If you’re mourning the loss of Ayatollah Ali Khameni in the U.K., why do you want to live in the U.K.?

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This is just a genuine question, and maybe a little ignorant on my part. But if you essentially worship someone who hates the West and everything the West stands for so much, why do you choose to live in the U.K.? Surely you must hate living here and would prefer to live in countries which follow similar repressive approaches as the IR, so why wouldn’t you move there?

And why has the U.K. allowed the Iranian’s to have an Embassy in London for so long, if they are so anti the West and are such a big security threat to our freedom.

This isn’t a goading post and has nothing to do with moderate Islam, I just don’t understand if you have such extreme views, why you choose to stay in a country that goes against everything you believe in?

@MrThorpeHazell watch the news!

I don't know anyone mourning the death of this piece of sh*t. Thankfully

Do you know any of these people?

All the Iranians I know in the UK are here to escape the regime.

To clarify I saw people mourning his death on the news, with shrines in big cities across the U.K. I don’t think the majority of Iranians are morning his death. I also don’t think many of these people are even from Iran.

Who is mourning his death?

Plenty of people mourned Stalins death, and when Mao died the Queen sent a message of sympathy - both of these killed millions.

If people want to mourn him let them, I not into deporting people because thier views differ to mine (in a non-violent way)

I do think it’s odd that people who, have never even mentioned Iran, and now suddenly experts, and highly concerned about its citizens (the ones they were furious about wanting Refuge & Asylum)

No DONT get back in your box. The days of silencing anyone who dares to question extremism are long gone thank god.

@ExtraOnionsthanks for the historical input and I did not know that about the Queen! Appreciate your response!

I’m in Australia OP and at our senior leadership meeting we were told there are several people in our organisation who are in “full mourning” for the ayatollah and to be respectful. I think it’s appalling and anyone mourning him
or that regime should take themselves off to a Islamic republic of their choice and not be in a country with western values to be honest. Ditto for anyone holding vigils in the UK.

@Lifesdthis is my thinking. I am so appalled by the human rights atrocities the IR carries out, especially on women and young girls! Sentenced to death because you were raped? I guess people who mourn his death will have been brainwashed into the extremism support like this.

I know someone who posted a very sad post about his death on Facebook!
He is very into the environment, which is how I know him.
I was part of a litter pick in village that he helps organise.

Very much so

Definitely a goady thread, loads of them around at the moment.

My understanding is that the majority of these are to raise awareness of the war and are against that. This is very different from mourning the cunt.

May I draw your attention to the two protests taking place in Manchester yesterday. One composed of mourners for the Ayatollah, the other opposing that. Clearly some people are in favour of the current regime if they are prepared to attend a mourning meeting. I'll leave it at that. And, of course, Jeremy Corbyn turned up at one such at the weekend. Guess which side he was on?

I am not Iranian. Nor am I Muslim.

but re the embassy - it is the general custom of all countries to maintain embassies in as many states as they can manage for a number of reasons - to process travel visas for the country where necessary, to help look after their citizens in that country and to enable talking to continue. Jaw jaw is better than war war.

in terms of where you live - most people do not get a choice over where they are born and the passports that they hold as a child. The U.K. doesn’t let people come here just because they are Christian (ask the people of Nigeria!) anymore than a British Muslim born here can just move to Iran just because they feel like it.

the Iranians I know in Britain mostly fled the Islamic revolution in the 1970s and are very happy the ayatollah is dead.

No it isn't. People can talk about a sensitive topic without it being 'goady'.

Although im not sure what OP is talking about yet but I think this will make for an interesting thread to read if people don't try to derail with posts like this.

Which news outlets are you seeing all these reports on? Can you share some links, please?

That's not the OP's question then, is it? OP is specifically asking about those who are mourning, not those who aren't.

You did make it clear but that makes some people feel uncomfortable so they pretend not to understand. This is why discourse is failing

i agree with you. No-one of sane mind should be mourning that piece of shit. Anyone who does has been brainwashed/radicalised. Unfortunately there are home-grown terrorists as well as immigrants/refugees.
Broadly I agree with you. We need to stamp out extremism.
FWIW I live in an area where a lot of Iranians reside and there were celebrations re the Ayatollah’s death.

I think the OP is referring to the Al Quds march and similar

@Nosejobnellythanks for the measured response. And sorry if my original post came across anti Iranian, as that was not my intention. I really
hope and pray that the Iranians get their freedom and peace and I do think a lot of the mourning and pro IR rhetoric is being pushed by the far left!

So the question OP is asking is why are some people in this country (who may or may not have any links to Iran/Iranians at all) openly mourning someone who massacred his own people?

Would they really prefer to live under that regime?

It is the hypocrisy of any individual that sits comfortably in a safe country where they are afforded freedom of religion, freedom of speech cheering on a regime where neither are allowed.