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School refusing 3 days off for DS AIBU

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BaronPencil · 03/03/2026 18:07

I suspect I am going to get flamed for this but I genuinely do not know what the right call is.

DS is 14, 15 in the summer, and he hates school. Not in a mild way, he actively resents it. Says it is pointless, says most of the boys mess about anyway but he gets picked up more because he answers back. There is probably some truth in that but he absolutely does not help himself.

He is basically on his last warning behaviour wise. We have had meetings with head of year and deputy head. They have used phrases like final chance, serious concerns about attitude, risk of not being invited back next year if there is no improvement. So yes, thin ice is putting it mildly.

Behaviour issues include:

Constant low level disruption
Talking when teacher is talking
Refusing to move seats when asked
Eye rolling and muttering under his breath
Not handing homework in repeatedly
Detentions for not turning up to detentions
Once told a teacher “this is why no one takes this subject seriously”

There was also an incident last year where he made some stupid misogynistic comments in class about girls being “too emotional” for leadership which got him into a huge amount of trouble. He swears he was joking but it was not funny and I was absolutely furious with him. School took it very seriously. Since then they have him firmly labelled as a problem child I think.

He is not SEN. There is no diagnosis, no learning issue. He just does not like being told what to do and he is not a straight A academic star which I sometimes think is what this particular school really values above everything else. He is capable of good grades but only when he feels like it which is not often.

The only area where he has ever been consistently positive is drama.

He got into acting at 12 through the school drama club. Completely by accident really, a friend dragged him along. He got a part in the school production and something just switched. Teachers were emailing saying how focused he was in rehearsals, how supportive of other cast members. It was like reading about someone else.

We then enrolled him in a local theatre group and he loves it. Properly loves it. He will practise accents in his bedroom, watch performances online, ask for feedback. It is the only thing he puts real effort into without being nagged.

Now he has been cast in a proper local theatre production. Rehearsals are evenings and weekends so that has not interfered with school at all.

But the performances include three weekday matinees in the last week before Easter holidays. So he would miss three full days right before they break up.

His attendance is currently 95 percent. But he is absolutely on his last warning behaviour wise.

I emailed school explaining the opportunity and asking if the absence could be authorised given it is a legitimate production and not just a random day off. I did mention that drama is the only area where he truly excels and that this could be positive for him.

Reply was very clear. No authorised absence for external activities. Policy is policy. If we keep him off it will be recorded as unauthorised absence and may be considered alongside his existing behaviour record.

I did ask whether there was any discretion given it is the last week before holidays and most of the academic content is winding down (yes I know that sounds dismissive). They said learning continues until the final day and expectations apply to all pupils equally.

DS’s view is blunt. He says acting is the only thing he is actually good at and the only reason he bothers trying at anything. He says if we make him miss it we are proving that school matters more to us than he does. He also says school already think he is a lost cause so what difference will three days make.

Part of me thinks he has not exactly earned special favours given his attitude. If anything he should be bending over backwards to show compliance right now not asking for time off. I can already hear people saying natural consequences and maybe that is fair.

But another part of me thinks if the one thing that genuinely motivates him is acting then why would we squash that, especially when school itself introduced him to it in the first place.

We pay a lot for this school because we wanted structure and high standards. I just did not anticipate feeling like the only area my son shines would be treated as irrelevant.

So AIBU to think they could show flexibility even though he is on his last warning and hardly model pupil of the year? Or is this exactly the kind of situation where the answer has to be no because of his behaviour record.

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Moveoverdarlin · 03/03/2026 19:43

I’m a stickler for attendance but even I think he should do the production. BUT, sit him down and have a stern, frank chat and say ‘Listen if I let you miss school and do the production, don’t you dare give that school reason to kick you out. I am putting my faith in you because I know you are fantastic at acting, but please please change your attitude at school for the next 18 months. Don’t give them an excuse to bollock you. Just get your head down, do what’s asked and I will fully support you in any extra drama stuff you do out of school. I’m trusting you on this, and it’s me that will get hauled in to school if you balls up.’

Absolute worst case scenario is he gets kicked out, and he’ll have to go to another school. As long as you all know this then I would press ahead.

If the production goes well, could you get some sort of character reference from one of the drama teachers singing the praises of your son and get them to do a bit of ass licking by saying he was an asset to the production, he comes to life on stage, blah blah. Might help, might not.

SheilaFentiman · 03/03/2026 19:44

User79853257976 · 03/03/2026 19:37

Worth a try.

Not really!

Motherofacertainage · 03/03/2026 19:44

My school would always authorise this ; it’s an educational activity! I have never heard of a child not being allowed to perform in a production or a sporting competition (unless they would miss an actual external exam); it’s not even as though Private schools are subject to the same pressure on attendance figures as the rest of us so they are being very unreasonable imho. Forcing him to miss out on an opportunity which will be really positive for him is hardly going to improve his attitude towards the school. Focussing on the things he is good at, celebrating this success and encouraging positive behaviours would be the way I’d approach it. Using this as a punishment for past behaviours will be counterproductive and just because the school a seem to be being vindictive you should avoid it if you want him to be happy and develop a better attitude!

LaurieFairyCake · 03/03/2026 19:45

No idea why my post was deleted 🤷‍♀️

let him go to the theatre, the more you say about the expectations forced on him (rugby? When he’s shown no interest in it?)

support him to do what he chooses as a career, he doesn’t care about this school or maximising the opportunities from it

MayasJamas · 03/03/2026 19:46

Moveoverdarlin · 03/03/2026 19:43

I’m a stickler for attendance but even I think he should do the production. BUT, sit him down and have a stern, frank chat and say ‘Listen if I let you miss school and do the production, don’t you dare give that school reason to kick you out. I am putting my faith in you because I know you are fantastic at acting, but please please change your attitude at school for the next 18 months. Don’t give them an excuse to bollock you. Just get your head down, do what’s asked and I will fully support you in any extra drama stuff you do out of school. I’m trusting you on this, and it’s me that will get hauled in to school if you balls up.’

Absolute worst case scenario is he gets kicked out, and he’ll have to go to another school. As long as you all know this then I would press ahead.

If the production goes well, could you get some sort of character reference from one of the drama teachers singing the praises of your son and get them to do a bit of ass licking by saying he was an asset to the production, he comes to life on stage, blah blah. Might help, might not.

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Couldn’t have said it better than this ⬆️

Jasmine222 · 03/03/2026 19:48

Poor kid. I'd act out too if my parents put me in a school that I hated and refused to move me, just because my Dad went there. You clearly are showing him that he doesnt matter and that his feelings and wishes dont matter. He absolutely needs to do these matinees and he needs to move schools!! And you sound like you cant stand up to your husband.

LlynTegid · 03/03/2026 19:48

I agree with the school. Imagine how it looks to other pupils or their parents.

NameChangeElaine · 03/03/2026 19:49

So AIBU to think they could show flexibility even though he is on his last warning and hardly model pupil of the year? Or is this exactly the kind of situation where the answer has to be no because of his behaviour record.

I think they’re saying no and refusing flexibility because they want to get rid of him and see this as the perfect opportunity to do so; my guess is they’re hoping to force your hand to go against the school rules therefore making it nice and easy for them because it’s not just your son that’s the problem then, but you the parents as well.

I think you’re going to have to scrap this year and enrol him in year 10 again somewhere else, maybe a performing arts school? Is he at the level where he’d pass an audition? The problem with that though, is that he’d still have to sit the core subjects and if he keeps the same attitude towards them as he has now then he’ll get the boot again or at the very least pulled from productions / showcases i.e. a repeat of this very scenario.

singlepringle12 · 03/03/2026 19:49

Take him to the shows. You will have to suck up the unauthorized absence marks. Those should be looked at separately to his behaviour.
HOWEVER you need a firm, honest sit down ultimatum with him - he sorts his shit out now, or you cannot continue to support him with shows etc. he needs to understand that he gets to do what he loves when he’s showing respect in all areas of his life. Sounds like his don’t care attitude has been enabled for far too long & now you will struggle to change it tbh. Also, a school that is right for others, is clearly not right for him. Everyone is an individual & should be treated as such, you are not breeding robots designed to all do exactly the same?
If you don’t allow him to do the shows, you are in a huge negative spiral. You will need to support him in this, positive encouragement but an actual firm approach for consistency with his attitude or you are no longer paying for the drama classes!

Smarvellous · 03/03/2026 19:49

Agree with pp re: using it as a bargaining tool, ideally with school's agreement. So XYZ needs to happen for a month. Are there any teachers (drama?) you could yet onboard? And properly look at moving schools, apply etc and see what's on offer before you write it off as an option.

AlcoholicAntibiotic · 03/03/2026 19:50

LlynTegid · 03/03/2026 19:48

I agree with the school. Imagine how it looks to other pupils or their parents.

That one of their pupils is being successful in an extra-curricular activity?

atamlin · 03/03/2026 19:50

Well no, they can’t approve that. Close family funerals are probably the most they’d approve.

Just keep him off and send an email explaining why you’re doing it. It sounds like he’s found his calling!

ChalkOrCheese · 03/03/2026 19:50

The fact he is respectful at theatre and not school would solidfy the No for me because its proof he is in control of his attitude and cba. I wouldn't parent worrying about whether he might resent me. If he's that good he will get another chance.

PurpleH · 03/03/2026 19:51

When did he find out he had the part? Why not give an ultimatum that his behaviour had to improve if he wants to take part or he’s not doing it

JLou08 · 03/03/2026 19:51

Let them put it down as unauthorised and send him to the performances. I wouldn't risk the one thing he is motivated and committed to. I'd consider looking for a better suited school too, he might even do better in a state school.

Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:52

Whizzgosh · 03/03/2026 19:40

Dd did a few similar performances and plenty of dance exams throughout her school life, there was never any issue with her having time off school, they classed as educated elsewhere or something along those lines.

She was probably a good student, conscientious and diligent.

Jasmine222 · 03/03/2026 19:52

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 03/03/2026 19:42

I think this child has been forced into an establishment that doesn’t suit his temperament because of “family tradition” and the father would rather blame the son than fix his own attitude.

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I agree

Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:53

PurpleH · 03/03/2026 19:51

When did he find out he had the part? Why not give an ultimatum that his behaviour had to improve if he wants to take part or he’s not doing it

Yes. He's switching on the misogyny, rudeness and disrespect.
It's a choice.

CJsGoldfish · 03/03/2026 19:53

Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:19

Does he suddenly switch off the disrespect, rudeness and misogyny when he's doing drama?.

This.
He's all of those things but gets rewarded by doing what HE wants when he wants rather than having to address his behaviour. He is old enough for a life lesson. Sometimes you have to compromise. Improved behaviour, which he's quite capable of, clearly, for the payoff of performing in this production.
You really should be as supportive of his education as you are of his 'acting'. Such a missed opportunity

CuddlyBlankets · 03/03/2026 19:54

I work in a state high school.

I would consider a radical change in spring here.

Possibly take him out of school and home educate. Ensure he passes GCSE maths, English Drama and whatever other couple of subjects he can tolerate.

Then consider sixth for HNDs in performing arts which may only need low GCSE passes to get in.

And have a stern word to him about his behaviour otherwise the arrangement will end and he’ll have to take his chances in state secondary for year 11 like it or not.

Motherofacertainage · 03/03/2026 19:55

atamlin · 03/03/2026 19:50

Well no, they can’t approve that. Close family funerals are probably the most they’d approve.

Just keep him off and send an email explaining why you’re doing it. It sounds like he’s found his calling!

I cannot understand how a private school is saying they are unable to approve this? Any state secondary I know would put it down as “education off site “ and private schools don’t have the same ofsted pressures for attendance. It would definitely be worth testing this stance. Are the school claiming they have never previously given a student time off for performing in a play - or sporting fixture?! It’s frankly unbelievable that this will be the case.

FunnyOrca · 03/03/2026 19:56

3 days unauthorised won’t really mean much at a private school. If they want rid of him they want rid of him.

If his own results aren’t going to be stellar and his presence/behaviour might compromise other students’ learning, they might be planning to say goodbye to him.

His drama achievements sound great and might be better valued elsewhere.

If he does have to move, it could be a good chance for a more mature start over. It is often difficult when children get into patterns in Y7 that follow them up. I hope he gets what he needs and “breaks a leg” in his performances!

Jasmine222 · 03/03/2026 19:56

Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:53

Yes. He's switching on the misogyny, rudeness and disrespect.
It's a choice.

Maybe because his parents are clearly not listening to him regarding the fact that he wants and desperately needs to go to a different school, so the only option he's left with is getting kicked out. I changed schools voluntarily aged 15 and thrived, went on to University etc. I can't imagine what would have become of me if my parents had forced me to stay in a school I hated just because my Dad/brothers/Uncle Steve went there. FFS. It makes me really angry.

Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:58

Jasmine222 · 03/03/2026 19:56

Maybe because his parents are clearly not listening to him regarding the fact that he wants and desperately needs to go to a different school, so the only option he's left with is getting kicked out. I changed schools voluntarily aged 15 and thrived, went on to University etc. I can't imagine what would have become of me if my parents had forced me to stay in a school I hated just because my Dad/brothers/Uncle Steve went there. FFS. It makes me really angry.

I agree. The parents need to take him out of the school and find an alternative.

Cardomomle · 03/03/2026 19:58

Motherofacertainage · 03/03/2026 19:55

I cannot understand how a private school is saying they are unable to approve this? Any state secondary I know would put it down as “education off site “ and private schools don’t have the same ofsted pressures for attendance. It would definitely be worth testing this stance. Are the school claiming they have never previously given a student time off for performing in a play - or sporting fixture?! It’s frankly unbelievable that this will be the case.

I think they want rid.