If you’re mourning the loss of Ayatollah Ali Khameni in the U.K., why do you want to live in the U.K.?

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This is just a genuine question, and maybe a little ignorant on my part. But if you essentially worship someone who hates the West and everything the West stands for so much, why do you choose to live in the U.K.? Surely you must hate living here and would prefer to live in countries which follow similar repressive approaches as the IR, so why wouldn’t you move there?

And why has the U.K. allowed the Iranian’s to have an Embassy in London for so long, if they are so anti the West and are such a big security threat to our freedom.

This isn’t a goading post and has nothing to do with moderate Islam, I just don’t understand if you have such extreme views, why you choose to stay in a country that goes against everything you believe in?

This.

No it's not. Give your head a wobble.

@Findingmypurposeinlifethey can be, if you like? However, IR murdered over 20k of its OWN people over the past two months! Yet people mourn the death of its leader here in the UK…

I follow a few far left wing accounts on twitter and have done for many years (I follow people across the political spectrum deliberately to get a range of different views about events).

I can honestly say there are a few who have completely lost their minds this week in terms of selective thinking and cherry picking points.

There are absolutely some white western lefties mourning him.

Whilst I get there's lots of reasons to be against war and that's a far enough position to take, there's a few who have just taken their anti-western views to the next level of cognitive dissonance and are ignorant on a whole other plain of existence.

I am not particularly ok with any of it and I'm concerned for Iranian citizens but I was concerned about what was happening to Iranian citizens by the hands of this guy too which seems to have escaped the attention of some of these people.

Sometimes social media is like looking into a parallel dimension where there's a whole other world of insanity and out of touchness with the real world.

It's as bad as the people who think Iran should be levelled and everyone there wiped out.

But yep utterly bonkers, but yep they do exist. And nope most of them are white and have no connection whatsoever with Iran.

You do realise most African Christian households in the UK also believe that men are the head, yes? And that they have the exact same values as US Christians? I speak from loved experience here.

Tell us, in what way is private family structure comparable to Islamic extremism? This is a delusion take.

One of the good things about the internet is that regular people (and here, oftentimes it’s women) are free to voice their opinions and others are free to contradict, correct and disagree.
I disagree with you that every debate should be intellectual. Are we only going to confine free speech to people with politics degrees?
if you disagree with OP points then say so and provide your own reasons. It’s not for you to say the debate shouldn’t take place at all.

Most want Iran to thrive without the regime but I’m not on there so maybe there some outliers with extreme views on Iran as a whole.

I do agree most mourning and not rejoicing are not Iranian. This thread is a comment on those people not Iranians, maybe that’s why some want it closed down.

ITV news in the NorthWest reporting vigil held in Manchester commemorating the Supreme Leader of Iran. Up to 100 people gathered on Sidney Street off Oxford Road….A printed message was also displayed on the table which read “we believe, trust, admire the revolution”.

Trump could find a cure for cancer and the lefties would still despise him and find a way to criticize him

Yes, because the grotesque, multi-convicted sex-offending piece of excrement would immediately attempt to make as much money as he possibly could from the cure, and likely play his usual racist, infantile games over precisely who he'd make it available to.

"TDS" is not only hilariously banal, it is entirely a figment of the raving Trumpist morons' imagination. It's perfectly normal for normal, decent people to be utterly repulsed by the sorry excuse for a human Trump is.

I can tell you who a few of these people are, they are the idiots at my local Anglican Cathedral.

They put up a Ukrainian flag a few years ago, then a Palestinian flag, and they hurried to put up an Iranian flag when things started happening there a week ago.

Having spoken to the dean, it's not some sophisticated symbol, they see these things as similar, in fact they very much identify what is going on in Iran as the same as the Palestinians, which is to say the evil Americans and Israelis are trying to oppress the poor brown people.

We don't locally have any actual middle eastern people I have seen taking this approach. The Iranians are hopeful, and our Pakistani population is mostly Christians and not likely to support that regime.

I suspect there are student groups at the university taking the same line as the cathedral. Morons.

Yes, I used to think that we'd be a bit disgruntled with our government in the UK if hundreds of people died building a stadium for a football tournament (Qatar), a few hundred were done away with and secretly buried for opposing the government (Egypt), or tens of thousands were maimed/murdered for protesting in the street.
But I have become aware that a few thousand young girls can be raped and abused and authorities seem keen to brush over it, and that our rivers are literally full of shite and making people sick, or dead, so I'm wondering what we do stand for these days.

As for the op, round here there is graffiti saying 'love where you live or live where you love', it's a reflection of current tensions. I would add, if this issue can create tension between me and my 'sister' of over 30 years because of our different backgrounds, I can see how it would cause problems between people who are complete strangers.

If we can't talk about it we really are doomed.

I haven’t come across anyone mourning him. Not sure anyone beyond a negligibly small number will be. Iranians themselves have been trying to overthrow him!

I do know people concerned about friends and family in Iran or neighbouring countries.

I do know people who question the legality of Trump and Netanyahu’s actions (and their govts’ actions).

I would question their timing as well - get in there and kill him just when the Iranians look like rising up so as to control who gets into power next/ take the agency away from the Iranian people. I hope I’m wrong but experience suggests this.

Yes! I understand troll threads being reported/deleted (much to my annoyance sometimes because some of them are a right good laugh), but I do get really fed up when people can’t present something for discussion without being accused of being ‘goady’. What IS goady? Something YOU don’t want to be discussed? We can’t all agree and I like to see people’s views challenged, rather than live in an echo chamber. Some posters inadvertently use a clumsy turn of phrase and are hounded off threads due to others being on a hair trigger about such things. Every little word is picked at and forensically examined for signs of racism, transphobia, ableism. Sometimes such views are really there. When, for example, I see a brutally ignorant remark about autism, I challenge it openly rather than ask for a deletion. Honestly, it’s like someone from a romance novel keeling over at the slightest thing and needing the smelling salts. Take a look on other social media platforms and you’ll see this place is pretty tame in comparison. No need for threads to look like a Swiss cheese.

Having seen the lies they told about Iraq and Syria and the fact that the UK was instrumental in bringing Al Qaeda into power in Syria (with the taxpayers money) and then inviting known Al Qaeda leaders to the UK in November 2025, I always err on the side of caution when the usual narrative is circulated. They (The UK) said they were helping freedom fighters in Syria, yet it was Al Qaeda - who slaughtered Syrians in the most horrific way.
The Manchester bomber was one of the UK's mercenaries against Gaddafi and was actually rescued by the Royal Navy before he committed the attrocity.
I also wonder why the same views are not held about Saudi and other gulf countries. It's ever so slightly hypocritical.

Please don’t compare Ukraine to those other countries.

Ukraine is a recognised, sovereign democracy, invaded by its neighbours in clear breach of international law.

If they had a brain the Ukrainian flag would still be flying there.

I care a lot about the plight of the Palestinian and Iranian peoples (suffering from the actions of the Israeli government as well as their own leaders in Palestine, and the Iranian people suffering under their evil regime). But they are comparable situations where flying the flag of the country sends a definite, unequivocal message.

You seem to have missed the point.

I'm not the moron saying they are the same.

Though frankly their support of Ukraine is no better informed than their support of the others. If it's more palatable it's only by accident.

This is a delusion take.

Fascinating diagnosis.

Weird to quote me and not the poster who made the post. The christian fundamentalism rise is coming from the US though.

Anyway I've already accepted in another post that I missed a vital part of that post I quoted and I disagree that christian fundamentalism is the same as islamic extremism.

If by "them" you mean Muslims or people that agree with the ideology the vast majority of Iranians (80%?) did not agree with the ideology or want a strict Islamic country.

That's ironic. Syria was a secular country and 90% of Syrians wanted it kept that way. (And Syria is 75% Sunni Muslim)
However, the UK and America funded and armed mercenaries on the borders, claiming they were 'freedom fighters' until Al Qaeda got into power. The Syrian Arab Army were actually fighting them.
Now the UK is fully supportive of and financially backing the new Al Qaeda led Presidency in Syria. Just because they wanted 'regime change' to suit their own political interests.

You could have just made the point that you were wrong and stopped there

They shouldn't be here, and in my opinion should be expelled for supporting a terror regime.

To the pp who stated they have a right to be represented, I strongly disagree.

The way women are treated, and men who speak out, should see this country expelled from all Western nations.

Those who are in the UK and support the horrifically brutal and evil rulers of Iran; I say to you: We are waking up as a Nation and will not be taken in to extreme Islam.

I think religious idiots should be chased well away from abortion clinics, as well as any pervert men who like to shout at women who have had sex, that's a real phenomenon unfortunately. They do not get to interfere in women's healthcare needs. However, I don't think women are in danger of being blown up there.

You're right to talk about this OP. We're only allowed to recognise one type of extremism eg that Adolescence tripe. Why is this? It is not racist in the slightest to interrogate the reason why we have a subsection of society who came to live here but hates us enough to commit terrorist attacks against us and who will openly mourn anti-Western despots.

When native British people are involved it's a status display for their cohort. I've know about the concept of suicidal empathy but it's misnamed imo because those who practise it never think they'll face the consequences of their luxury beliefs.

TBH I’m getting more and more worried about Christian Fundamentalism (which I say as a church going Catholic). This divine right they think they have to kill people, I think they believe that this is The Rapture. It’s one thing to invade or isolate a country because of the behaviour of a regime.. it’s the quite the other to see yourself as a modern day Crusader, fighting a “Holy War”.

Some of the langague and imaginary is just awful, and does not represent me as a Christian.. just as I’m sure there are plenty of Muslims horrified by Islamic Fundamentalism.

There are also some fundamentalist insular Jewish communities as well, and nobody is suggesting that they leave.

There are certain signs you can spot in racists. Often those who don’t apparently care if someone is any colour, eg ‘purple’. They always mention purple for some reason?!

As soon as somebody mentions TDS, I lose all respect for their opinion. I think they think it is an actual medical disorder!