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If you’re mourning the loss of Ayatollah Ali Khameni in the U.K., why do you want to live in the U.K.?

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dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 06:46

This is just a genuine question, and maybe a little ignorant on my part. But if you essentially worship someone who hates the West and everything the West stands for so much, why do you choose to live in the U.K.? Surely you must hate living here and would prefer to live in countries which follow similar repressive approaches as the IR, so why wouldn’t you move there?

And why has the U.K. allowed the Iranian’s to have an Embassy in London for so long, if they are so anti the West and are such a big security threat to our freedom.

This isn’t a goading post and has nothing to do with moderate Islam, I just don’t understand if you have such extreme views, why you choose to stay in a country that goes against everything you believe in?

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Daisy54 · 05/03/2026 14:15

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Very well put and I wholeheartedly agree.

thecatsgotyourtongue · 05/03/2026 14:16

dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 14:13

@JHoundwhy would people choose to grieve someone who sentences children and women to death because they have been raped? Why would someone grieve someone who gauges women’s eyes out and allows them no rights or freedoms. Your comparison to Charlie Kirk is the most laughable comment yet on this thread!

Saudi Arabia, along with a few other ME countries, executes 100s of people each year, we honour their leaders, we supply weapons, they have tea with the Royals, state visits.

We are a free country and people can mourn who they like, its not against the law is it.

ExtraOnions · 05/03/2026 14:17

EasternStandard · 05/03/2026 13:58

Given you’ve not experienced decades of brutal oppression it’s a bit much to suggest how they should be feeling.

The suggestion was, as you well know, that this current action may well not give them the rescue from the hardship of the current regime that they may be celebrating - based on other actions in the same region.

EasternStandard · 05/03/2026 14:22

ExtraOnions · 05/03/2026 14:17

The suggestion was, as you well know, that this current action may well not give them the rescue from the hardship of the current regime that they may be celebrating - based on other actions in the same region.

Give them their own space to celebrate. Maybe they will prevail despite people willing the opposite. Hopefully so.

InterIgnis · 05/03/2026 14:23

I don’t think it’s a ‘goading’ question at all.

The vast majority of Muslims are not practicing the particular brand of Shia that Iranian Regime was/is exporting. It’s a death cult, and the people taking to the streets in Iran celebrating his death were and are Muslims that despise it and him. That have suffered and died en masse because of it and him. The UAE, a Muslim country, no longer issues scholarships for students to study in the UK because of concerns over radicalism.

It’s especially ironic that, in the name of tolerating Islam, that there are those quite prepared to turn a blind eye to the most extreme element that wouldn’t hesitate to slaughter the very people they claim to be supporting.

It isn’t racist to recognize that the last thing a country wants to tolerate is a terrorist mindset endorsed, and funded by, a terrorist state.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 05/03/2026 14:25

rayjanna · 05/03/2026 07:02

Who is mourning his death?

Well Mothin Ali, for one.

KoiTetra · 05/03/2026 14:31

Mourning his death, not at all. He was a dictator who killed his own people, attacked other states and funded terrorists across the world. His death is no loss to humanity.

What I do mourn however is the loss of global laws. The US dropping in to Venezuela to take the sitting president, launching strikes against Iran against US and international law. It really does give the greenlight for countries to do whatever they want as long as they have the power to do it.

dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 14:33

@InterIgnissuch an interesting insight! Thank you for sharing? Are you Muslim? I wish the mainstream media would tell us more about this.

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dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 14:38

@KoiTetrayes totally appreciate that point of view! At the end of the day the majority of the big powers whether Russia/US etc etc do what they want!

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InterIgnis · 05/03/2026 14:40

ExtraOnions · 05/03/2026 14:17

The suggestion was, as you well know, that this current action may well not give them the rescue from the hardship of the current regime that they may be celebrating - based on other actions in the same region.

Do you think Persians are unaware of that? Or that they forgot the role the U.S played in ousting Mossadeigh in the 50s? They know, and yet they still begged the U.S and Israel to intervene because of how terrible the Iranian Regime is. They would rather risk the leap into the unknown than continue to live, or rather die, under the IRCG.

Iran is neither Iraq nor Afghanistan, culturally or geopolitically. One of the reasons the US struggled so much in Iraq and Afghanistan, incidentally, is because Iran was pouring money into insurgency.

EasternStandard · 05/03/2026 14:42

InterIgnis · 05/03/2026 14:40

Do you think Persians are unaware of that? Or that they forgot the role the U.S played in ousting Mossadeigh in the 50s? They know, and yet they still begged the U.S and Israel to intervene because of how terrible the Iranian Regime is. They would rather risk the leap into the unknown than continue to live, or rather die, under the IRCG.

Iran is neither Iraq nor Afghanistan, culturally or geopolitically. One of the reasons the US struggled so much in Iraq and Afghanistan, incidentally, is because Iran was pouring money into insurgency.

Thank you yes. People just group all together without insight into the people plus undermine what they know as you describe well.

Findingmypurposeinlife · 05/03/2026 14:44

@Greyblankie It's not just the current UK Government. And if you follow politics you would know that. It has been every Prime Minister of the UK since at least 2011 that has been supporting Al Qaeda with taxpayers money in Syria. Along with the Americans. And where is your source that Iran has 'sponsored' over twenty terrorist attacks on the UK.

And do you remember the Manchester bomber? He was one of the UK's mercenaries in Libya. He was rescued by the Royal Navy. And look how that turned out.

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 14:49

Findingmypurposeinlife · 05/03/2026 14:44

@Greyblankie It's not just the current UK Government. And if you follow politics you would know that. It has been every Prime Minister of the UK since at least 2011 that has been supporting Al Qaeda with taxpayers money in Syria. Along with the Americans. And where is your source that Iran has 'sponsored' over twenty terrorist attacks on the UK.

And do you remember the Manchester bomber? He was one of the UK's mercenaries in Libya. He was rescued by the Royal Navy. And look how that turned out.

Yes, which is why we need a new government - one that hasn’t been in charge before. A fresh start. The whole world is corrupt - every government in every country.

InterIgnis · 05/03/2026 15:00

dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 14:33

@InterIgnissuch an interesting insight! Thank you for sharing? Are you Muslim? I wish the mainstream media would tell us more about this.

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No, not Muslim myself. I have Bosniak and Persian family members and friends, and the extremism of the IRCG does not in any way represent my understanding or experience of Islam, or theirs. That ideology is something to be despised and feared, not invited to grow.

Bear in mind I grew up in 80s/90s Yugoslavia when ‘brotherhood and unity’ had died along with Tito, and we had Milosevic and his ilk fanning the flames of ethnic war (and Bosniaks were very much the victims of both Serbia and Croatia). Even in spite of that, I knew and know Khamenei to be both abhorrent and aberrant.

Findingmypurposeinlife · 05/03/2026 15:04

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 14:49

Yes, which is why we need a new government - one that hasn’t been in charge before. A fresh start. The whole world is corrupt - every government in every country.

So the UK needs regime change?

Oh, I couldn't find in your comment, your source to your claim that the UK Government has said there Iran had sponsored over twenty terrorist attacks in the UK

InterIgnis · 05/03/2026 15:23

Outside of the groups being funded by the IRGC, there are those butthurt over Khamenei/the IRGC because they saw him as an anti imperialist force against Israel and America.

Anti imperialists and leftists played a significant role in the 1979 revolution. They were used, very effectively, by Khomenei. Afterwards, when power was consolidated, they were systematically purged. Despite this, the same groups in other countries still think it’s in their interest to support the Regime. Useful fucking idiots indeed.

dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 15:29

@InterIgnisare you Iranian?

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dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 15:29

@InterIgnissorrt just seen this

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Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 15:36

Findingmypurposeinlife · 05/03/2026 15:04

So the UK needs regime change?

Oh, I couldn't find in your comment, your source to your claim that the UK Government has said there Iran had sponsored over twenty terrorist attacks in the UK

committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/1243/html/

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 15:38

Findingmypurposeinlife · 05/03/2026 15:04

So the UK needs regime change?

Oh, I couldn't find in your comment, your source to your claim that the UK Government has said there Iran had sponsored over twenty terrorist attacks in the UK

www.gov.uk/government/speeches/prime-ministers-oral-statement-on-iran-2-march-2026#:~:text=Here%20in%20the%20UK%2C%20Iran,This%20is%20a%20dangerous%20moment.

pikkumyy77 · 05/03/2026 15:39

dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 14:10

@pikkumyy77if that’s aimed at me you couldn’t be further from the truth! Because I dare to ask a question about why those with extreme Islamist views want to live in the U.K.?

Yes its aimed at you. Its a massively stupid question.

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 15:39

Findingmypurposeinlife · 05/03/2026 15:04

So the UK needs regime change?

Oh, I couldn't find in your comment, your source to your claim that the UK Government has said there Iran had sponsored over twenty terrorist attacks in the UK

“Regime change” as you call it (also known as national democratic elections) happens every few years in the UK, presumably you know this?

roundaboutthehillsareshining · 05/03/2026 15:43

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 15:39

“Regime change” as you call it (also known as national democratic elections) happens every few years in the UK, presumably you know this?

You realise that democratic orderly transition of power between organisations operating within a defined democratic constitutional framework isn't regime change? Regime change would be for a democratically elected organisation to break the constitution and refuse to participate in an orderly transition of power, therefore becoming authoritarian.....

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 15:45

roundaboutthehillsareshining · 05/03/2026 15:43

You realise that democratic orderly transition of power between organisations operating within a defined democratic constitutional framework isn't regime change? Regime change would be for a democratically elected organisation to break the constitution and refuse to participate in an orderly transition of power, therefore becoming authoritarian.....

It wasn’t me that called it regime change - I said we needed a new government - the PP called it regime change

Findingmypurposeinlife · 05/03/2026 15:50

InterIgnis · 05/03/2026 15:23

Outside of the groups being funded by the IRGC, there are those butthurt over Khamenei/the IRGC because they saw him as an anti imperialist force against Israel and America.

Anti imperialists and leftists played a significant role in the 1979 revolution. They were used, very effectively, by Khomenei. Afterwards, when power was consolidated, they were systematically purged. Despite this, the same groups in other countries still think it’s in their interest to support the Regime. Useful fucking idiots indeed.

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But that was after the British (M16) and United States (CIA) removed the democratically elected Iranian Prime Minister in 1953 because he demanded an audit on the Anglo-Iranian oil company. The British refused. The Iranian Prime Minister nationalised Iran's oil and the British and Americans carried out operations to remove him.
Many people accused the successive Shah of being repressive and corrupt and not fulfilling his agreements (including the Kurds) and embezzling Iranian money.