?

Are we rewriting provable history? You are deflecting from your first question. You asked it, own it.

@JHound People are trying to answer your first question but to answer it, they must address the fundamentally flawed premise you used. Instead of owning up to it, you want to pretend you didn't ask it. You'd rather force people to ignore it and only answer your second question. Doesn't work like that.

cupfinalchaos · 05/03/2026 12:53

My Iranian friend here is delirious he’s gone and just too afraid to believe there might be a chance of freedom for her people.

But I 100% agree with you.. if there are any mourning him.. what the hell are they doing here.

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:56

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:42

UK government officials have stated that Iran has sponsored at least 20 terrorist plots aimed at the UK since January 2022. These activities include threats directed at dissidents and Jewish communities.

Thanks for engaging with engaging with my question:

You did not provide a link so here it is:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/01/uk-defence-secretary-john-healey-few-will-mourn-ali-khamenei-iran-us-israel

(Although previous parliamentarian sources don’t paint a straightforward picture.)

I think then that the question is valid to ask of mourners what is there to mourn and what they celebrate about Khameini ?

I wonder if they actively believe that he sponsored attempted terror attempts in the UK and are supportive of that and if so it’s fair to ask why they are not trying to find a way to move away from the UK.

Part of me suspects it’s lazy anti-Americanism / anti-Israeli sentiment. If he was exactly the same person but pro-American the “mourners” would likely not exist (he wouldn’t dead either but that’s a separate point….)

Few will mourn leader of ‘evil’ regime Ali Khamenei, says UK defence secretary

John Healey warns of ‘very real and rising threat’ from Tehran as US and Israeli military action divides political opinion

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/01/uk-defence-secretary-john-healey-few-will-mourn-ali-khamenei-iran-us-israel

ginasevern · 05/03/2026 12:56

LifeAdminAlways · 05/03/2026 11:36

Unbelievable that they are allowed to hold vigils!.

Don’t you believe in free speech etc? Even if it’s something you disagree with?

It's not about free speech and the OP's question is totally valid. If some Iranians are mourning the Ayatollah's death (and therefore presumably the potential end of that regime) then why did they leave it behind? The current regime isn't just a government. It is the manifestation of a religious doctrine, an ideology and a complete way of life. If you believe in it then surely you'd be delighted to live under it and not in a foreign land whose values couldn't be further removed.

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:57

Tauranga · 05/03/2026 12:46

The USA is the UKs greatest ally.

Sure.

Findingmypurposeinlife · 05/03/2026 13:05

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:42

UK government officials have stated that Iran has sponsored at least 20 terrorist plots aimed at the UK since January 2022. These activities include threats directed at dissidents and Jewish communities.

Is that the same UK government that just invited Al Qaeda leaders of Syria to reopen the embassy in November 2025 😄

JHound · 05/03/2026 13:17

It’s interesting how an image from the vigil in Manchester read: “The Western world sold you nothing but lies on this pious man of God”.

It seems the mourning may be prompted by tin foil hatism.

EasternStandard · 05/03/2026 13:19

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:57

Sure.

If you needed to which military would you rely on? Who are you sure will step in?

Teddleshon1 · 05/03/2026 13:27

@JHound If not the US, which country do you think is the UK’s greatest ally?

ExtraOnions · 05/03/2026 13:48

if I was Iranian I would not yet be celebrating. Who will replace him? Will it be “better”? How is this war going to leave the infrastructure? Who’s going to pay to get the place up and running? What will the USA demand in return for “liberation”?

The place may end up in a worse state than it is now.

This is not the first time “the west” has gone into these places, and in the long term achieved nothing.

OneBlueFinch · 05/03/2026 13:51

Pinkissmart · 05/03/2026 06:59

‘This isn’t a goading post’

Yes, it is

No, it isn’t.

EasternStandard · 05/03/2026 13:58

ExtraOnions · 05/03/2026 13:48

if I was Iranian I would not yet be celebrating. Who will replace him? Will it be “better”? How is this war going to leave the infrastructure? Who’s going to pay to get the place up and running? What will the USA demand in return for “liberation”?

The place may end up in a worse state than it is now.

This is not the first time “the west” has gone into these places, and in the long term achieved nothing.

Given you’ve not experienced decades of brutal oppression it’s a bit much to suggest how they should be feeling.

thecatsgotyourtongue · 05/03/2026 14:05

EasternStandard · 05/03/2026 13:19

If you needed to which military would you rely on? Who are you sure will step in?

Certainly not the USA, DJT is no longer interested in Allies.

We are seeing the biggest threat to European and hence our own security since WW2 and what has the USA done?

Stopped supplying weapons, support Putin, blame the Ukrainians for starting the war, introduced tariffs on our exports, threatened to invade a NATO country.

& have now started a war which has now and will continue to fuck up our economy.

EasternStandard · 05/03/2026 14:07

thecatsgotyourtongue · 05/03/2026 14:05

Certainly not the USA, DJT is no longer interested in Allies.

We are seeing the biggest threat to European and hence our own security since WW2 and what has the USA done?

Stopped supplying weapons, support Putin, blame the Ukrainians for starting the war, introduced tariffs on our exports, threatened to invade a NATO country.

& have now started a war which has now and will continue to fuck up our economy.

Ok so who are you relying on instead?

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 14:08

Findingmypurposeinlife · 05/03/2026 13:05

Is that the same UK government that just invited Al Qaeda leaders of Syria to reopen the embassy in November 2025 😄

Hey I’m no fan of the current UK government, believe me.

dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 14:10

@pikkumyy77if that’s aimed at me you couldn’t be further from the truth! Because I dare to ask a question about why those with extreme Islamist views want to live in the U.K.?

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thecatsgotyourtongue · 05/03/2026 14:12

EasternStandard · 05/03/2026 14:07

Ok so who are you relying on instead?

Our other NATO allies.

Do you believe if Russia went into the Baltics or Poland, the USA would provide troops on the ground to thwart him or do you think he would blame Europe/EU/NATO ?

Based on previous history, what do you think would happen?

dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 14:13

@JHoundwhy would people choose to grieve someone who sentences children and women to death because they have been raped? Why would someone grieve someone who gauges women’s eyes out and allows them no rights or freedoms. Your comparison to Charlie Kirk is the most laughable comment yet on this thread!

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