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If you’re mourning the loss of Ayatollah Ali Khameni in the U.K., why do you want to live in the U.K.?

299 replies

dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 06:46

This is just a genuine question, and maybe a little ignorant on my part. But if you essentially worship someone who hates the West and everything the West stands for so much, why do you choose to live in the U.K.? Surely you must hate living here and would prefer to live in countries which follow similar repressive approaches as the IR, so why wouldn’t you move there?

And why has the U.K. allowed the Iranian’s to have an Embassy in London for so long, if they are so anti the West and are such a big security threat to our freedom.

This isn’t a goading post and has nothing to do with moderate Islam, I just don’t understand if you have such extreme views, why you choose to stay in a country that goes against everything you believe in?

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LifeAdminAlways · 05/03/2026 11:36

TheBlueKoala · 05/03/2026 08:52

@dancingredshoes I am 100% with you on this. The majority of Iranians in west are antiregime and are celebrating the ayatollahs death. But there are people mourning and I'm as astonished as you are to what the fuck they are doing in the West!. Unbelievable that they are allowed to hold vigils!

Excellent post @BeAvidHiker btw!

Unbelievable that they are allowed to hold vigils!.

Don’t you believe in free speech etc? Even if it’s something you disagree with?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 05/03/2026 11:38

LifeAdminAlways · 05/03/2026 11:26

There are certain signs you can spot in racists. Often those who don’t apparently care if someone is any colour, eg ‘purple’. They always mention purple for some reason?!

The OP is about racists. I doubt those racists will be talking about purple. Why do some people always have to go back to some imaginary white racist stereotype when referring to someone who appears to be signalling that they genuinely mean no harm and are trying to address a topic that's been falsely made far more sensitive than it should be? There's cruelty in this faux-lefty non virtue-signalling as well as self-satisfaction.

quantumbutterfly · 05/03/2026 11:40

LifeAdminAlways · 05/03/2026 11:26

There are certain signs you can spot in racists. Often those who don’t apparently care if someone is any colour, eg ‘purple’. They always mention purple for some reason?!

Perhaps they're showing their tolerance for all things purple 🍆.

JHound · 05/03/2026 11:47

dancingredshoes · 05/03/2026 06:46

This is just a genuine question, and maybe a little ignorant on my part. But if you essentially worship someone who hates the West and everything the West stands for so much, why do you choose to live in the U.K.? Surely you must hate living here and would prefer to live in countries which follow similar repressive approaches as the IR, so why wouldn’t you move there?

And why has the U.K. allowed the Iranian’s to have an Embassy in London for so long, if they are so anti the West and are such a big security threat to our freedom.

This isn’t a goading post and has nothing to do with moderate Islam, I just don’t understand if you have such extreme views, why you choose to stay in a country that goes against everything you believe in?

Do you ask the same question of those in the UK who mourned the loss of Charlie Kirk?

I can think they are stupid in who the grieve but why does that impact where they chose to live?

PandoraSocks · 05/03/2026 11:47

CandidLurker · 05/03/2026 10:18

ITV news in the NorthWest reporting vigil held in Manchester commemorating the Supreme Leader of Iran. Up to 100 people gathered on Sidney Street off Oxford Road….A printed message was also displayed on the table which read “we believe, trust, admire the revolution”.

Up to 100 is a pretty small number, so reassuring in a way?

JHound · 05/03/2026 11:51

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LOL!

Yes immigration has FAILED. All thise immigrants, their kids, their grandkids all living normal but productive lives, all evidence of that FAILURE!

ArrghNoJustNo · 05/03/2026 11:55

JellyCatonToast · 05/03/2026 11:11

You could have just made the point that you were wrong and stopped there

I already did in another post, and still did in this one. Also not accepting that I was wrong in some.

You could have made your point without the condescension or is that what you wanted me to ignore?

Tauranga · 05/03/2026 12:12

JHound · 05/03/2026 11:47

Do you ask the same question of those in the UK who mourned the loss of Charlie Kirk?

I can think they are stupid in who the grieve but why does that impact where they chose to live?

Are you really saying that Charlie Kirk is equivalent to the Ayatollah ?

This shows your dangerous ignorance or are you deliberately pushing a fasle anology ?

Remember many bots are on here, directly from China and Iran. Don't apologise for any feelings you have, be aware that you don't have to be kind.

OonaStubbs · 05/03/2026 12:17

It's not surprising at all. Some people in Britain have always supported tyrants, Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, the house of Saud, the list goes on an on. It's better to just ignore them and treat them like the sad deluded fools that they are.

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:20

JHound · 05/03/2026 11:47

Do you ask the same question of those in the UK who mourned the loss of Charlie Kirk?

I can think they are stupid in who the grieve but why does that impact where they chose to live?

Yes because Charlie Kirk murdered thousands of innocent people and oppressed an entire country forcing them to live under extremist religious ideologies …

stupid comment.

EasternStandard · 05/03/2026 12:22

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:20

Yes because Charlie Kirk murdered thousands of innocent people and oppressed an entire country forcing them to live under extremist religious ideologies …

stupid comment.

Agree.

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:23

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:20

Yes because Charlie Kirk murdered thousands of innocent people and oppressed an entire country forcing them to live under extremist religious ideologies …

stupid comment.

Read it again.

There are loads of rulers that meet that definition. Pinochet did and Thatcher still openly spoke fondly of him on his death. To repeat what does grieving terrible people have to do with where somebody chooses to live?

Aislyn · 05/03/2026 12:25

Yanbu

Iranians are celebrating his death, quite rightly.

The only ones who seem to be mourning are the terrorist supporting, idiotic 'pro Pali' crowd, who are in this country because of the generous benefit system which they wouldn't get elsewhere.

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:27

Tauranga · 05/03/2026 12:12

Are you really saying that Charlie Kirk is equivalent to the Ayatollah ?

This shows your dangerous ignorance or are you deliberately pushing a fasle anology ?

Remember many bots are on here, directly from China and Iran. Don't apologise for any feelings you have, be aware that you don't have to be kind.

It was quite clear - what does grieving terrible people have to do with where somebody chooses to live?

pikkumyy77 · 05/03/2026 12:27

I’ll bite! You voted for Brexit but you like to go to Spain for a Holiday? You loved the Queen but thought Andrew is a pedophile but you would object if he was executed by ninjas? Is that how non sequiteurs work?

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:31

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:27

It was quite clear - what does grieving terrible people have to do with where somebody chooses to live?

Charlie Kirk was not a terrible person. He didn’t kill anyone. He simply had opinions which he chose to speak about. That was his right whether you agree with him or not. He didn’t kill anyone and did NOT deserve to be murdered.

This twat in Iran did.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/03/2026 12:33

TempestTost · 05/03/2026 10:40

You seem to have missed the point.

I'm not the moron saying they are the same.

Though frankly their support of Ukraine is no better informed than their support of the others. If it's more palatable it's only by accident.

Well I don’t know about that church and how informed they are.

I didn’t miss the point. I’m saying that supporting Ukraine doesn’t mean you’re some sort of bandwagon jumper - it’s objectively right and very important. And also massively in our national interest.

I don’t like that people are now lumping in those who support Ukraine with the “I support the current thing” brigade.

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:33

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:31

Charlie Kirk was not a terrible person. He didn’t kill anyone. He simply had opinions which he chose to speak about. That was his right whether you agree with him or not. He didn’t kill anyone and did NOT deserve to be murdered.

This twat in Iran did.

Edited

You haven’t answered my question.

ArrghNoJustNo · 05/03/2026 12:34

JHound · 05/03/2026 11:47

Do you ask the same question of those in the UK who mourned the loss of Charlie Kirk?

I can think they are stupid in who the grieve but why does that impact where they chose to live?

Oh cmon! Charlie Kirk and the Ayatollah in the same sentence? Not even close to the same thing.

Tauranga · 05/03/2026 12:35

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:27

It was quite clear - what does grieving terrible people have to do with where somebody chooses to live?

You drew an equivalence, of which there are none.

And addressing the point you are trying to make:

I believe the UK and the US are allies, and the Ayatollah as an enemy of the state. Therefore it is my opinion that those who support the latter should not live in the UK. If you grieve the death of an evil, murderous dictator who wishes death on our closest ally, then you have no business the UK.

This was the question posed by the Poster.

I am not interested in appealing to anyone with my opinions. I don't see the UK as belonging to the world. I do not agree that it is a human right to live here.

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:35

ArrghNoJustNo · 05/03/2026 12:34

Oh cmon! Charlie Kirk and the Ayatollah in the same sentence? Not even close to the same thing.

What does grieving terrible people have to do with where people choose to live?

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:39

Tauranga · 05/03/2026 12:35

You drew an equivalence, of which there are none.

And addressing the point you are trying to make:

I believe the UK and the US are allies, and the Ayatollah as an enemy of the state. Therefore it is my opinion that those who support the latter should not live in the UK. If you grieve the death of an evil, murderous dictator who wishes death on our closest ally, then you have no business the UK.

This was the question posed by the Poster.

I am not interested in appealing to anyone with my opinions. I don't see the UK as belonging to the world. I do not agree that it is a human right to live here.

The UK and US are clearly not allies.

And by that token Thatcher grieving the death of Pinochet, an “evil murderous dictator” meant she should not have lived in the UK?

I think there are millions of reasons to critique anybody who cares about the death of Khameini but I don’t see any reason why that mean would mean they “should not live in the UK.”

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:39

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:33

You haven’t answered my question.

Because the twat in Iran saw the west as an enemy. He was a supporter (and financier) of terrorism including on our streets in Britain. If you like that kind of thing - you don’t belong in the UK.

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:40

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:39

Because the twat in Iran saw the west as an enemy. He was a supporter (and financier) of terrorism including on our streets in Britain. If you like that kind of thing - you don’t belong in the UK.

Which terrorism in Britain did he sponsor?

Greyblankie · 05/03/2026 12:40

JHound · 05/03/2026 12:35

What does grieving terrible people have to do with where people choose to live?

Again, Kirk wasn’t a terrible person. You’re comparing a person with outspoken opinions with a dictator who murdered thousands of people.