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Mass grave prepared for the school girl massacre, 165 souls

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Dirtydianaoh · 04/03/2026 01:34

For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!
vm.tiktok.com/ZNRmF3SGc/

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sabababa · 04/03/2026 11:16

usedtobeaylis · 04/03/2026 11:05

Amazing how often the people Israel are bombing fuck out of do their job for them with misfiring missiles and rockets.

Really? Because I've only seen a few limited cases. And surely the question is why are they firing missiles at civilians?

Wellthisisdifficult · 04/03/2026 11:16

rainingsnoring · 04/03/2026 10:38

Another chilling post, attempting to justify the aggression of the Israelis. One has to wonder at the character of some people. No wonder so many atrocities happen when some are prepared to shrug off so much murder and aggression.

If you are now heading into the realm of ad hominem arguments then it’s really have over for you really.

I’m not a useful idiot bleeting “from the river to the sea”, If you find my post “chilling” you really have little grasp on the intentions of the Islamist states in the ME.

Lifesd · 04/03/2026 11:16

I don’t think Iran gives a shit about school girls given they have lowered the marriage age to what is it - 8? It is absolutely tragic as are all lives lost - including the many tens of thousands of Iranians who have died at the hands of their own leaders

FloralDeerPattern · 04/03/2026 11:17

inamarina · 04/03/2026 11:11

Why would Israel and the US randomly target innocent children?

I don't know we could ask the parents of the 14 year old boy that Israeli soldiers stood over and watched bleed to death just last week?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqwv9vvzx9o

Who knows why anyone would want to watch children suffer and die but clearly some people do.

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Israeli soldiers shot a Palestinian boy and stood around as he bled to death, video shows

Israeli forces blocked Palestinian ambulances while a 14-year-old lay bleeding for at least 45 minutes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqwv9vvzx9o

sabababa · 04/03/2026 11:18

FloralDeerPattern · 04/03/2026 11:05

I just watched a video on sky news of premature babies being evacuated from a hospital in Iran that has been hit by Israel/the US. I feel like we've seen this before only at least they were allowed to evacuate the tiny babies in Iran instead of being actively prevented from helping them like in Gaza where Israel left them to die alone.

Schools, hospitals, what's next?

You remember when iran fired directly at a hospital in israel in June? As in direct hit?

I bet the hospital in question hadn't been hit at all but probably next to a blast and so being evacuated. Otherwise the regime would be having a field day

Notonthestairs · 04/03/2026 11:19

There are number of existing armed opposition groups in Iran. The problem is that their interests do not necessarily coincide & they dont trust each other.
So even if the existing murderous regime is killed and the military lay down their arms (which will almost surely lead to their own destruction) they will be a struggle between internal rival groups which may well lead to violence.

In addition even before the bombing inflation was at 40% (70% on food stuffs) and severe water shortages - reservoirs feeding Tehran at 11%.

As power/water/medical infrastructure are bombed or simply degrade then the humanitarian crisis (crises) rises. Which will lead to a refugee crises.

There is no straightforward path to peace in Iran that can I see.

EasternStandard · 04/03/2026 11:19

Lifesd · 04/03/2026 11:16

I don’t think Iran gives a shit about school girls given they have lowered the marriage age to what is it - 8? It is absolutely tragic as are all lives lost - including the many tens of thousands of Iranians who have died at the hands of their own leaders

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It really is.

sabababa · 04/03/2026 11:21

FloralDeerPattern · 04/03/2026 11:17

I don't know we could ask the parents of the 14 year old boy that Israeli soldiers stood over and watched bleed to death just last week?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqwv9vvzx9o

Who knows why anyone would want to watch children suffer and die but clearly some people do.

While inexcusable what happened there, there is a huge difference between what is happening in the west bank and iran and the involvement of the civilian population. If you dont know that then you have no understanding of the middle east whatsoever.

Israel has no conflict whatsoever with the Iranian population. There is no conflict over land, no conflict over resources. Israel wants nothing from iran. Nothing. This conflict is 100% driven by the extremist fascist Islamic regime

Wellthisisdifficult · 04/03/2026 11:22

FloralDeerPattern · 04/03/2026 11:17

I don't know we could ask the parents of the 14 year old boy that Israeli soldiers stood over and watched bleed to death just last week?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpqwv9vvzx9o

Who knows why anyone would want to watch children suffer and die but clearly some people do.

This is aweful, but the actions of a few soliders.what we are talking about is government sanctioned systemic abuse. I have attached an overview of the issues around child welfare in Iran
wncri.org/2025/11/18/iranian-children-poverty-discrimination/

RosaMundi27 · 04/03/2026 11:25

Dirtydianaoh · 04/03/2026 01:34

For a nation to say they care about women and girl rights and liberation, and then to bomb a school wtf?!
vm.tiktok.com/ZNRmF3SGc/

You'll no doubt be pleased to know that this was a failed rocket launch from the Iranian regime. But you're probably sad that you don't get to blame the Americans and the Jewish people for it.

ACynicalDad · 04/03/2026 11:26

Some of what I've read about intelligence and the precision of their bombing, I very much doubt this was US or Israel, but the Iranians will spin what they can.

HappyFace2025 · 04/03/2026 11:30

Dragonflytamer · 04/03/2026 10:55

Again a stupid post. It is not an opinion to think there are more than one way to deal with terrorists. That is a fact.

And yet nobody including yourself has come up with any solution to prevent terrorists like Hamas etc. So no, my post wasn't stupid.

TheIceBear · 04/03/2026 11:36

rainingsnoring · 04/03/2026 10:38

Another chilling post, attempting to justify the aggression of the Israelis. One has to wonder at the character of some people. No wonder so many atrocities happen when some are prepared to shrug off so much murder and aggression.

Horrendous isn’t it ? Like as if to say some innocent children deserve to be murdered more than others.

sabababa · 04/03/2026 11:50

TheIceBear · 04/03/2026 11:36

Horrendous isn’t it ? Like as if to say some innocent children deserve to be murdered more than others.

Right! Because I haven't seen any of the igrc girl fans say a word about them firing cluster bombs to civilian areas of israel

FloralDeerPattern · 04/03/2026 11:56

Wellthisisdifficult · 04/03/2026 11:22

This is aweful, but the actions of a few soliders.what we are talking about is government sanctioned systemic abuse. I have attached an overview of the issues around child welfare in Iran
wncri.org/2025/11/18/iranian-children-poverty-discrimination/

You might have a point if this was an isolated incident but it's not. Israel have been show to systematically use sexual, reproductive and other forms of gender-based against women and girls. They are the world's most profuse child killers. There is no getting away from that but Iran are bad too isn't a defence. The Israeli regime is responsible for disgusting crimes. The Iranian regime is responsible for disgusting crimes. I am defending neither and I don't think anyone else should either.

www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other

inamarina · 04/03/2026 11:57

sabababa · 04/03/2026 11:50

Right! Because I haven't seen any of the igrc girl fans say a word about them firing cluster bombs to civilian areas of israel

Or about them killing their own citizens for protesting.
There have been recent reports of Basij forces firing directly at several residential buildings in response to residents chanting anti-regime slogans from their homes.

sabababa · 04/03/2026 11:58

rainingsnoring · 04/03/2026 10:55

He's very consistently shown himself to be just that.

He really hasn't. He has a lack of vision, plays with the far right and has a lot of self interest and few ethics. But not a monster. At the end of the day, when he lost elections, there was a peaceful transfer of power

And while I think his weak point and achilles heel is lack of vision and bravery to end the Palestinian conflict, he's been consistent, clear eyed and ultimately correct about iran

sabababa · 04/03/2026 12:01

FloralDeerPattern · 04/03/2026 11:56

You might have a point if this was an isolated incident but it's not. Israel have been show to systematically use sexual, reproductive and other forms of gender-based against women and girls. They are the world's most profuse child killers. There is no getting away from that but Iran are bad too isn't a defence. The Israeli regime is responsible for disgusting crimes. The Iranian regime is responsible for disgusting crimes. I am defending neither and I don't think anyone else should either.

www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other

"They are the world's most profuse child killers'

Yeah, course they are. What tiktok video did you get rhat little soundbite from?

Bringemout · 04/03/2026 12:08

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 04/03/2026 07:55

Yes, the US and Israel are evil.

I thought this was well known no?

I mean look at the history of both countries?

When Pakistan attacked east pakistan (now Bangladesh) 500’000 people died, between 170-200 thousand abortions took place, between 300-400 thousand women were raped. I believe something like 30’000 women committed suicide as a result of their rape and torture,

The idea that the USA or Israel are uniquely evil is a nonsense. By this measure would we not say Pakistan is an evil state?

What about Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge killed 40% of it’s own population. What about Iran, it literally killed 35’000 plus in a few days. It helped to murder something like 500’000 people in syria.

As I said, people have blindspot they try to shove their ideology into.

Dragonflytamer · 04/03/2026 12:12

HappyFace2025 · 04/03/2026 11:30

And yet nobody including yourself has come up with any solution to prevent terrorists like Hamas etc. So no, my post wasn't stupid.

It's shocking that the only response you can think of to a terrorist incident is genocide.

timeserved · 04/03/2026 12:14

Wellthisisdifficult · 04/03/2026 09:17

You see I have a good memory and recall very well the massacre of innocents by Hamas (likely funded by Iran) when they stormed over the Israeli border from Gaza slaughtering, raping and kidnapping innocent civilians. Do you remember that?

I don’t understand how Israel can have such excellent intel on the whereabouts of various high-ups in hamas, hezbolla, Iran but unable to have advance warning of nor spot a load of pickups and motorcycles coming through their fence. Those events were tragic, and /but look where they have lead the world; Bibi’s wet dream. Call me a conspiracy theorist

Bringemout · 04/03/2026 12:15

FloralDeerPattern · 04/03/2026 11:56

You might have a point if this was an isolated incident but it's not. Israel have been show to systematically use sexual, reproductive and other forms of gender-based against women and girls. They are the world's most profuse child killers. There is no getting away from that but Iran are bad too isn't a defence. The Israeli regime is responsible for disgusting crimes. The Iranian regime is responsible for disgusting crimes. I am defending neither and I don't think anyone else should either.

www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/03/more-human-can-bear-israels-systematic-use-sexual-reproductive-and-other

Ok so I don’t know about the “standard operating practice stuff”. It should be investigated and exposed, no woman should be subject to sexual or other types of violence.

Not having access to a hospital because you are in a war zone is very common. The sudanese, ukrainians etc etc do not have access to high quality healthcare because there is a war. This is not unique to Gaza. The argument used here about preventing reproduction is a plank to support a genocide argument. But it’s a nonsense argument.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 04/03/2026 12:25

Bringemout · 04/03/2026 12:08

When Pakistan attacked east pakistan (now Bangladesh) 500’000 people died, between 170-200 thousand abortions took place, between 300-400 thousand women were raped. I believe something like 30’000 women committed suicide as a result of their rape and torture,

The idea that the USA or Israel are uniquely evil is a nonsense. By this measure would we not say Pakistan is an evil state?

What about Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge killed 40% of it’s own population. What about Iran, it literally killed 35’000 plus in a few days. It helped to murder something like 500’000 people in syria.

As I said, people have blindspot they try to shove their ideology into.

No the question i responded to was do we think the US and Isreal are evil?

My answer is unequivocally yes.

Pakistan Cambodia etc absolutely evil.

More than one thing can be true at the same time.

sabababa · 04/03/2026 12:26

timeserved · 04/03/2026 12:14

I don’t understand how Israel can have such excellent intel on the whereabouts of various high-ups in hamas, hezbolla, Iran but unable to have advance warning of nor spot a load of pickups and motorcycles coming through their fence. Those events were tragic, and /but look where they have lead the world; Bibi’s wet dream. Call me a conspiracy theorist

They had the intel. They didnt interpret it correctly, they were sure they knew what hamas was doing.

Same thing that happened in 1973.

You underestimate arrogance fuelled incompetence

TheIceBear · 04/03/2026 12:29

sabababa · 04/03/2026 11:50

Right! Because I haven't seen any of the igrc girl fans say a word about them firing cluster bombs to civilian areas of israel

You are determined to defend murderers. Just because people do not agree with the evil atrocities that Israel have committed it does not make them “igrc fan girls”.

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