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Is this illegal?

373 replies

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 14:12

Discovered someone is cheating on his wife and have contacted two of his siblings to tell them so they can surreptitiously investigate and look out for the wife. I can't prove it as it would be hearsay, but I hoped they'd try and look at his devices or keep an ear out to gain evidence. Have I gone too far? I absolutely know this is happening.

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Sahara123 · 04/03/2026 15:06

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 14:31

It's not her siblings. It's his. I thought they might knock some sense into their stupid brother.

You really need to stop now. This sounds like it’s absolutely none of your business.

APatternGrammar · 04/03/2026 15:06

If someone contacted me about my brother having an affair I would delete and ignore. I have a good relationship with him but that wouldn't extend to getting involved in his decisions. Message the wife or leave it.

Lookskywalker · 04/03/2026 15:09

Sahara123 · 04/03/2026 15:06

You really need to stop now. This sounds like it’s absolutely none of your business.

Yeah I was thinking the same. I can’t imagine sibs beating up their brother because he’s having an affair.

raspberets · 04/03/2026 15:10

WorstPaceScenario · 04/03/2026 15:04

My advice is to stay well out of it. I had a friend's husband tell me about his various affairs and relentlessly pursue me. When she confided in me that she thought he might eb cheating, I told her what I knew. That was 22 years ago and they're still together, she's caught him cheating since, and he still occasionally pursues me for sex. The only person who was left feeling awkward in that situation was me.

A friend of a friend’s husband was a dog (love dogs but I mean he couldn’t stop cocking his leg everywhere, with anyone). Friend tried to talking to her and she metaphorically put her hands over her ears saying ‘can’t hear you’. Some women do not want to know.

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 15:10

raspberets · 04/03/2026 15:01

Stepchild?

No relation whatsoever, I've never met him in my life. Only seen pictures of him. And I am not impressed by those.

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LollipopLil · 04/03/2026 15:11

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 14:17

Mumsnet doesn't like that. I'd be accused of blowing her life up, of interfering, told she probably knows anyway, they are swingers, that sort of thing. I thought this way someone could try and find some evidence and then confront him.

"Mumsnet doesn't like that"

Lol, very entertaining OP! 👏

Woodfiresareamazing · 04/03/2026 15:11

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 14:57

Yes they will probably not have his PIN if he has one or get access.

Would you tell the wife directly? I thought of it but then I thought of all the posts I've seen on here saying that it's bitchy, spiteful etc. I don't know her well but what I know of her is she's a decent woman and loyal to her sleazy husband.

If I was the wife, I would want to know.

So I think you should tell her.

It might possibly blow up her life. But the life she is living is actually a lie.

Luckyingame · 04/03/2026 15:12

No, it's not illegal to stick your beak into other people's affairs. Literally.
Not sure if it should be, though.

raspberets · 04/03/2026 15:12

LollipopLil · 04/03/2026 15:11

"Mumsnet doesn't like that"

Lol, very entertaining OP! 👏

🤣

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 15:14

Lifeomars · 04/03/2026 15:01

Have you seen them together hand in hand, have you seen them out for a meal, kissing, or indeed engaged in any activity that might lead you to assume they are seeing each other? You say in your first post that you "can't prove it as it would be hersay" which I assume means that somebody told you and until it can be proved it is gossip. This I assume is why you (unwisely in my opionion) you have asked other people to look for substansive proof. It will never reflect well on you no matter what happens and is not something I would ever cotempate doing. However you seem determined, I wonder what is motivating you

What's motivating me is fairness.

I have seen evidence that proves what is going on but I don't have access to that. That is what I mean by hearsay. Not that someone told me that someone told them that Bill is ......

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Sassylovesbooks · 04/03/2026 15:14

The man's siblings aren't going to be able to get proof that he's cheating. All they can do is ask him if he's cheating on his wife. If he says No, then what??? Also why would the siblings tell their brother's wife, he's cheating? Blood is thicker than water, regardless if the siblings think his behaviour is dreadful; they're more likely keep quiet and say nothing at all.

I don't think you'll get the outcome you want. I'm not saying the siblings won't saying anything to their brother but I don't think it will go much further than that. If you want his wife to know, then you needed to tell her yourself. Unfortunately, unless you have proof, then the likelihood is, that no one will believe you.

Coconutter24 · 04/03/2026 15:14

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 14:35

Yes, it would be hearsay from me if I said Bill is having an affair, as I cannot prove it, but I can show them how they can prove it. But I did not find out via hearsay. I found out from the horse's mouth, so to speak. I know it is happening. I have seen evidence and it has been going on since 2022.

Edited

If you know how it can be proved why don’t you tell her and then prove it?

Arlanymor · 04/03/2026 15:15

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 14:31

It's not her siblings. It's his. I thought they might knock some sense into their stupid brother.

Sorry I am on a crap temporary internet connection and didn't see the 'his'. That said they are still her in-laws and you are spreading the information amongst a wider group of people that she is related to - that's still embarrassing and humiliating and she still doesn't know. If you insist on getting involved you need to speak to the people directly involved, not siblings. It's not the job of the siblings to 'knock sense' into anyone, you're just inveigling more people in this painful situation. It feels more like meddling than anything else. Either deal with it directly or stay the hell away. Why don't you speak to him? If you're convinced he's doing this then just talk to him, it's a bit of a cop out to go around the houses.

raspberets · 04/03/2026 15:15

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 15:14

What's motivating me is fairness.

I have seen evidence that proves what is going on but I don't have access to that. That is what I mean by hearsay. Not that someone told me that someone told them that Bill is ......

You mean if you repeat/say it, it will be considered hearsay.

Nevermind17 · 04/03/2026 15:15

This is absolutely none of your business and you need to stay out of it. If you’re truly disgusted by your friend’s behaviour, then end the friendship.

Aside from that, stay out of it. Do you really expect the siblings to find evidence and present it to their SIL? They’re far more likely to protect their brother.

I say this as someone who has been the wife in this situation and although I wish someone had told me, being honest I probably wouldn’t have believed them. His wife isn’t your responsibility.

raspberets · 04/03/2026 15:16

So, what are you going to do then? How are you going to get hold of his phone?

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 15:16

Coconutter24 · 04/03/2026 15:14

If you know how it can be proved why don’t you tell her and then prove it?

It could be proved by her checking his phone, messenger, bank statements (perhaps), wallet, or saying to her to show up at the Mexican Discotheque at 7.30 next Thursday, or follow Bill when he says he's out with the lads, I guess.

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Beachtastic · 04/03/2026 15:17

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 14:57

Yes they will probably not have his PIN if he has one or get access.

Would you tell the wife directly? I thought of it but then I thought of all the posts I've seen on here saying that it's bitchy, spiteful etc. I don't know her well but what I know of her is she's a decent woman and loyal to her sleazy husband.

I know what you mean, it's all a bit damned-if-you-do/damned-if-you-don't.

You seem to have good intentions, OP - what made you pick the brothers? Do you know them well? Are they likely to be interested/take action? Have you had any response from them?

LilyBunch25 · 04/03/2026 15:17

Not sure about illegality. Fairly sure you're probably getting involved in something that potentially isn't your business though. Why have you done this?

Marwoodsbigbreak · 04/03/2026 15:17

A bit confusing but I think I got there finally.

You have a friend who has been having an affair with a married man for years.

Rather than tell the wife, you decide the best course of action is to tell the cheater’s siblings?! I would delete and ignore any such communication about my siblings.

I don’t understand why you thought this was a good option.

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 15:19

Beachtastic · 04/03/2026 15:17

I know what you mean, it's all a bit damned-if-you-do/damned-if-you-don't.

You seem to have good intentions, OP - what made you pick the brothers? Do you know them well? Are they likely to be interested/take action? Have you had any response from them?

It's a brother and a sister. Yes, the sister has responded actually and said she doesn't speak to him anymore, because of a falling out (I didn't ask what) but she will have a think about what to do going forwards.

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raspberets · 04/03/2026 15:19

Mexican discotheque?

😁

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 15:21

raspberets · 04/03/2026 15:19

Mexican discotheque?

😁

Just a silly example. To avoid me saying the White Bear in Tunbridge Wells.

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raspberets · 04/03/2026 15:21

Sorry OP, you have a certain manner about you and it’s making me laugh. Nothing personal.

Lookskywalker · 04/03/2026 15:21

CarlStoleMyUnderpants · 04/03/2026 15:19

It's a brother and a sister. Yes, the sister has responded actually and said she doesn't speak to him anymore, because of a falling out (I didn't ask what) but she will have a think about what to do going forwards.

This just makes me so uncomfortable. So his no contact sibling you want to get back in contact with him so as to nab his phone and go through it.

do you generally have an issue with appropriate boundaries?