to want to kill my gf

[theBOD]

she was meant to be home after work so we could go out for dinner but apparently got rail roaded into dinner (yeah right) with her boss and couldn't say no.
i really feel like putting my fist through her face as soon as she walks through the door pissed out of her mind to make sure she never does it again.

Oh, thank heavens for those great big strong men Flashman and theBod for showing all us ignorant girlies the error of our ways... imagine, how silly of us poor frilly ladies to be alarmed at a man threatening to put his fist through someone's face.

If neither of them have the language skills to notice the differences between this OP and the other two threads, then they need remedial English lessons.

DSM - Perhaps I shouldnt have said MN archives. Perhaps you should just read the news and speak to people. I am sorry but the majority of men have nothing to fear from women. (physically speaking at least - emotional abuse is a whole other kettle of fish)

There are men who are abused because they refuse to hit their partner back when she hits them. And that is appalling. But it had nothing to do with the misogynistic OP.

Sad thing is, ff, I'm sure both of them enjoyed giving victims of domestic violence a virtual slap in the face. Because they are such strong, tough, clever men, obviously.

"Most men do not live in fear of being beaten up by women"

In my opinion, most women do not live in fear of being beaten up by men! Not all men are violent, in fact, most aren't so I think that sweeping statement is wholly untrue.

EB - I generally am speechless - my amusement was more the way he worded to get a reaction and so many bit - if you find it offensive - don't reply - ignore it - it will soon be gone. And I am not defending the Bod - i am sure he is laughin - he was caused a storm and fucked off.

I know (and have read) of women that treat their partner/husband like shit, all in 'good humour' as they know their man would never ever retaliate, it is still a form of abuse

I have no fear of men (even though I have been through one of the worst experiences that a man can put a woman through) I have no hatred of men either (just the one man)

If we are equal (as all women want) then do not treat our men like a child, and do not 'slap' them without expecting a slap back or humiliate them without expecting a little back

Try not to take what I am saying and make it say something else. I never said most women live in fear of being beaten up. I am making the point that most men feel physically confident in their strength - and wouldnt for one second seriously consider that their wives/partners etc would beat them into submission. I happen to be lucky in that I know a lot of very good men. You dont need to defend men to me you need to defend STUPID men to me. As you would stupid women were it relevant.

I agree eeny - however I also think that the majority of women have nothing to fear from men.

There are men who are victims of domestic violence - and not just because they don't 'hit back'. Some men beat women. Some women beat men. Neither should be joked about, really, and to that end, theBOT has a good point.

edam -have you read all the thread or just part and joined in?

"Its completely unfair to say that ' a woman saying she wants to strangle a man with a towel is an expression of anger and a man saying he wants to put his fist through a woman's face is domestic violence. Where is the equality in that?"

You have misquoted me. Either deliberately to make a point, or because you are not paying attention. I said MIGHT BE DV. Very important difference.

And no there is no equality in it. Just like there's no equality between the number of men who kill their female partners and the number of women who kill their male ones. Pesky murderers haven't understood the principles of Equal Opportunities.

This OP could have easily read...

DH was meant to be home straight after work but got railroaded to the pub by his boss - yeah right!! It's ten past eleven and he still isn't home. Maybe when he rolls in pissed I should kick his arse down the stairs to the sofa?

The language is a bit nicer but the sentiment the same and had that been the OP I am sure a lot of - "Oh what a tosser" responses would have swiftly followed along with a "Leave the kids with him tomorrow night and give him a taste of his own medicine". This site has massive double standards on things like this!

theBOD appears to have left the thread

Ohly read the OP

You sound incredibly unattractive. And violent too. I hope your girlfriend leaves you for her own safety and finds someone better. I'm guessing it wouldn't be difficult.

edam is making the best points.

we can all pick examples from the history books of men submitting to a woman's wrath... but that is kind of pointless. The point is that male violence is a raging beast that prowls around our world. The same cannot be said in relation to women.

I feel slightly sickened that this thread is still going and would quite like it to be removed. The OP was ridiculous and us still discussing it in this way gives it validity. It is obviously nonsense as it does not address any real point. The real point is not to joke about real violence. If I say to my friend "I am going to kill you" they do not expect to be walking through the pearly gates any time soon. It is an expression not a threat.

LittleBella - you said (I shall cut and paste so as to not make a mistake, though the point is the same):

But a woman saying she wants to strangle a man with a towel, is not DV. It's an expression of anger. A man saying he wants to put his fist through a woman's face, might be DV.

Surely, both 'might' be domestic violence? Why do you only consider the male threat to be so, and the womens to merely be an 'expression of anger'?

I agree with missingmyheels. Punch through the face sounds disgusting off a man, but it does when a woman suggests such things. it's basic respect thats missing, off both parties.

Why does it need to be an equivalent level to be taken seriously though?

Are you for real?

DSM I said this in an earlier post

"I never said most women live in fear of being beaten up. I am making the point that most men feel physically confident in their strength - and wouldnt for one second seriously consider that their wives/partners etc would beat them into submission. I happen to be lucky in that I know a lot of very good men. You dont need to defend men to me you need to defend STUPID men to me. As you would stupid women were it relevant."

FWIW DSM my beef is not with you. It is with the OP. Plain and simple.

and to say that it is offensive to victims of abuse is ludicrous, my healing has and will come from within. If i was answering this post saying,,,,,,, how dare you i have been hit, then i would be making it personal and blaming the op for things that were absolutely nothing to do with him.

I have no idea what the op is all about, none of you do, i do know if i was upset though i would need help.

Hedgewitch, because women who strangle men make the front page.

I've already said this.

I don't actually approve of or like those threads which express sentiments like this, I tend not to click onto them. But I am not going to mistake them for expressions of intent.

BTW I didn't assume the OP was serious, I knew immediately he was making a spurious point.