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School refusing 3 days off for DS AIBU

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BaronPencil · 03/03/2026 18:07

I suspect I am going to get flamed for this but I genuinely do not know what the right call is.

DS is 14, 15 in the summer, and he hates school. Not in a mild way, he actively resents it. Says it is pointless, says most of the boys mess about anyway but he gets picked up more because he answers back. There is probably some truth in that but he absolutely does not help himself.

He is basically on his last warning behaviour wise. We have had meetings with head of year and deputy head. They have used phrases like final chance, serious concerns about attitude, risk of not being invited back next year if there is no improvement. So yes, thin ice is putting it mildly.

Behaviour issues include:

Constant low level disruption
Talking when teacher is talking
Refusing to move seats when asked
Eye rolling and muttering under his breath
Not handing homework in repeatedly
Detentions for not turning up to detentions
Once told a teacher “this is why no one takes this subject seriously”

There was also an incident last year where he made some stupid misogynistic comments in class about girls being “too emotional” for leadership which got him into a huge amount of trouble. He swears he was joking but it was not funny and I was absolutely furious with him. School took it very seriously. Since then they have him firmly labelled as a problem child I think.

He is not SEN. There is no diagnosis, no learning issue. He just does not like being told what to do and he is not a straight A academic star which I sometimes think is what this particular school really values above everything else. He is capable of good grades but only when he feels like it which is not often.

The only area where he has ever been consistently positive is drama.

He got into acting at 12 through the school drama club. Completely by accident really, a friend dragged him along. He got a part in the school production and something just switched. Teachers were emailing saying how focused he was in rehearsals, how supportive of other cast members. It was like reading about someone else.

We then enrolled him in a local theatre group and he loves it. Properly loves it. He will practise accents in his bedroom, watch performances online, ask for feedback. It is the only thing he puts real effort into without being nagged.

Now he has been cast in a proper local theatre production. Rehearsals are evenings and weekends so that has not interfered with school at all.

But the performances include three weekday matinees in the last week before Easter holidays. So he would miss three full days right before they break up.

His attendance is currently 95 percent. But he is absolutely on his last warning behaviour wise.

I emailed school explaining the opportunity and asking if the absence could be authorised given it is a legitimate production and not just a random day off. I did mention that drama is the only area where he truly excels and that this could be positive for him.

Reply was very clear. No authorised absence for external activities. Policy is policy. If we keep him off it will be recorded as unauthorised absence and may be considered alongside his existing behaviour record.

I did ask whether there was any discretion given it is the last week before holidays and most of the academic content is winding down (yes I know that sounds dismissive). They said learning continues until the final day and expectations apply to all pupils equally.

DS’s view is blunt. He says acting is the only thing he is actually good at and the only reason he bothers trying at anything. He says if we make him miss it we are proving that school matters more to us than he does. He also says school already think he is a lost cause so what difference will three days make.

Part of me thinks he has not exactly earned special favours given his attitude. If anything he should be bending over backwards to show compliance right now not asking for time off. I can already hear people saying natural consequences and maybe that is fair.

But another part of me thinks if the one thing that genuinely motivates him is acting then why would we squash that, especially when school itself introduced him to it in the first place.

We pay a lot for this school because we wanted structure and high standards. I just did not anticipate feeling like the only area my son shines would be treated as irrelevant.

So AIBU to think they could show flexibility even though he is on his last warning and hardly model pupil of the year? Or is this exactly the kind of situation where the answer has to be no because of his behaviour record.

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DryadsRest · 03/03/2026 21:15

what is the purpose of his education, because if he is not learning in his current school environment then what’s the point of him being in it?

he sounds independent minded and capable of working hard at what he enjoys and sees the value in - those are better life skills to encourage than being unhappy

the theatre production can be cited in any university application and job CV

the private school sounds like they’re actively trying to manage or discipline him out

how will you feel if you prevent him from doing the production then he’s expelled in a couple of months time

private schools can be guilty of getting rid of awkward pupils because obviously they want the rest of the fee paying class to attend without potentially disruptive classmates.

Your sons welfare might not be high on the list of concerns in comparison to keeping all the other fee paying pupils in his class happy

ChapmanFarm · 03/03/2026 21:15

You are in a tricky position.

I feel he should do the play. It's good for him to genuinely work at something and if he kicks back against you then you are potentially opening up much greater trouble. Self esteem plays a big role in this type of behaviour, especially as you've said he can't live up to his brothers a academically. It's the kind of boost that transforms lives.

But the risk of being removed mid GCSE year is very problematic.

Could you ask for a meeting with school? Perhaps face to face you might get further. Are there no sporting equivalents they've allowed time off for?

And your son needs to bring something to the table. Can he go in the mornings? Will he do additional work or catching up over the holidays? Is he prepared to really buck up for the final term to avoid them wanting to remove him?

If you are going into bat for him, he needs to understand that he must try harder to avoid being without a school in the year that really matters - and presumably separated from all his friends.

BaronPencil · 03/03/2026 21:17

DH is supportive of him doing the production but he also thinks DSneeds to ‘live in the real world’ and have a backup plan and I don't know if he will be as supportive when he realises that he is unlikely to go to university. He already thinks sending him to a state school is “embarrasing” and means “we've failed” but I don't know what the other option would be if he is removed because as a poster said he's unlikely to be accepted by another private school. And also what a poster said about a performing arts school - he has to do core subjects still and it will likely be the same story. He did okay in his mocks and got 4s but that is still low for the school who pride themselves on 8 and 9s but they did say they know ds is capable

I was hoping school would've changed their mind but they haven't and the production is looming, if anything since their initial no ds has got worse because “what's the point” (his words). He said again today before my post that he hates school and he can't wait to go to college and just focus on Performing Arts and not the other “pointless subjects” (his words again)

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SheilaFentiman · 03/03/2026 21:19

Your DH needs to stop bandying about words like “embarrassing” because his snobbishness is not bloody helping.

DryadsRest · 03/03/2026 21:20

Your son could pay what seems an outsized cost for his dads embarrassment

DryadsRest · 03/03/2026 21:21

There are always options even private tutoring it would only be for a year before college

SheilaFentiman · 03/03/2026 21:22

I do think doing core subjects at a performing arts school where staff and students are largely focussed on the PA part and isn’t grumpy with pupils not getting 8s and 9s would be a different kettle of fish for him than his current very academic school.

Reverb · 03/03/2026 21:22

This is such an interesting AIBU OP. I genuinely don't know what I feel about it.

I think, on balance, I would support him doing the drama - he obviously has a passion and that is worth such a lot in life. To deny it and to continue in this untenable situation just to have dominion over him and 'make' him behave seems counterproductive.

But his attitude stinks - I think another pp said make the drama conditional that between now and then he is a model pupil or he doesn't go. Then the ball's in his court, he decides then to buck up or forfeit it himself. He can blame no one else. And perhaps he'll learn (one can hope) that he's not the centre of the universe and behaving with grace and courtesy isn't, in fact, beyond him.

DryadsRest · 03/03/2026 21:23

If he’s worked hard for the theatre production why does he need to be punished for school being so unreasonable?

Bowies · 03/03/2026 21:23

The school seems very poor at ‘pastoral care’. He might thrive in a new environment. I would investigate other school options.

The theatre opportunity seems like it will be good for him.

SheilaFentiman · 03/03/2026 21:24

If you were hoping school would change their mind - what gave you that hope, did they set any conditions on behaviour/homework etc?

Calliopespa · 03/03/2026 21:25

DryadsRest · 03/03/2026 21:21

There are always options even private tutoring it would only be for a year before college

Agree.

This is what I think.

Make a deal with him: he works hard at sufficient grades in private tutoring, he gets to do the drama (and more drama), gets to avoid the school that isn't working for him BUT his part is to commit to homeschool/private tutoring effort. he is going nowhere at a school targeting 8 or 9. It's the wrong environment. Tell DH to forget what the other parents etc think.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 03/03/2026 21:27

You have a massive DH problem which is exacerbating your DS problem

DryadsRest · 03/03/2026 21:28

my Suspicion is the school is hoping you’ll pull your son out and that is a factor in their attitude towards you

narcASD · 03/03/2026 21:29

If my child acted like that it would be a no!
to be paying for education and have an attitude like that I think is pretty shocking. He sounds like a spoilt brat from the way you've described him.

I am usually on the parents side when it comes to issues like this but I'm team school on this one.

Knittedanimal · 03/03/2026 21:33

Drama school? Not sure if the timing is right, but if you have the resources that might be the best bet.

Manxexile · 03/03/2026 21:34

Starfish1021 · 03/03/2026 18:13

So he is at a private school? What are the alternatives if he is asked to leave? I mean his attitude stinks and one of the most highly valued things about private school is the lack of pupil disruptions so I wouldn't be surprised if the private school want to boot him out. He does not sound happy and may actually thrive in a state school

Why should state school pupils suffer from his disruption?

Sounds like parenting failure.

WonderingAndOverthinking · 03/03/2026 21:34

Not to be harsh but I’d be more embarrassed about my son’s actual behaviour than him “failing private school”….

GrimpeursDelight · 03/03/2026 21:36

It's not just the subjects at another school but the exam board that you need to watch out for too. Apart from Maths, they all have different curriculums. I wouldn't recommend a move of schools unless unavoidable.

I'd suggest looking ahead at what his plan is for post-16 and work backwards to what he needs to achieve to get there. Possibly ditch some of his GCSE choices and focus on the core subjects.

Honestly, I'd make his participation in auditions reliant on him putting some effort in at school. I certainly wouldn't be ferrying my child to/from performances while he does fuck all at school and gets into trouble. Yes to the hobby but no to the extras.

Haveyouanyjam · 03/03/2026 21:37

Are you confident he doesn’t have ADHD? Not the answer to everything of course but being disruptive to keep himself entertained, happy to focus and be polite for something he’s interested in etc. are traits for sure…

AppropriateAdult · 03/03/2026 21:38

Let him do the show - I think you really need to prioritise the one thing that engages him. If a performing arts school is an option, bribe him with it - you’ll send him there if he keeps up a reasonable standard in the academic subjects and behaves himself.

Hodge00079 · 03/03/2026 21:40

I don’t think the school will authorise the absence. However, I wonder if son behaved well it would be less of an issue. So if between now and Easter none of the behaviour you mentioned occurred. Don’t answer back and keep head down. The ball would be in son’s court.

ShesnoGeordielass · 03/03/2026 21:47

abracabarbara · 03/03/2026 21:01

The school sounds like a terrible fit for your son who is clearly thriving in the acting /theatre environment.

My DH was the same. No interest and behavioural issues at school, left as soon as he could with no qualifications. He later bumped into his English teacher from who was now also working in the theatre industry and she said if only she'd known he was interested then, she'd have encouraged him.

Embrace your son's interest and enthusiasm. not everyone finds something they really love and are passionate about.

And to a pp who mentioned he wont get far in acting because directors and instructions - directors are quite used to difficult actors. It goes with the territory. ( although I note your son is not difficult in the theatre environment anyway)

Edited

Yes BUT the actors have to have the goods to back it up.

No director is gong to pander to an arrogant second rate actor. People talk. And not possible to know at the moment how good the son is, ay the moment he has no experience and no training 💁

Terfedout · 03/03/2026 21:47

Yabu. I do understand your dilemma but surely this feels like rewarding poor behaviour?

Manxexile · 03/03/2026 21:48

"... and I don't know if he will be as supportive when he realises that he is unlikely to go to university. He already thinks sending him to a state school is “embarrasing” and means “we've failed”..."

Your husband doesn't realise his DS almost certainly won't be going to university?

Is he semi-detached from what has been happening?